Sony: Backwards Compatibility Is Never Coming Back

Anarien

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Pendragon9 said:
Nobody used BC anyway. All of you said the PS3 was crap when they HAD BC. It's your own fault they removed it . Just buy a PS2 and be happy
Yeah, "nobody" used it. Which is why so many want to see the feature and have been asking for it. The PS3 was sort of crappy when first released due to its limited library and developers openly stating how it was somewhat of a problem to develop for. Now, the PS3 has come into its own, but IMO, the original Xbox had the same problem at first with its library and other assorted growing pains.

It can be rewarding and extremely difficult to be an early adopter. That said, lots of people lament not being able to get a BC PS3. And those whose units need servicing and can't get an equivalent replacement can get screwed over.
 

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It seems to me that Sony shot themselves in the foot with that move. They probably lost a bit of money because of that move. Luckily I have a backwards compatible PS3, so I can still play Persona.
Huh I was thinking the opposite. That BC is a bad idea for a company like Sony. You are trying to get consoles into homes so you can move the software. Relying on the library of the previous console instead of pushing the next gen titles while having the most expensive console on the market has gotta have a negative impact on sales.
Then whats the point of offering downloadable older games on PSN? Why sell "old games" for a next gen system, impacting sales on potential next gen games?
 

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Well you can always hope for a third party to come along and hook you up, or buy an old PS2, they still make'em nowadays, right?

The alternative is to find something to trade with me for my BC one, but trust me, you don't want to do that.
I deal in Human souls. Only souls.

EDIT: I'm really having trouble understanding why people are making such a big deal of this?
 

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Waht happened to you Sony you used to be cool...

At the moment the only use I would even get out of my ps3 is if they added BC.
 

scotth266

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Well, great. There goes all desire of mine to get a PS3.

All the other elements were in place: good games, good console pricing, all that was left was this.

It looks like I'll be sitting out until the next Sony console arrives.
 

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...this whole "no backwards compatability" thing is gona become the new "price is too high", isn't it? sigh... we'll always find a reason to moan =\
 

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I'm guessing they're saying this now because they don't want people holding back on a purchase waiting for a future SKU with BC. At this point I'm inclined to believe them though, if they intended to put it back in at some point it would have happened already.
 

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Heh, this is one of the reasons I won't buy consoles, ever. Because with PC, there is always backwards compatibility, no matter what. Right now, I have every Fallout game installed, and they work perfectly, and I don't need to buy three separate consoles just play them.

Go on Sony, torture the dirty console playing peasants, so they'll realize the err of their ways, and join the PC gaming master race! ~snicker~
 

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HyenaThePirate said:
Anarien said:
On the surface, it appears to be a misstep for Sony until you look at the ongoing sales figures for the PS2. It is still quite alive, folks.

You bring BC back to the PS3 and who would have reasons beyond price to buy a PS2 anymore?

Pure economic decision. Self-preservation, really.
You're right. Why encourage people to purchase your NEWER, costly system you invested ludicrous amounts of capital into at tremendous losses when you can keep milking the cow from the last generation.
This is the other side of the strategy, obviously. They protect their bottom line by selling both consoles.

If Sony included BC in the PS3, that enables people to only buy one unit. They make less. People who want to play both older and newer games will be forced to buy a PS2 and a PS3 (or buy PSN rereleases - but either way $$$ for Sony), while those who want strictly new will buy a PS3 (and either likely have a PS2 already or have no interest in one). Those who want old only will stick to the PS2.

I thought it was so obvious that it didn't need to be stated, but I guess not.
 

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Anarien said:
Again, just get a ps2. The ps3 is for next gen. It has ps1 compat and that should be good enough. Seriously, they just dropped the price, why do you want more? It only proves that fanboy sheep are never happy, so I don't know why I bother. Even if they changed their minds and put BC in, I bet you'd find another thing to pick at. I'm sorry, but frankly, i"m sick of it. You people are never happy with what you have. Seriously,
 

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bodyklok said:
scotth266 said:
It looks like I'll be sitting out until the next Sony console arrives.
I doubt that will play PS2 games either.
Oh no, it'll have backwards compatibility, but only when the console comes out initially. That seems to be the way Sony operates with BC: I've opened up to their game.

