So what is Camping?

[saejox]

i strongly advise bad company 2 if you hate camping that much. spotting and destructible cover makes camping a tough art to perform.

other than that, i see camping as a legitimate tactic. finding a busy point and hunting unsuspecting foes like a predator is fun.

if camper does not relocate and kills you again, thats means you are dumb. dont *****.

 

[evilninja60]

camping is a legit stratigey and the people who get piss and start calling you a camper are just mad that you killed them

 

[Davey Woo]

Camping to me is staying in one place in a game, for far longer than is necessary.
To me there are two types of camping, bad and tolerable.
Bad camping is staying in a point where there is only one entrance to the area (for example a cave), and they watch that entrance and kill anything that attempts to get in.
Tolerable camping is staying in one area, either an exposed area or an area that has a good view over many areas of the battlefield, (for example a watchtower)

I also don't mind "camping" when you need to defend a point.

 

[SnootyEnglishman]

Standard camping while annoying can be broken with enough patience. It's the players that Spawn camp (the ones stand purposely find the places where opponents spawn and stay there in wait killing you everytime you come back into the game) that gets on my tits.

 

[DrunkWithPower]

Camping: To sit in a single spot until you die. Usually wielding a weapon that results in one or a low amount of shots to achieve a kill.

To me, it's good in a situation. If you're losing a battle, that worse members of a team "camp" back and let the better players attempt to win. Or, if it's a rush heavy enemy, force them to run into the brick wall. But if you're winning, the other team is scattered, there is usually no reason to do it.... besides to be a pain in the rump.

 

[silver wolf009]

Camping is intentionally staying in one place with one or two entrances you watch at the same time. its considered bad because its not fair to the people trying to flush you out.

 

[KaiRai]

I believe camping is the process of erectin a tent w/ portable everyday items in a woodland area, or similar non-urban environment.

I joke, I joke...

It is a fairly cheap tactic. Although I think it depends. If you camp an area then I don't suppose it's too bad. Like say, MW2 underpass, when you run back and forth between where A and B are on domination, because it involves movement, and you have cover and can be sneaky. It's tactical. However, waiting at a door entrance is *****-like and generally means you're too lazy to actually play the game and just want points. I've also noticed it's campers that scream down mic's the most about "bullshit" when someone they've killed 4 times kills them. Also, just for the record, camping at say, flag A. Well that's not camping. I don't want you to steal the flag, so I kill you when you try to. Simple.

[small]Also, a little off topic, but on hardcore mode, the RPD goes through ANYTHING, and I mean ANYTHING. Concrete, steel, aeroplanes, the lot.[/small]

 

[MortisLegio]

I see there are at least 3 kinds of camping

1. Camping do to circumstance - getting trapped in a room by the enemy, completly fair do to the fact that if I come out Im going to die

2. Camping in defence - protecting a highly contested position, depends on the situation and should only be used in game types such as Domination, Sabotage, Demolition, ect.

3. Camping to get kill - sitting in one spot just to get kills to either win the game or get your killstreaks, its unfair to those who are actually trying to play the game (enemy and teammates)

 

[chaos order]

i think people who actually have a problem with snipers who "camp" is because how u feel when u actually get sniped for me its one of the worst ways to get killed cause im simply walking around and BAM dead, no chance no opportunity to defend, and that what makes pl hate snipers and campers theres almost no way to catch em if u didnt know they were there in the first place. Im not saying that sniping shouldnt be in games its fully a legit strategy its just that it drives me nuts when i havent even done anything yet and POW DEAD, no shut up ur DEAD deal with it.

 

[Zannah]

So if we conclude the previous statements, many people regard camping not being fair play.

The question that comes to my mind - why would any one want to play fair? We're in War, so anything goes - your average fps isn't a game Fighting Game, where finesse matters, but a game where *winning* matters. Laying ambushes, defending chokepoints - thats decreasing the enemies chances to score - but so does running around with a gun instead of just knifing, because you want to give your oponent a bigger chance. Why, of course staying within the rules (so no glitches, spawnkills, hacks) should anyone in a blody warzone be bound by the rules of gentlemanly fairplay, only walking, only fighting enemies up front, taking turns in shooting?

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Traditionally (i.e. when the phrase was coined) it referred to a practice of collecting a powerful weapon and hinding in a room with health and only one entrance. This worked primarily because early FPS games did not balance weapons with multi-player in mind and few even shipped with maps created for the purpose of adversarial play. In Quake (when I first heard the term) it generally referred to a person who collected a rocket launcher and sat around in a side room blasting people who came through. Considering it only took two rockets (at best) to kill somebody it made them fantastically hard to dig out.

These days, camping as it was traditionally known does not really exist. Better maps were the primary thing that did away with it, along with weapon balances for multiplayer. Thus, the meaning of the term has shifted but it is often misused.

In modern online games, a camper is a person who maintains a more or less static position in a location incredibly hard to attack. More specifically, this person must occupy space that need not reasonbly be held to complete game objectives. Since many modern games are objective based, it often comes down to the objectives themselves in making a determination of camping.

Snipers are the most common culprit, because by their very nature in most games they simply serve to harras the enemy while rarely furthering the teams goals. In a game where killcount alone is the deciding factor, camping is all but impossible to accomplish.

The most common misusage is confusing a defender with a camper. Objective based games require someone to defend an objective once it is siezed, and if one directs themselves to doing such even if entirely static in a difficult to assail position they do not qualify as camper but rather defender.

