Sony "Pleased" By Nintendo 3DS

Swifteye

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Ehra said:
Swifteye said:
I really don't understand what's so great about 3D. it's really eluding me why everything is touting 3D like it means something. It's a novelty. Like drinking lots of soda because your in the coca cola factory. But you wouldn't want to have all those coke drinks at your house. Espesically beverly ughhh.
Sound use to be considered a novelty when it came to movies. Heck some studios at the time even said sound would be a failure, claiming that audiences wouldn't want to have to watch AND listen at the same time.
Are you kidding me with that comparison? Sound has added so many things to that meduim that entire movies are made and broken based on diaglogue and musical score. Your telling me that there will be movies that will become great bestseller hits that will enthrall and entertain the world merely because it is 3D. Bullpocky.
 

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Tom Goldman said:
Microsoft still feels 3D is ahead of its time, and could potentially be left behind if 3D happens to catch on.
Yep. Why does that not surprise me ... Oh yeah, they did that with the internet too! And with graphical UIs. Although I really don't see why 3D is such a big deal, I do believe that it has much more potential to become a useful, standard part of gaming than motion control does.
 

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Swifteye said:
Ehra said:
Swifteye said:
I really don't understand what's so great about 3D. it's really eluding me why everything is touting 3D like it means something. It's a novelty. Like drinking lots of soda because your in the coca cola factory. But you wouldn't want to have all those coke drinks at your house. Espesically beverly ughhh.
Sound use to be considered a novelty when it came to movies. Heck some studios at the time even said sound would be a failure, claiming that audiences wouldn't want to have to watch AND listen at the same time.
Are you kidding me with that comparison? Sound has added so many things to that meduim that entire movies are made and broken based on diaglogue and musical score. Your telling me that there will be movies that will become great bestseller hits that will enthrall and entertain the world merely because it is 3D. Bullpocky.
I don't think he was comparing them, he was just pointing out that something first considered a novelty might actually turn into something vital.

Also, I might be alone on this, but 3d in home entertainment is alot better than in theaters, and while I havn't spent much time with it, I would see it as a great addition to the quality of my gaming experience, as much as, for example, the graphics of a ps3 game compared to the graphics of a wii game.

Sorry if i'm rambling, it's 6am here, and I probably need to go to sleep.
 

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You know, this actually does work perfectly for Sony. If they want to go 3D- and since they also make the 3D-capable TVs, yes, they want this to work and for us to want to buy/watch/play it -then it becoming an industry standard is very much so in their favor. Nintendo's success here can only help them... well, in a company-wide sense, given the 3D films, TVs, AND games...
 

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I am so sick of this trend. 3D does not make a game better. It doesn't make a difference, you start ignoring it after 15 minutes of staring at the screen, and all it really does is give big businesses the chance to charge us more for nothing.
 

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Low Key said:
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The PS3 is still not making a profit yet and their other divisions are not in that great a shape.
Hmm...that's probably why they like Nintendo doing their part to promote 3D, doncha think? Perhaps it might lead to 3D TVs selling...maybe???
Well the more people who buy inferior nintendo products the more they will put up with Sony electronics.
/Snob




(hehehehehehehehhe)
 

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ZippyDSMlee said:
Low Key said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
The PS3 is still not making a profit yet and their other divisions are not in that great a shape.
Hmm...that's probably why they like Nintendo doing their part to promote 3D, doncha think? Perhaps it might lead to 3D TVs selling...maybe???
Well the more people who buy inferior nintendo products the more they will put up with Sony electronics.
/Snob




(hehehehehehehehhe)
I have an Xbox 360 and a Panasonic TV, so I guess I wouldn't know. :p
 

ZippyDSMlee

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Low Key said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
Low Key said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
The PS3 is still not making a profit yet and their other divisions are not in that great a shape.
Hmm...that's probably why they like Nintendo doing their part to promote 3D, doncha think? Perhaps it might lead to 3D TVs selling...maybe???
Well the more people who buy inferior nintendo products the more they will put up with Sony electronics.
/Snob




(hehehehehehehehhe)
I have an Xbox 360 and a Panasonic TV, so I guess I wouldn't know. :p
Yes you would you have a easy brake oven, What number are you on I'm on 3 if you count the sell off of my first console 3-4 years ago...I just got a newer unit a few months back.
Damn thing still sounds like its trying to hover when it reads a disc but other than that I can play for 4 or 5 hours and not have it fail up.
 

