It's just the Muslims dude. All the idiots angry over the stupid movie. Don't group the masses of the intolerant with us.Grenge Di Origin said:
So... Uh... What the hell, Australia?!?!
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Who cares, it's true!CommanderL said:
Actually i was equally confused by OP's post, they are aware that Australia is multicultural country, or at least we try to be, and when one group of that multicultural group protests, it must mean we're the same to him/her...
I blame Muslim's for being too touchy about certain issues, and American's for their general lack of knowledge about the rest of the world, of course I'm pointing at a very select group...
As I understand it, it was a badly organised protest with no central leadership, which meant there was nobody to ensure teh usual troublemakers got reigned in, and nobody for the police to deal with.Grenge Di Origin said:
So, you get people saying that they don't want violence and all that...except they are saying it to the media because they weren't organised enough to say it to everyone else.
Always, always organise your protests, and make it very damn clear there's to be no violence, or it becomes very easy for a few individuals to turn it into a riot.
That was very badly phrased.CpT_x_Killsteal said:
Australia has quite a large Muslim population. A large majority of that population get along well with everyone else. But a vocal minority within that group causes a lot of chaos and generally weakens relations between locals and those groups.
Take the Cronulla Riots, they occured in retaliation to a situation where a muslim womans headscarf being removed to properly assess if she needed CPR by lifeguards and 4 muslim men attacking them for infringing their beliefs. This led to a lot of back and forward attacks organised via text message. The actual riots were initially intended as a peaceful protest to support the lifeguards who are there to save peoples lives, however a minority of those people were drunken yobbos and when a group of muslim men began abusing them on the beach, the drunks from the crowd retaliated and beat them senseless. However more innocent people got caught up in the violence that time because of the large scale of people providing cover for the jerks who used it as an excuse to be racist and bash any ethnic minority. A lot of the people beaten were actually Indian.
But the large part of the problem is the amount of segregation of the Muslim community from those around it. The Lakemba Mosque is a heavily guarded fortress where a lot of Muslim people congregate. If you even hang around it's perimeter and aren't middle eastern looking you will either be bashed or pushed onto the road. It's very dangerous.
That community is also very Anti-Turkish and Anti-Croatian, and will go out of their way to make people from those communities feel unwanted.
There is also a big thing about never touching Muslim women. I was at the local shops (Bankstown) and a Muslim woman fell down the escalators. People were just standing around watching her as the stairs kept hitting her as she struggled to get up. I just reacted and grabbed her arm and helped to lift her up, as did a teenage Chinese girl nearby. We helped the woman to a nearby bench where she freaked out that we'd even touched her to help her up and began crying. I was beaten over the head and had to run off, the girl also ran off upon seeing this. I could pretend that it'd been such a bad experience that I'd leave someone in that situation again... but I'd still go help them regardless.
Oh and there is a very strict no interracial relationships within that community. If you talk in a suggestive manner to one of "their" women, you'll likely have your tyres slashed if not worse.
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The Muslim community as a whole keeps itself segregated from the larger Australian community. The violent minorities within that group are a major problem to everyone and make it hard to even be friends with people from those communities. If you don't want to get beaten up, don't touch their women.
Take the Cronulla Riots, they occured in retaliation to a situation where a muslim womans headscarf being removed to properly assess if she needed CPR by lifeguards and 4 muslim men attacking them for infringing their beliefs. This led to a lot of back and forward attacks organised via text message. The actual riots were initially intended as a peaceful protest to support the lifeguards who are there to save peoples lives, however a minority of those people were drunken yobbos and when a group of muslim men began abusing them on the beach, the drunks from the crowd retaliated and beat them senseless. However more innocent people got caught up in the violence that time because of the large scale of people providing cover for the jerks who used it as an excuse to be racist and bash any ethnic minority. A lot of the people beaten were actually Indian.
