Sony: Momentum Swinging in Our Favor

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Logan Westbrook said:
SCEE Boss Andrew House says that despite its rather slow start, the PS3 has not only made up lost ground, but could even take the lead.
Overtake Xbox 360? Certainly

Overtake the Wii? No chance... and that is the definition of "taking the Lead".

Sorry, but if you (not sure if that is the OP or House's opinion) are going to act like overall sales matter at all then you can't ignore the Wii's sales.

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Actually, I am of the opinion PS3 has ALREADY surpassed Xbox 360 in number of FUNCTIONAL consoles on the market. No way in hell all the 40 million Xbox 360s sold are all in working order, when a very high (certainly much higher) proportion of PS3s will be out there and in people's homes, enough to overtake 360's 13% lead in total sold.

That's market penetration. That's what people really mean when they go on about console sales being in any way important.
 

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eventually everyone will have both.

Personally I prefer 360 games and pads. the pad is soooooo much better imo but thats personal preference.

PS3 will last the war of attrition but by then I think 360s will be so cheap everyone will have one and microsoft will make its money in software sales. The advantage of selling more early is that people are already invested in your console because all their friends have one and the games they are playing are the earlier console's version.

still 360 and ps3 will always be neck and neck because of the games, I prefer xbox cos of halo etc but trends show that maybe exclusives will be less of a thing now.

I give it 5 years til the next batch of consoles. round about.
 

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ianrocks6495 said:
Still haven't seen the PS3 live up to its promise of better looking games, but whatever. I agree that sales are improving, and its reaching a larger audience, but will it overtake the 360? Unlikely.
Uncharted 2 (2009):

Metal Gear Solid 4 (2008):

For comparison, Gears of War 2 (2008):

Course, that's nothing compared to PC graphics, that's the platform you want for THAT kind of stuff, also THE platform for multiplatforms. But I favour the PC>PS3>Wii(GC)>PS2>X360 priority (yes PS2 over Xbox 360) due to the matter of EXCLUSIVES! Xbox 360 has "No GAEMS!" Ironic a label unfairly foisted on PS3 on launch date more accurately describes the Xbox 360 today. Lets compare exclusives:

Playstation 3 exclusive games 2009-2011:
-Wipeout HD Fury
-Killzone 2
-Infamous
-Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
-Ratchet & Clank: Crack in Time
-Demon's Souls
-MAG
-God of War III
-Time Crisis: Razing Storm
-Yakuza 3
-3D Dot Game Heroes
-ModNation Racers
-LittleBigPlanet 2
-Gran Turismo 5
-Ape Espace Fury! Fury!
-Killzone 3 w/ Move
-Infamous 2
-The Last Guardian
-Motorstorm Apocalypse
-Resistance 3
-Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
-Twisted Metal
-(Agent = announced)
-(Uncharted 3 = highly probable)

This is a SELECT list that are on my Wish list or already played and liked. No bullshit like SOCOM 4 or some nonsense JRPGs.

VS

Xbox 360 exclusive games 2009-2011:
-Forza 3 (I personally wouldn't bother)
-Halo 3: ODST
-Alan Wake (barely qualifies IMHO)
-Halo Reach
-Gears of War 3
(Crackdown 2 and others not included because they are genuinely crap.)

If it has a PC release then it's not a 360 exclusive. Simple as that. Overall, a PS2 is more valuable than an Xbox 360 in terms of the games only it can offer, and it's not that 360 hasn't had enough time (2005 to 2011-projected vs 2000 to 2006).
 