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The problem with the whole 3D rush in my mind is that it's not a new technology, we've been here before, and saw it as a fad then too. Truthfully I'm not sure if the public is going to remain enchanted by it, because honestly I think some of the productions I've seen, like "Alice in Wonderland" didn't exactly benefit from it. For the most part 3D seems to be a gimmick that is replacing quality film making, and I have yet to see it actually work as an extension of the film making process. I mean right now it's awesome because it's something differant, but with the fact that a lot of people get headaches from it (like me) it will be interesting to see how long it endures.

Truthfully it seems like most of the more interesting, experimental ideas didn't go anywhere with it. For example I remember one movie hosted by Elvira called "The Mask" (which I believe I've mentioned before) where there was this haunted mask that caused people who wore it to have surrealistic visions, and every time a character put it on you were told "put on the mask" (your 3d glasses) and you'd be shown what they saw, and it was kind of trippy, despite not being a great movie overall. The point being is that it was an attempt to use 3d as a storytelling tool, and really I haven't seen much stuff like that.

I also have memories of movies like "Metal Storm: The Destruction Of Jared Simms" that were in 3d and ummm... well, let's just say there are reasons why it's not remembered as a classic of cinema.

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One final note, on the subject of the article itself, understand that Sony is a much bigger company than either Microsoft or Nintendo in most ways that matter. Sony is an electronics manufacturer first and foremost, and video games are only one facet of their business. They invested a lot of money to get contol of the current gen video format (Blu Ray), defeating it's rivals. Taking hits in the video game arena is probably seen as being worthwhile to them because if 3D catches on as an industry standards, their going to be the ones in the best position to tap it overall.

Looking at things like PSP Vs. DS and so on, is a very limited perspective.

Microsoft is a software producer first and foremost, and while ginormous they are limited in scope. Hardware like the 360 is relatively new for them. Nintendo has a very niche role being exclusively aimed at video games. Sony on the other hand is into everything from producing TVs and video players, to video games and game decks, to producing rice cookers, to running movie and music production companies. One of the scary things about Sony is that not many people know how big they are since they are one of the congolmerates that inspired all of those dystopian corperate future stories. A lot of people think Microsoft is bigger, but at the same time nobody really knows all of what Sony controls.

Nintendo will make 3d video games, even if they dominate in that arena, Sony is probably going to out perform them by producing 3d movies, and specialized technologies to view them. They are big enough where they can see a competitor's success in one market as being akin to free advertising for other markets.
 

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CKalvin said:
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Korten12 said:
if they can make a screen for the ds that requires no glasses, why dont they just make tvs that do the same? :p
From what I understand, the 3DS uses camera to track the players eyes so it can make the image be at the correct angle for the 3D effect to work. This can only work with one person, so putting it on things made to be enjoyed by multiple people like TVs and theater screens is impossible.
Woah where did you get that info from?

Sounds like that's gonna sap a lot of battery =(

And the glasses sound like a very VERY expensive proposition at 180 bucks a pop, I could get a pair of ACTUAL glasses for that. I'm assuming these aren't the same as the ones you get in 3D movies?
I actually made a topic asking that, and that is what somebody told me.
 

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ZippyDSMlee said:
Low Key said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
Low Key said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
The PS3 is still not making a profit yet and their other divisions are not in that great a shape.
Hmm...that's probably why they like Nintendo doing their part to promote 3D, doncha think? Perhaps it might lead to 3D TVs selling...maybe???
Well the more people who buy inferior nintendo products the more they will put up with Sony electronics.
/Snob




(hehehehehehehehhe)
I have an Xbox 360 and a Panasonic TV, so I guess I wouldn't know. :p
Yes you would you have a easy brake oven, What number are you on I'm on 3 if you count the sell off of my first console 3-4 years ago...I just got a newer unit a few months back.
Damn thing still sounds like its trying to hover when it reads a disc but other than that I can play for 4 or 5 hours and not have it fail up.
Sorry to hear that. I'm still on the first one I bought last February, though I don't play it too much. Maybe 4-6 hours a week if I'm lucky. I can still beat my friends at whatever game they put in though.
 