The distinction may seem a bit strage but it boils down to purpose and intention. The purpose of a camper is to grief, other concerns are secondary. The purpose of a defender is to maintain control of an objective - that grief may arise from a staunch defense is unintentional.

 

[scotth266]

Kumbaya my lord, kumba--fucking snipers.

Camping is a legitimate strategy when done properly. Sniping? Not camping. Defending an objective? Not camping. To me there are two kinds of camping, and both are wrong: spawn camping, and choke point camping. You know the ones, sitting at the end of the only tunnel through somewhere with a sniper rifle. Those guys suck.

But otherwise, it's no different from rushing or slow and steady.

Agreed. The Great Book Of Gaming lists only two rules about what is camping:

1) Thou shalt not sit in thine enemy's spawn to farm kills, lest thou be subjected to The Great Boot Of Kicking, and
2) Thou shalt not sit in a choke-point, doing nothing but waiting for thine enemy to show up, for this is an offense against thy team. By sitting in one spot, thou hast become a burden to thine team, rather than an asset: and as such, thou is also worthy of the Boot's attention.

A perfect example of this is the TF2 map, 2Fort. Anyone who has played it for more than a day shall emerge with terrible tales of snipers being dead weight to their team, under the pretense of attacking the enemy snipers.

 

[Lt. Dragunov]

Well if you absolutaly have to defend yourself because your in a jam then no thats not camping.

If you are a sniper and your hiding in the grass taking out targets, yes thats camping but a different kind a more acceptable kind.

IF your playing a match where you have to defend a target then yes LIGHT camping is ok.

But if your playing in any regular old match and you run to a heavely populated area and just sit in a cornor with oh i dont know say a fucking shootgun, then no that is NOT acceptable.

 

[Lt. Dragunov]

i think people who actually have a problem with snipers who "camp" is because how u feel when u actually get sniped for me its one of the worst ways to get killed cause im simply walking around and BAM dead, no chance no opportunity to defend, and that what makes pl hate snipers and campers theres almost no way to catch em if u didnt know they were there in the first place. Im not saying that sniping shouldnt be in games its fully a legit strategy its just that it drives me nuts when i havent even done anything yet and POW DEAD, no shut up ur DEAD deal with it.

I know what you mean, being a sniper myself i get alot of hate messages about how im a camper, but snipe camping is alot different than noob camping. Also snipeing has been dumbed down in games like MW2 thanks to the all so handy and all so stupid killcam that completely reviels the sniper's location and most likely thier next target or next spot to snipe. A trade off i guess.

 

[Paksenarrion]

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snip If they made it much more realistic it would be unplayable by the demographic they're pitching it to. That was my point. Its supposed to be "real combat!" ......[small]for 12 year olds[/small].

To make it playable for 7 year olds, you'll need a Battle Room, flash suits, and randomly placed stars.

Remember, the Enemy's Gate is down.

 

[scotth266]

A perfect example of this is the TF2 map, 2Fort. Anyone who has played it for more than a day shall emerge with terrible tales of snipers being dead weight to their team, under the pretense of attacking the enemy snipers.

You mean the snipers sniping the snipers sniping the snipers sniping the snipers utterly oblivious to the spy standing right behind them.

That map is like ping pong with bullets.

I believe you may find this article of interest. [http://www.ubercharged.net/2007/12/04/players-you-dont-want-on-your-team-fortress-2-team-weighted-companion-sniper/]

 

[Anthony Johnson]

Camping is bad(from enemy's perspective), but can be a formidible strategy tactic if put in the right position at the right time.

If the point of the game is to "rack up kills", I see no problem with trying anything and everything to do so.

Camping is normal.

 

[Eggsnham]

Camping in an FPS is the practice of being a mega-monster-douche who can't get kills, so he/she/it stays in the same spot for a long time waiting to pick out those who have strayed too far from the pack. Camping is acceptable only for snipers.

There are worse crimes, though. I have an entire hierarchy which I will post here.. Because I'm bored.

The absolute worst is glitchers/hackers. I didn't even include them on list. I instead expressed my deep hatred for them in any online FPS and I have a 'special treatment' for the first hacker/glitcher I meet in real life.

1. Using only the noob tube to gain kills.

2. Camping when not a sniper.

3. (For recent CoD games) Using Commando Pro, Marathon Pro, and Lightweight Pro with a 'Tac-knife' and running around using only said Tac-knife to gain kills.

4. Pre patch Model 1887's with Bling, Akimbo and FMJ (though this is now obsolete.. Except for the fact that they're still fucking cheap)

5. Care Package Glitchers. They're technically glitchers and don't belong on this list and instead in my torture chambe- I mean.. Nevermind. But they've become such a big part of CoD gameplay (I guess this list has turned into a CoD based list, imagine that) that even after nine patches, it still isn't fixed. I sometimes wonder if the devs put it in as a feature and not as a missed glitch (among many).

Also, these are in no particular order, I hate them all the same.

 

[SLy AsymMetrY]

I thought camping was waiting around a spawn point and just shooting a player when they've got no chance to shoot back.

 

[Triforceformer]

Camping is what I do every month with my Boy Scout troop. We do all sorts of shit. We set up our fire, we shoot guns, we even go sniping sometimes! Never was able to catch one of the bastards though.