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Treblaine said:
ianrocks6495 said:
Still haven't seen the PS3 live up to its promise of better looking games, but whatever. I agree that sales are improving, and its reaching a larger audience, but will it overtake the 360? Unlikely.
Uncharted 2 (2009):

Metal Gear Solid 4 (2008):

For comparison, Gears of War 2 (2008):

Course, that's nothing compared to PC graphics, that's the platform you want for THAT kind of stuff, also THE platform for multiplatforms. But I favour the PC>PS3>Wii(GC)>PS2>X360 priority (yes PS2 over Xbox 360) due to the matter of EXCLUSIVES! Xbox 360 has "No GAEMS!" Ironic a label unfairly foisted on PS3 on launch date more accurately describes the Xbox 360 today. Lets compare exclusives:

Playstation 3 exclusive games 2009-2011:
-Wipeout HD Fury
-Killzone 2
-Infamous
-Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
-Ratchet & Clank: Crack in Time
-Demon's Souls
-MAG
-God of War III
-Time Crisis: Razing Storm
-Yakuza 3
-3D Dot Game Heroes
-ModNation Racers
-LittleBigPlanet 2
-Gran Turismo 5
-Ape Espace Fury! Fury!
-Killzone 3 w/ Move
-Infamous 2
-The Last Guardian
-Motorstorm Apocalypse
-Resistance 3
-Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
-Twisted Metal
-(Agent = announced)
-(Uncharted 3 = highly probable)

This is a SELECT list that are on my Wish list or already played and liked. No bullshit like SOCOM 4 or some nonsense JRPGs.

VS

Xbox 360 exclusive games 2009-2011:
-Forza 3 (I personally wouldn't bother)
-Halo 3: ODST
-Alan Wake (barely qualifies IMHO)
-Halo Reach
-Gears of War 3
(Crackdown 2 and others not included because they are genuinely crap.)

If it has a PC release then it's not a 360 exclusive. Simple as that. Overall, a PS2 is more valuable than an Xbox 360 in terms of the games only it can offer, and it's not that 360 hasn't had enough time (2005 to 2011-projected vs 2000 to 2006).
They all look the same too me.... maybe its because I have a standard definition TV, but the only game that really had great graphics is Uncharted 2. The rest are just the same as 360 graphics.
 

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I don't think sony or microsoft have to worry about nintendo any more, with game sales dropping and publishers pulling out, the system king might burn out soon.
The hardware sales of the Wii will definitely continue to plummet, since the market has mostly been saturated at this point. Having said that, I don't think that necessarilly equates to Nintendo doing poorly for the rest of this year or even for the rest of this console race. There are three points that I think work heavily in Nintendo's favour:

1. In accordance to their strategy of disruption, Nintendo has moved upstream and has shifted their focus from producing gateway and bridge games to producing bridge and core games. This can be seen in their impressive lineup for this fall and winter: Metroid: Other M, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Kirby's Epic Yarn, GoldenEye etc. Not only could this potentially draw in core gamers who previously didn't give the Wii a second thought, it could convert at least part of the Wii's casual audience into core gamers.

In general, the core market tends to be more lucrative on a long-term basis simply beacuse core gamers are more likely to spend money on games. But while Nintendo's previously casual focus might be temporarily hurting them, they are also the only one who can literally make themselves a core audience.

2. While it is Sony and Microsoft who are trying to perpetuate another motion controls craze, Nintendo could very well (ironically) benefit from this as well. While some core gamers might have at least some interest in Kinetic and Move, the remaining casual gamers who might potentially be drawn to it are more likely to go for the cheapest option (the Wii) over the other two. If that turns out to be the case, it will allow Nintendo to squeeze out a few more precious sales of the Wii.

3. While the PSP has regained some momentum in recent years (the stumbling block that is the PSP Go notwithstanding), Nintendo remains king of the handheld market. With the 3DS, not only are they aiming to solidify that position, they are also encroaching upon the market that the PSP has. Afterall, the handheld market is as much a part of Nintendo's upstream shift as the console one and the initial lineup for the 3DS includes a great deal of core games.

Thanks to good marketing, a well designed piece of hardware that offers something for everyone and great first and third-party support, with no successor for the PSP in sight in the near future, the Nintendo is preety much poised to remain a dominant force in this market. Infact, the hype itself preety much makes the 3DS's success a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Overall, the main thing to consider with Nintendo is that while console hardware sales are certainly going to falter, they will still be able to squeeze out some more sales. Meanwhile, any potential loss they might incur due to decreased console hardware sales will be compensated by increased software and handheld hardware sales. Afterall, this wouldn't be the first time Nintendo relied primarily on it's games and handheld market to carry them over (the Nintendo 64/GameCube era being the first one) and they are in much better position this time around. So I honestly wouldn't be suprised if this holiday season ends up being the most successful for Nintendo or at least as lucrative as that of Sony.