But the large part of the problem is the amount of segregation of the Muslim community from those around it. The Lakemba Mosque is a heavily guarded fortress where a lot of Muslim people congregate. If you even hang around it's perimeter and aren't middle eastern looking you will either be bashed or pushed onto the road. It's very dangerous.
That community is also very Anti-Turkish and Anti-Croatian, and will go out of their way to make people from those communities feel unwanted.
There is also a big thing about never touching Muslim women. I was at the local shops (Bankstown) and a Muslim woman fell down the escalators. People were just standing around watching her as the stairs kept hitting her as she struggled to get up. I just reacted and grabbed her arm and helped to lift her up, as did a teenage Chinese girl nearby. We helped the woman to a nearby bench where she freaked out that we'd even touched her to help her up and began crying. I was beaten over the head and had to run off, the girl also ran off upon seeing this. I could pretend that it'd been such a bad experience that I'd leave someone in that situation again... but I'd still go help them regardless.
Oh and there is a very strict no interracial relationships within that community. If you talk in a suggestive manner to one of "their" women, you'll likely have your tyres slashed if not worse.
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RThe Muslim community as a whole keeps itself segregated from the larger Australian community. The violent minorities within that group are a major problem to everyone and make it hard to even be friends with people from those communities. If you don't want to get beaten up, don't touch their women.
They're.SaneAmongInsane said:
I'm surprised. With how much Australians hate Muslims, you'd think they'd be too busy infighting down under.
Muslims make up about 2% of the Australian population, of that 2% 0.00083% gathered in public places to make complete and utter dicks of themselves as part of a staged world wide protest.SaneAmongInsane said:
It was because of an American film targeting the Islamic population throughout the world.... I think... That's what the news was going on about at the time...
So, yeah... because of a mis-informed mockumentary (I think) the muslims/islamic (one of those, or something like them) population got angry... because they're a touchy bunch who can't learn to live in a country that doesn't follow their views like a tunnel-vision mouse in a maze full of cheese....
So what if I sound a little bit racist... But, seriously, they come out to live in Australia (predominantly catholic/aboriginal populace) then force their beliefs on the local community, then expect to have the same rights as everyone else....
wow that sounds bad...
but, it is! it's hopeless!?!
Edit 1: I don't mean any hate by this post, I'm just speaking from my point of view from what I've seen/heard over the years.... I give everyone a chance to be friendly at any given opportunity, but rioting throughout the city causing chaos is NOT acceptable, no matter who you are...
So, yeah... because of a mis-informed mockumentary (I think) the muslims/islamic (one of those, or something like them) population got angry... because they're a touchy bunch who can't learn to live in a country that doesn't follow their views like a tunnel-vision mouse in a maze full of cheese....
So what if I sound a little bit racist... But, seriously, they come out to live in Australia (predominantly catholic/aboriginal populace) then force their beliefs on the local community, then expect to have the same rights as everyone else....
wow that sounds bad...
but, it is! it's hopeless!?!
Edit 1: I don't mean any hate by this post, I'm just speaking from my point of view from what I've seen/heard over the years.... I give everyone a chance to be friendly at any given opportunity, but rioting throughout the city causing chaos is NOT acceptable, no matter who you are...
As probably said
Started out with a few people doing the right thing, protesting innocently,
Hijacked by a couple of douchebags with offensive signs, behead signs wanting to riot. The majority of the guys who were here in the first place were peaceful, however cockheads will always hijack events like this, No matter what religion/background/issue it is, remember the g20 riots where you would have about 8% of the total people start throwing rocks ect. and the police would just punish everyone and all hell would break loose? Well luckily that didnt happen however it was looking a bit iffy for a moment
You had a weird situation where the protest group was actually getting pretty agro with eachother, one side was guys trying to push around police and storm the US embassy, the other were kinda dismayed and telling the other group to stop it.
