Sony Admits External Forces Brought Down PSN

[Actual]

Sounds like Sony looking for an excuse for a hardware failure. Server farms and pipelines go down, it happens. No company wants to admit that it happens to them and Sony has the convenient recent trouble with "external influences" to pin it on.

I mean all we can definitely say is that it's not an ion cannon DDOS which is Anon's weapon of choice. As a DDOS doesn't bring a network down like this, it goes in fits and starts and it only affect the server it's targeted at, not all of them.

 

[bob1052]

Didn't Anon say they weren't going to DDOS attack PSN but instead they were going to try and get personal info about Sony higher ups.

From what Sony is saying it sounds like someone "external" got into their system so they figured the best way to stop it is to unplug PSN.

I don't think Anon crashed PSN but I think its very possible they are involved.

 

[Baneat]

Lol. I find it hilarious on that same weekend, Microsoft had a free Gold Weekend going on with several events.

Either way..Lol?

I find it hilarious that Gold being free is considered to be good of them. So how d'you like them apples?

I find it hilarious that Microsoft offers that exactly on the moment PSN is having trouble. I am not saying they done it intentionally but for those with multiple consoles, XBOX360 is the way to get your online fix. Or PC.

I still lament I have to keep paying for shit I don't use. I want a tier-system.

Of course it's not a coincidence, it's a smart business decision to nab customers when they can't access the leading competitive online service at the time.

 

[AceAngel]

Whatever, Sony. You just keep flingin' bullshit, and we'll see how that goes for you.

Lets see how you will like when you tell your children not to do something, and they go ahead behind your back and do it.

 

[Godsfists]

Thing is obvious: it's Skynet -_-

 

[Tom Hill]

Imagine if you bought your kid to work oneday, because hey, it's easter I want time with my family. They are having the time of their life but you tell them to not wander off, they do it anyway, they are only little and they are really enjoying that icecream you bought them, because it's such a hot day.

Then, when you notice they are missing you think where they might be, the room with all the big noise and the lights!

You find icecream all over your computers and a laughing child.

Blame the external intrusion while it's smiling away, pressing all the bright buttons.

 

[Treblaine]

Whatever, Sony. You just keep flingin' bullshit, and we'll see how that goes for you.

It's easy to call people liars without proof.

But it cheapens you.

Well, there's no proof that their story is true, either.

Yes there IS proof, it just obviously they cannot divulge it, I mean no company is that stupid to show their hand on how they figured it out with an ongoing investigation. They also can't claim to be have been attacked by outside entities if they have not, that is a serious offence to claim a crime has taken place when it has not.

Don't be under any illusions, casual slander won't hurt your enemies more than it will cheapen your own word.

 

[ProfessorLayton]

Anonymous is known for having various internal groups with their own motives, so despite denying responsibility, it still could be to blame

No no no, Anonymous doesn't have various internal groups with their own motives. Anonymous is various groups with their own motives. Just because one person claiming to be Anonymous says they had nothing to do with it, doesn't mean that Anonymous had nothing to do with it.

Sure, it's confusing. But that's kinda the point.

Technically, since we don't know who did it, it is anonymous. Which is strange why that "group" is denying it. Hard to explain, but no one, including anonymous, knows exactly who anonymous is.

 

[v3n0mat3]

I am kinda pissed that this happened. I play mostly on my ps3 (online, anyhow), so this is really annoying. I'm more pissed that people are calling out Sony, claiming that they solely blame anonymous. Where in any report have they made such claims? I have yet to see it. I don't know why anyone is attacking them for it. I bet if XBL went down, people would be more sympathetic. But since it's Sony, everyone hates on them, it seems.

 

[AstylahAthrys]

I assumed it was problems due to the earthquakes but it was some external source? That really sucks. I hope it gets fixed soon. And this is from a 360 gamer :|

 

[RA92]

I don't get this. If AnonOps is doing a massive attack on PSN via DDOS, wouldn't there be evidence of organizing from the myriad Anon sites? I doubt they are coordinated enough to to carry out massive attacks in total secrecy.

I'm gonna stick with my theory...

Guys! Don't you get it? Its not Anon!

IT'S VALVE!