Speaking of Sony, however, I cannot deny that the PS3 has gained momentum and is increasingly becoming the console of choice for many core gamers. Beacuse of this, it might very well be Microsoft who pulls the short end of the stick this holiday season...which is ironic, when you consider that the Xbox 360 has been the dominant force on the console market since the start of this generation. While Sony may have the less innovative of the two new motion control schemes, at least it is keeping the core game demographic as it's main target. Microsoft's marketing of the Kinetic, however, has been unfocused, ocassionally trying to appeal to one or the other. By trying to pander to both demographics, they might very well end up pleasing neither. Combined with their increasing loss of the core market to sony (which can be attributed to both PS3's successes as well as Xbox 360's failures) and Microsoft could very well find itself at the tail of the console race.

Many people have predicted that Nintendo will be the first one to produce a successor to their console. Considering the above, Microsoft will probably not be far behind.
 

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If I weren't going back to college I'd probably be getting a PS3, but I have to admit the marketing campaign for the slim version (you know, the one that says "it only does EVERYTHING") really put me off because the slim version could do so much less. It was like a corporate induced doublethink. And everyone fell for it.

Come to think of it, I'm still pretty torn between a 360 and ps3; my wii quietly gathers dust while my ps2 and pc get all the action in the house. I'd just stick with my PC but there aren't enough games coming out for it.
PC defence Force: Mobilize!

PC Exclusives 2009-2011:
-ArmA II
-Team Fortress 2's PC Exclusive Content
-Empire: Total War
-Killing Floor
-Dawn of War II
-Shattered Horizon
-Cryostasis
-Necrovision
-Osmos
-The Void
-Torchlight
-Grappling Hook
-Machinariaum
-Amnesia: Dark Ascent
-Chaos Rising
-Booster Trooper
-Plain Sight
-Dogfighter
-Nuclear Dawn
-Natural Selection 2
-Foreign Legion: Buckets of blood
-Napoleon: Total War
-Arma II Arrowhead
-Global Agenda
-STALKER: Call of Pripryat
-Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty + 2 major expansions
-Civilisation V
-Star Wars: The Old Republic
-Diablo 3
-Shogun 2: Total War
-Trackmania 2

Metric shit-ton of mods, total conversions and custom content.

Not to mention you're still 10x better off with the PC version than almost any Console version of a multiplatform game. I mean to spite all the griping from the fanbase Modern Warfare 2 is still better on PC than either 360 or PS3. Same applies the overwhelming majority of other releases. Especially Valve titles.
 

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ianrocks6495 said:
Treblaine said:
ianrocks6495 said:
Still haven't seen the PS3 live up to its promise of better looking games, but whatever. I agree that sales are improving, and its reaching a larger audience, but will it overtake the 360? Unlikely.
Uncharted 2 (2009):

Metal Gear Solid 4 (2008):

For comparison, Gears of War 2 (2008):

Course, that's nothing compared to PC graphics, that's the platform you want for THAT kind of stuff, also THE platform for multiplatforms. But I favour the PC>PS3>Wii(GC)>PS2>X360 priority (yes PS2 over Xbox 360) due to the matter of EXCLUSIVES! Xbox 360 has "No GAEMS!" Ironic a label unfairly foisted on PS3 on launch date more accurately describes the Xbox 360 today. Lets compare exclusives:

Playstation 3 exclusive games 2009-2011:
-Wipeout HD Fury
-Killzone 2
-Infamous
-Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
-Ratchet & Clank: Crack in Time
-Demon's Souls
-MAG
-God of War III
-Time Crisis: Razing Storm
-Yakuza 3
-3D Dot Game Heroes
-ModNation Racers
-LittleBigPlanet 2
-Gran Turismo 5
-Ape Espace Fury! Fury!
-Killzone 3 w/ Move
-Infamous 2
-The Last Guardian
-Motorstorm Apocalypse
-Resistance 3
-Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
-Twisted Metal
-(Agent = announced)
-(Uncharted 3 = highly probable)

This is a SELECT list that are on my Wish list or already played and liked. No bullshit like SOCOM 4 or some nonsense JRPGs.