When the PS4 comes out, I'll grab one ASAP, and laugh when BC is inevitably cut later on.
 

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Anarien said:
Pendragon9 said:
Nobody used BC anyway. All of you said the PS3 was crap when they HAD BC. It's your own fault they removed it . Just buy a PS2 and be happy
Yeah, "nobody" used it. Which is why so many want to see the feature and have been asking for it. The PS3 was sort of crappy when first released due to its limited library and developers openly stating how it was somewhat of a problem to develop for. Now, the PS3 has come into its own, but IMO, the original Xbox had the same problem at first with its library and other assorted growing pains.

It can be rewarding and extremely difficult to be an early adopter. That said, lots of people lament not being able to get a BC PS3. And those whose units need servicing and can't get an equivalent replacement can get screwed over.
the thing is people will always find a stupid reason not to get the ps3, first it's the price, then it's no bc, next it will be something even more stupid

the thing is that if they wanted it they should have gotten one when they were out. the reason i got mine when i did was cause it had full bc in it cause i wanted that. it was rather easy just to keep your ps2 and buy a ps3.

i think they also don't want to pull the m$ version which is a software emulation and is rather broken and most games can't be played and probly won't ever be able to be played
 

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Why is every one getting pissed at Sony? Last time I checked Microsoft gave BC a big old fuck you at launch and almost no one bitched at that. They needed to cut back on money the first thing to get cut was BC because well people didn't use it. If you are going to blame anyone blame your selfs. Well I will enjoy playing God of War on my older PS3. HA! I will just wait another year as people will pay a crap load for the older PS'3s that can do BC, then I will buy a slim. I will have a good 100-200$ after that I think.
 

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Honestly, what's the point of this anymore? All of the consoles have been slowly working to destroy their core fanbase with little tweaks, or larger ones if you look at Nintendo. Xbox has been doing the least, but I don't think I was alone when I assumed the Slim PS3 would help push Sony back up there.

It's sad to say, but a good part of me is just screaming to forget the consoles, and hop onto the PC. Yes, we won't get some exclusive titles, but Sony's claim that people are buying it for those titles feels a little peculiar. Some of them, such as Little Big Planet, were great, but despite the fact that the console has been out for well over two years, it has lacked to produce anything truly spectacular, or at least only 5 games worth mentioning have appeared.

But hey, this is what being a corporation is all about, right? Nintendo already has shown us with the 'we're not targeting our core fanbase anymore' E3 situation, and completely flipped on it when they started to lose some popularity, crawling back to the core fanbase with a few measly games that we could probably have the same experience playing the original version. But what will Sony do? Sony has been in hot water with their console since they first announced the price tag. It's been a series of problems with a key notice being the fact that they ignore their fans.

Sony, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, specifically because this has been said far too many times, but the console needs backwards compatibility. A good chunk of the people who go out to buy the console are going to sell their PS2 in the process. But I can completely understand where you're coming from because why do something for your fans when you can make more money instead? It only makes sense if you think about it. If a person buys a PS3 that isn't backwards compatible, then they had to have a PS2 in their household as well. Having two Sony consoles in one home is bound to be worth while to their figures, but it's the sheer fact that simply for money, they're willing to throw their fanbase under the bus.

Congratulations Sony, you've reached the same level of hatred that some people feel for Nintendo. We all hope you pull you heads out of the ground before you push out the next big move.
 

Jast

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Well of course people are buying a PlayStation 3 to play PlayStation 3 games and blu-rays, because PlayStation 2 games are becoming obsolete and more difficult to find. There's not that much PS 2 games out there in major retail stores.