And if custom PS3's could do this all along... well, their security seriously wasn't up to par.Awexsome said:Custom PS3's that would have the authority to do this were impossible without the root key posted by Geohotz.insanelich said:Okay, so you got any evidence of these accusations?Awexsome said:Online criminals who wouldn't have been able to do this without the help of Geohotz. And "hackers" those hackers are the criminals. They are one and the same. Period.insanelich said:So you're blaming Geohot and "hackers"... for stealing your credit card data? Hah.Awexsome said:Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...
Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
Nope, matey. This is just good old fashioned online criminals.
Or any evidence at all to support your outlandish claims? No? Thought so.
This is why the key wasn't released by Sony. Is it that hard to get through your head?
Very fucking serious. So serious that if I ever discover the names of the hackers involved.. I will find them. And I will make them pay for their crimes. I have always hated malicious hackers.Korten12 said:
Uh... Some clarfication..?
But without the ability to run custom code AND access the PSN, they would never have been able to try. Hotz may not be the perpetrator here, but he is at least an enabler. Without his "mischief" whoever is behind this attack would never have been able to get whatever data they now got. Sony had good reasons to not allow custom code on the PSN, as this debacle shows without a doubt.tcurt said:The root key alone would not allow you to come anywhere close to being able to do something like this. It's Sony's net code that the hackers had to breach, not anything held internally within a specific PS3, and it obviously wasn't all that difficult.
After all, hackers are just losers sitting in basements and can't do anything to affect anyone in the real world.Sir John the Net Knight said:Anyone still think hackers are harmless?
Please see the other two sentences where I feel sorry about the PS3 users having this happen.That Guy Who Phails said:Shuddup, dude, this is serious, my poor old Grandpa might have his bank account emptied because of this....Agent Larkin said:However I now have to go to a friend of mine and make him eat his PS3 fanboy words. >
Well it has existed for 5 years and it has taken that long for any serious hacking to happen.JourneyThroughHell said:snip
If I wanted to say anonymous, I would have. I chose my words very carefully. I said police without specifying the Detroit Metro police or the Vancouver Highway Patrol. I said Soldiers, not the US Marine Corps, or the British Royal Navy, or the Israeli...whatever they're calling themselves these days. Despite what they might like you to believe, Anonymous does NOT encompass all the hackers of the world NOR do they represent them. There are many other hackers that operate either on their own or in smaller groups completely isolated from the rest of the world.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:And just to throw more into your line lumping every group together when it has no clear affiliation is not wise. Saying hacker and meaning anonymous is a foolish jump to make.ShadowKatt said:I do.Korten12 said:So, wonder who supports the Hackers now...
Do you still support the police even though a few brutalize citizens?
Do you still support the military even though a few murder civilians?
Any group big enough will have bad cells. I'm still grappling with some of that myself as I am very distrustful of the police because of those few bad ones. But even I acknowledge that they're not all bad, and neither are hackers.
Thank you... Just what I was thinking... And before anyone tells me anything about hacktivists and being and unrelated subject and all... I'm just going to think about my profile, credit card info and the likes... I hate it... Why oh why... I hope the one who got all the info didn't use the PS3 root key posted online to hack into the PSN service... Probably unrelated tho', but still...Awexsome said:Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...
Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
What, no. You're just making this up.erbkaiser said:But without the ability to run custom code AND access the PSN, they would never have been able to try. Hotz may not be the perpetrator here, but he is at least an enabler. Without his "mischief" whoever is behind this attack would never have been able to get whatever data they now got. Sony had good reasons to not allow custom code on the PSN, as this debacle shows without a doubt.tcurt said:The root key alone would not allow you to come anywhere close to being able to do something like this. It's Sony's net code that the hackers had to breach, not anything held internally within a specific PS3, and it obviously wasn't all that difficult.
Don't get me wrong, I am very angry at Sony for apparently running a weak security (if any) inside the PSN itself, but as long as they were able to control the access there was no risk. Thanks to Geohotz and the other crackers who breached open the PS3 the door was open for actual attacks, and I do hold them responsible for that.