VS

Xbox 360 exclusive games 2009-2011:
-Forza 3 (I personally wouldn't bother)
-Halo 3: ODST
-Alan Wake (barely qualifies IMHO)
-Halo Reach
-Gears of War 3
(Crackdown 2 and others not included because they are genuinely crap.)

If it has a PC release then it's not a 360 exclusive. Simple as that. Overall, a PS2 is more valuable than an Xbox 360 in terms of the games only it can offer, and it's not that 360 hasn't had enough time (2005 to 2011-projected vs 2000 to 2006).
They all look the same too me.... maybe its because I have a standard definition TV, but the only game that really had great graphics is Uncharted 2. The rest are just the same as 360 graphics.
You know you can get HD output to a Computer Monitor if you use the VGA cable for PS3 or Xbox 360, right?

Just don't sit 10 feet away from a 15 inch screen or the pixels will be so small you may as well be watching SD content. Rule of thumb for viewing 720p video or gameplay, sit at a distance roughly 2.6-times the screen size (Diagonal diameter in inches) from the screen so only about 3 and a half feet from a 15 inch screen :(

You imply that Halo 3 is comparable in graphics to Killzone 2, well I'd like to inform you that both Halo 3 and ODST have been in only 640p native resolution rather than 720p also with no anti-aliasing. Killzone 2 however runs at full 720p native and with 2xAA as well. That resolution and aliasing DOES make a significant difference.

Consider getting a 1080p computer monitor with a HDMI port at around 24 inch diagonal-diameter. It's great moving up to that size even for general computer work - SOOO much more real estate to work with - you can plug in a PS3 + 360 as well (HDMI+VGA). Though I've had my 360 unplugged for a while. Not enough games and I HAVE been looking.
 

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ianrocks6495 said:
Still haven't seen the PS3 live up to its promise of better looking games, but whatever. I agree that sales are improving, and its reaching a larger audience, but will it overtake the 360? Unlikely.
LOL thats the funniest thing I heard today. Killzone 3 (see screenshots), UNchared 2. Man you made my day. Thanks!
 

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Treblaine said:
ianrocks6495 said:
Still haven't seen the PS3 live up to its promise of better looking games, but whatever. I agree that sales are improving, and its reaching a larger audience, but will it overtake the 360? Unlikely.
Uncharted 2 (2009):

Metal Gear Solid 4 (2008):

For comparison, Gears of War 2 (2008):

Course, that's nothing compared to PC graphics, that's the platform you want for THAT kind of stuff, also THE platform for multiplatforms. But I favour the PC>PS3>Wii(GC)>PS2>X360 priority (yes PS2 over Xbox 360) due to the matter of EXCLUSIVES! Xbox 360 has "No GAEMS!" Ironic a label unfairly foisted on PS3 on launch date more accurately describes the Xbox 360 today. Lets compare exclusives:

Playstation 3 exclusive games 2009-2011:
-Wipeout HD Fury
-Killzone 2
-Infamous
-Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
-Ratchet & Clank: Crack in Time
-Demon's Souls
-MAG
-God of War III
-Time Crisis: Razing Storm
-Yakuza 3
-3D Dot Game Heroes
-ModNation Racers
-LittleBigPlanet 2
-Gran Turismo 5
-Ape Espace Fury! Fury!
-Killzone 3 w/ Move
-Infamous 2
-The Last Guardian
-Motorstorm Apocalypse
-Resistance 3
-Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
-Twisted Metal
-(Agent = announced)
-(Uncharted 3 = highly probable)

This is a SELECT list that are on my Wish list or already played and liked. No bullshit like SOCOM 4 or some nonsense JRPGs.

VS

Xbox 360 exclusive games 2009-2011:
-Forza 3 (I personally wouldn't bother)
-Halo 3: ODST
-Alan Wake (barely qualifies IMHO)
-Halo Reach
-Gears of War 3
(Crackdown 2 and others not included because they are genuinely crap.)