Started out with a few people doing the right thing, protesting innocently,
Hijacked by a couple of douchebags with offensive signs, behead signs wanting to riot. The majority of the guys who were here in the first place were peaceful, however cockheads will always hijack events like this, No matter what religion/background/issue it is, remember the g20 riots where you would have about 8% of the total people start throwing rocks ect. and the police would just punish everyone and all hell would break loose? Well luckily that didnt happen however it was looking a bit iffy for a moment
You had a weird situation where the protest group was actually getting pretty agro with eachother, one side was guys trying to push around police and storm the US embassy, the other were kinda dismayed and telling the other group to stop it.
The fact that they are protesting in the streets shows that they are not intelligent enough to speak on for the whole country.
Wait...Wait... Wait, wait. Did you just say CREDIBLE and FOX NEWS in the same sentence, and it wasn't sarcastic? I am going to leave this thread before anything shitty happens. In fact, I am logging off the internet now...pro_family_lover said:
This is why people think so many of you are arrogant on top of the rest, when someone dislikes something America or an Amerian does, silly people presume that means they hate America, which then just adds to the misconception that Americans don't get it. No-one hates you, they don't give one flying shit about you. Fortunately most of you see that, so we only have to deal with this concentrated stupid infrequently.
This is one group-Muslims, in a country, Australia, which is predominantly SECULAR, and is far more Agnostic/Atheist or Protestant Christian than Muslim. So you've just assumed a minority religious group represents the majority of a geopolitical group. Good work.
Moreover, protesting an action is not the same as hating you. I can dislike an American action without hating America. I can dislike an Australian one without hating America. What you're doing is conflating the issues with the participants, and logic like that leads to fallacious logic along the lines of "Playing the race card".
If I dislike America's foreign policy "Uh, why do you hate 'merica!"
If I dislike America's political concerns "Uh, why do you hate 'merica!"
I LIKE America. It's the home of pretty much every one of my favourite bands, it's got an interesting history, including being one of the first officially secular nations. Just disagreeing on one point is not hating it.
I'm an Australian, and I hadn't even heard of this protest until now, but it's about that movie thing, right?
That's one American, acting like a jackass, to people he knows will react with violence, and then those people treating all Americans as culpable. IT'S THE SAME BAD LOGIC-CONFLATING INDIVIDUALS AND ACTIONS WITH GROUPS.
This is one group-Muslims, in a country, Australia, which is predominantly SECULAR, and is far more Agnostic/Atheist or Protestant Christian than Muslim. So you've just assumed a minority religious group represents the majority of a geopolitical group. Good work.
Moreover, protesting an action is not the same as hating you. I can dislike an American action without hating America. I can dislike an Australian one without hating America. What you're doing is conflating the issues with the participants, and logic like that leads to fallacious logic along the lines of "Playing the race card".
If I dislike America's foreign policy "Uh, why do you hate 'merica!"
If I dislike America's political concerns "Uh, why do you hate 'merica!"
I LIKE America. It's the home of pretty much every one of my favourite bands, it's got an interesting history, including being one of the first officially secular nations. Just disagreeing on one point is not hating it.
I'm an Australian, and I hadn't even heard of this protest until now, but it's about that movie thing, right?
That's one American, acting like a jackass, to people he knows will react with violence, and then those people treating all Americans as culpable. IT'S THE SAME BAD LOGIC-CONFLATING INDIVIDUALS AND ACTIONS WITH GROUPS.
About 25% of the Australian populace is Catholic, less than 1% follows an Aboriginal religion.not_you said:
And yes, you do sound rather racist.
Lets be clear. Not a single Australian was involved in this deplorable riot. It was the cancerous rot that has worked it's way into our country like a virus. They in no way represent the views of Australians and I'm sure most would agree with me that all involved should be shipped off the one of the third world middle eastern shit holes they seem to like so much.
Not the same situation at all. The things americans get stick for are generally the beliefs of a large number of your people (as in close to or more than 50%) or the actions of your elected officials. You know, the people who were voted for by a majority of their constituents.Chunga the Great said:
This is a few hundred people in a country of 22 million.