I mean, how many PS3 users got Portal 2, couldn't log into PSN, and then went on to activate their PC copy, saw the deals on Steam, and went on an impulse shopping spree?

Somewhere, Gabe is going, "ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US!"

 

[The Bandit]

I am kinda pissed that this happened. I play mostly on my ps3 (online, anyhow), so this is really annoying. I'm more pissed that people are calling out Sony, claiming that they solely blame anonymous. Where in any report have they made such claims? I have yet to see it. I don't know why anyone is attacking them for it. I bet if XBL went down, people would be more sympathetic. But since it's Sony, everyone hates on them, it seems.

I can't even begin to wrap my mind around this statement. You're made because people are blaming Sony because Sony's PSN shut down? Isn't it... you know... like their job to make sure PSN doesn't shut down? Who should be blamed?

 

[Treblaine]

I have to disagree.

Iran is spiteful enough that they might just pull this off.

Why would Iran attack a Japanese company affecting servers as much in Europe and middle east as America?

Iran would attack Xbox Live if any gaming network. Or some thing that fits into their paranoia of Americana and zionism, not PSN. In fact they wouldn't attack a gaming network because I don't think the leadership has any appreciation of video games nor their popularity.

Iran would more likely attack industry or the American establishment. maybe hack a jewish/israeli website.

China also may have the moxie for this but their interest is not trolling but power. They aim to increase governmental control and security, so that means dissidents, protesters and anything to do with tibet being independent will be targeted.

Not PSN.

 

[v3n0mat3]

I am kinda pissed that this happened. I play mostly on my ps3 (online, anyhow), so this is really annoying. I'm more pissed that people are calling out Sony, claiming that they solely blame anonymous. Where in any report have they made such claims? I have yet to see it. I don't know why anyone is attacking them for it. I bet if XBL went down, people would be more sympathetic. But since it's Sony, everyone hates on them, it seems.

I can't even begin to wrap my mind around this statement. You're made because people are blaming Sony because Sony's PSN shut down? Isn't it... you know... like their job to make sure PSN doesn't shut down? Who should be blamed?

No, I'm mad because people are hating on Sony for claiming that solely Anonymous (rather than other hacker groups) is responsible. And the fact that they say it's an external attack has, too, been called out as bullshit.

*EDIT* Whoever is responsible is the one who should be blamed.

 

[Nargleblarg]

PSN shut down, and the world shut down for an entire day....not really

If anonymous says they didn't do it, they didn't do it we aren't stupid Sony

 

[smithy1234]

So it's either one of two possible scenarios:


An outside group managed to bring down their ENTIRE network in which case their security team must be utter shit for them to allow their whole network to go down. Meaning I'd be extremely concerned that it could then also be possible for an external group to get payment information as their security is obviously not up to par for such a large error to occur.





They have a very serious large internal error which shut down again, THE ENTIRE NETWORK, and this would lead one to conclude that the network set up by their software engineers is extremely flawed and is a very sub-par system.



Either way Sony comes off looking like a fool.

 

[SuperSuperSuperGuy]

Didn't Anonymous say they'd halt attacks because shutting down PSN affects innocent people?

 

[rickynumber24]

I'd say China did it, but only because they're busy knocking over Amazon's cloud. On the other hand, how that would have taken out PSN, well, I have no idea. Probably more like coincidence.

It's really, really tempting to have one big explanation like that... but I really doubt PSN is on Amazon's EC2.

 

[Zeraki]

Has Sony at any point in this stopped and said, "This is Anonymous' fault!".

Because I haven't seen that, yet.

Can we stop this "Sony is looking for a scapegoat in Anon to cover up their own incompetence" shit I've seen in related topics?

Exactly, I would like to know where people here are reading that Sony are directly blaming them. Either some people are reading something wrong, or they already have an agenda with Sony and are looking for any reason to lash out. People are jumping to way too many conclusions.

 

[Zenode]

I seriously doubt it was Anon, the most they usually do is just a bunch of DDoS attacks, for them to actually SHUT IT DOWN THEMSELVES some serious security breach of their servers must have occurred.

I would rather that they shut down a gaming service for a few days than risk thousands of peoples credit card details get divulged to some hacker if its that's the case.