If it has a PC release then it's not a 360 exclusive. Simple as that. Overall, a PS2 is more valuable than an Xbox 360 in terms of the games only it can offer, and it's not that 360 hasn't had enough time (2005 to 2011-projected vs 2000 to 2006).
Why Treblaine, I do believe you are trying to seduce me...

But let's not dive down to a flame war here, shall we?
 

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Treblaine said:
ianrocks6495 said:
Treblaine said:
ianrocks6495 said:
Still haven't seen the PS3 live up to its promise of better looking games, but whatever. I agree that sales are improving, and its reaching a larger audience, but will it overtake the 360? Unlikely.
Uncharted 2 (2009):

Metal Gear Solid 4 (2008):

For comparison, Gears of War 2 (2008):

Course, that's nothing compared to PC graphics, that's the platform you want for THAT kind of stuff, also THE platform for multiplatforms. But I favour the PC>PS3>Wii(GC)>PS2>X360 priority (yes PS2 over Xbox 360) due to the matter of EXCLUSIVES! Xbox 360 has "No GAEMS!" Ironic a label unfairly foisted on PS3 on launch date more accurately describes the Xbox 360 today. Lets compare exclusives:

Playstation 3 exclusive games 2009-2011:
-Wipeout HD Fury
-Killzone 2
-Infamous
-Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
-Ratchet & Clank: Crack in Time
-Demon's Souls
-MAG
-God of War III
-Time Crisis: Razing Storm
-Yakuza 3
-3D Dot Game Heroes
-ModNation Racers
-LittleBigPlanet 2
-Gran Turismo 5
-Ape Espace Fury! Fury!
-Killzone 3 w/ Move
-Infamous 2
-The Last Guardian
-Motorstorm Apocalypse
-Resistance 3
-Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
-Twisted Metal
-(Agent = announced)
-(Uncharted 3 = highly probable)

This is a SELECT list that are on my Wish list or already played and liked. No bullshit like SOCOM 4 or some nonsense JRPGs.

VS

Xbox 360 exclusive games 2009-2011:
-Forza 3 (I personally wouldn't bother)
-Halo 3: ODST
-Alan Wake (barely qualifies IMHO)
-Halo Reach
-Gears of War 3
(Crackdown 2 and others not included because they are genuinely crap.)

If it has a PC release then it's not a 360 exclusive. Simple as that. Overall, a PS2 is more valuable than an Xbox 360 in terms of the games only it can offer, and it's not that 360 hasn't had enough time (2005 to 2011-projected vs 2000 to 2006).
They all look the same too me.... maybe its because I have a standard definition TV, but the only game that really had great graphics is Uncharted 2. The rest are just the same as 360 graphics.
You know you can get HD output to a Computer Monitor if you use the VGA cable for PS3 or Xbox 360, right?

Just don't sit 10 feet away from a 15 inch screen or the pixels will be so small you may as well be watching SD content. Rule of thumb for viewing 720p video or gameplay, sit at a distance roughly 2.6-times the screen size (Diagonal diameter in inches) from the screen so only about 3 and a half feet from a 15 inch screen :(

You imply that Halo 3 is comparable in graphics to Killzone 2, well I'd like to inform you that both Halo 3 and ODST have been in only 640p native resolution rather than 720p also with no anti-aliasing. Killzone 2 however runs at full 720p native and with 2xAA as well. That resolution and aliasing DOES make a significant difference.

Consider getting a 1080p computer monitor with a HDMI port at around 24 inch diagonal-diameter. It's great moving up to that size even for general computer work - SOOO much more real estate to work with - you can plug in a PS3 + 360 as well (HDMI+VGA). Though I've had my 360 unplugged for a while. Not enough games and I HAVE been looking.
I am gonna get an HDTV soon, I have a ten inch SD right now. On an SD, the PS3 looks exactly the same.
 

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I've enjoyed mine a great deal, it's a fine system. Not sure it'll ovetake the PS2 in terms of depth and variety of its gaming library, but I do not regret having a PS3.
 

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Jumplion said:
Treblaine said:
ianrocks6495 said:
Still haven't seen the PS3 live up to its promise of better looking games, but whatever. I agree that sales are improving, and its reaching a larger audience, but will it overtake the 360? Unlikely.
Uncharted 2 (2009):

Metal Gear Solid 4 (2008):

For comparison, Gears of War 2 (2008):

Course, that's nothing compared to PC graphics, that's the platform you want for THAT kind of stuff, also THE platform for multiplatforms. But I favour the PC>PS3>Wii(GC)>PS2>X360 priority (yes PS2 over Xbox 360) due to the matter of EXCLUSIVES! Xbox 360 has "No GAEMS!" Ironic a label unfairly foisted on PS3 on launch date more accurately describes the Xbox 360 today. Lets compare exclusives:

Playstation 3 exclusive games 2009-2011:
-Wipeout HD Fury
-Killzone 2
-Infamous
-Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
-Ratchet & Clank: Crack in Time
-Demon's Souls
-MAG
-God of War III
-Time Crisis: Razing Storm
-Yakuza 3
-3D Dot Game Heroes
-ModNation Racers
-LittleBigPlanet 2
-Gran Turismo 5
-Ape Espace Fury! Fury!
-Killzone 3 w/ Move
-Infamous 2
-The Last Guardian
-Motorstorm Apocalypse
-Resistance 3
-Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
-Twisted Metal
-(Agent = announced)
-(Uncharted 3 = highly probable)

This is a SELECT list that are on my Wish list or already played and liked. No bullshit like SOCOM 4 or some nonsense JRPGs.

VS

Xbox 360 exclusive games 2009-2011:
-Forza 3 (I personally wouldn't bother)
-Halo 3: ODST
-Alan Wake (barely qualifies IMHO)
-Halo Reach
-Gears of War 3
(Crackdown 2 and others not included because they are genuinely crap.)

If it has a PC release then it's not a 360 exclusive. Simple as that. Overall, a PS2 is more valuable than an Xbox 360 in terms of the games only it can offer, and it's not that 360 hasn't had enough time (2005 to 2011-projected vs 2000 to 2006).
Why Treblaine, I do believe you are trying to seduce me...

But let's not dive down to a flame war here, shall we?
Just to counteract all that, perhaps I should take a moment to go over the merits of Xbox 360's exclusives


-Kameo: Elements of Power = one of the last of the decent games from Rare, originally a Gamecube title there was a lot to this game with a very "zelda-like" adventure feel. I likey.

-Dead Rising (ignoring atrocious Wii version) = a game that defies genre, it has zombies but certainly isn't survival horror. This is interesting enough just for it's sandbox like messing around with murdering zombies... but there have been better games before and since when it comes to fun killing zombies... but this was the first to do it with such relish!

-Halo 3 = well it's freaking Halo, you pretty much have to play this game even if you don't like it. I have to say for such a short game it sure felt long! Didn't help that it rehashed SO MUCH of the previous two Halo games and the plot just ate itself. Halo: CE was good way back when... but by 2007.
-Halo 3: ODST = well from more-of-the-same to more-of-the-same only you are now smaller, weaker and slower... and the pistol is the most powerful weapon in the game. Good thing this was sold at budget price.

-Crackdown = now to me, this is a proper gem on the system. The missions are crap, the gunplay weak and less said about the driving... but the platforming and LEVEL UP BWWWIIIINNG! Oh and I love the controller's voice, so cheesy and cool. Shame Crackdown 2 was only the EXACT SAME GAME only with a graphics downgrade (they weren't that great in the first game) and even worse missions and shooting.

-Fable 2 = Nice action-RPG. What's that, Zelda was an action-RPG? Sign me up! No time for the start a family malarkey, but swashbuckling and magic attacks in dungeons is great. But with Fable 1 and Fable 3 on PC and better on PC... this one just seems like the odd one out.

-Gears of War 2: Gear Harder = suffers from the same problem but to lesser extent as Halo, at least it ups the ante a bit, though still a criminally short trudge. leans on the online multiplayer too much which I refuse to pay for.

(Oh crap, I've run out of decent exclusives already. Quick, go to XBLA!)

-Shadow Complex = Hmm, rips off riffs on the Metroid style of gameplay with exploring and levelling up, with a fully 3D world, only written by a pathetically homophobic futurist... so best out of three. It's a buy.

-Splosion man = you explode to jump, is "nintendo-hard" and the main character is not that annoying. Good 2D platforming fun with an original twist.

So 360 is worth it, if you get a cheap £99 Arcade or Core model and don't waste any money on peripherals or subscriptions: 6 or 7 decent games and 2 XBLA games worth getting (use a spare USB stick for storage).
 

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Didnt the PS2 also have a smiliar launch? Being quite slow I mean.
Few people remember the nightmare that was the PS2 launch.

It was pretty much laughed at and crapped on for a while.

Kinda reverse nostalgia now, people act like it was gaming gold from the get go.

I've got all 3 systems.

I really enjoy my Wii, easily got 20 games that are fantastic and there are easily a half dozen games I'm super excited for in the next few years (folks overlook every good game that comes out for it and just mention the 2k bad games made daily, that might be fair...I guess), I enjoy my PS3 a whole lot as it has become the entertainment capital of my house.

The 360...I dunno. Most of the exclusives for it have bored the hell out of me. I really enjoy a solid story more than great graphics but most of the exclusives have increasingly small stories that are hard on the testosterone than they are on the entertainment.

That's for ME, I'm not saying folks who like it are retarded or anything, just my own personal thought.

I loved Halo 1 up to the flood for instance. Then the flood hit and I thought "Well ok, sure the story is cliche and boring now but maybe Halo 2 will pick up." Then I played Halo 2 and thought "Ok so it starts off pretty bad...OH MAN IT IS GETTING SO GO*story is over*. Wait...did I just pay 40 bucks for a multiplayer game with 10 minutes of single player? Couldn't they have put that on the cover of the game?"

That was the last time I really got into a shooting game on either xbox console. I still like the 360, it sits on my entertainment stand with the rest of my children. I just wish I had a reason to turn it on anymore :(.

Note: Again, these are just how I felt about the situation, not saying anything about ACTUAL quality of 360 games, just that my own subjective feelings panned out as such.
 

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godofallu said:
Now all they have to do is make good games for it.
Like Demon's Souls, Uncharted 2, Valkyria Chronicles, Little Big Planet, Ratchet & Clank, MGS4, Trinity Universe, White Knight Chronicles... wait those are already out.
All of those games suck though, IMO.
 

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godofallu said:
s69-5 said:
godofallu said:
Now all they have to do is make good games for it.
Like Demon's Souls, Uncharted 2, Valkyria Chronicles, Little Big Planet, Ratchet & Clank, MGS4, Trinity Universe, White Knight Chronicles... wait those are already out.
All of those games suck though, IMO.
Well then, the PS3 is clearly not the right console for you. I assume you've played them all to the extent that you can judge them fairly, otherwise you could just be running your mouth because if they don't interest you then clearly they suck.
 

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godofallu said:
s69-5 said:
godofallu said:
Now all they have to do is make good games for it.
Like Demon's Souls, Uncharted 2, Valkyria Chronicles, Little Big Planet, Ratchet & Clank, MGS4, Trinity Universe, White Knight Chronicles... wait those are already out.
All of those games suck though, IMO.
lol i don't think video games are for you. Also you forgot infamous!!!
 

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The big problem PS3 had before is a sufficient *lack* of third party support. Now with EA demoing games with the PS3 instead of the 360, and other companies doing so as well, it shows that third parties are starting to get on board the PS3 bandwagon before it takes off.

Also, Medal of Honor and Dead Space 2 Limited Edition exclusive content are also signs of changing tides.

You know what, Microsoft should up its game a little. In fact, I want it too. This is the perfect time; start developing new IPs in-house, to compete with the great variety of first party titles on Sony's end. However, chances of Microsoft taking such an opportunity are..