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Swifteye said:
Ehra said:
Swifteye said:
I really don't understand what's so great about 3D. it's really eluding me why everything is touting 3D like it means something. It's a novelty. Like drinking lots of soda because your in the coca cola factory. But you wouldn't want to have all those coke drinks at your house. Espesically beverly ughhh.
Sound use to be considered a novelty when it came to movies. Heck some studios at the time even said sound would be a failure, claiming that audiences wouldn't want to have to watch AND listen at the same time.
Are you kidding me with that comparison? Sound has added so many things to that meduim that entire movies are made and broken based on diaglogue and musical score. Your telling me that there will be movies that will become great bestseller hits that will enthrall and entertain the world merely because it is 3D. Bullpocky.
I'd like to introduce you to a little film called Avatar.
 

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I hate how gaming is becoming so gimmicky. The industry has taken the Apple approach of having all flair and no substance. I don't want 3D, I don't want motion controls. I like my old fashioned buttons and flat screens. Honestly, the more time that passes, the happier I am that I ditched consoles in favor of PC entirely. I don't have to deal with big corporations fighting over who can be the most gimmicky, who can win over the most casual gamers, and who can screw over most of their fanbase. I can just sit back and enjoy starcraft 2 and team fortress 2 on my 2D monitor with my trusty mouse and keyboard.


So needless to say, I'm not getting 3DS, I'm not getting Kinect, I'm not getting whatever PS3's thing is. It really is a shame to see how bleak the future of consoles is. Here's to hoping these technologies are colossal failures and the industry goes back to relying on quality games to sell their consoles rather than cheap gimmicks.
 

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3D is gimmick technology, and gimmick technology will be very popular for a very short period of time, until people realize that gimmicks don't make things better. For now 3D adds nothing to the gaming experience other than visual distractions (same with a 3D movie). From what I've seen so far, 3D is developers and producers misunderstanding the concept of 'immersion', or at least using it as an excuse to sell a gimmicky toy to children and technophiles.

A few examples of failed gimmicks:

FMV Games
"Virtual Reality"
Movies...in 3D!!! (original anaglyph version)
The Power Glove
The Virtual Boy

I'll tell you why Sony is happy about this, because they can judge consumer reaction and see if this is going to be a successful gimmick (like the Wii), or a failure (like The Virtual Boy). Personally my money is on the failure, because 3D adds exactly nothing to the experience. I find that 3D movies are actually much less immersive due to the distraction of the 3D gimmicks flying at you.
 

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Not G. Ivingname said:
CKalvin said:
Not G. Ivingname said:
Korten12 said:
if they can make a screen for the ds that requires no glasses, why dont they just make tvs that do the same? :p
From what I understand, the 3DS uses camera to track the players eyes so it can make the image be at the correct angle for the 3D effect to work. This can only work with one person, so putting it on things made to be enjoyed by multiple people like TVs and theater screens is impossible.
Woah where did you get that info from?

Sounds like that's gonna sap a lot of battery =(

And the glasses sound like a very VERY expensive proposition at 180 bucks a pop, I could get a pair of ACTUAL glasses for that. I'm assuming these aren't the same as the ones you get in 3D movies?
I actually made a topic asking that, and that is what somebody told me.
Im not %100 cause even Nintendo havent made it fully clear what tech they have used to make it posible. But to my knowledge the 3DS doesnt have to track your eyes, it uses a special screen which means that it can make the image 3D BUT only veiwed from straight on and from a specific(ish) distance, therefore it works for a handheld which will be always veiwed straight on, and can be moved by the user for best effect... but not for a TV because it will be veiwed from a bunch of different angles and distances.

My source is the internet, so it is probable BS, but it makes more sense to me then camera eye tracking.
 

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Ergh... why is everyone so hyped up about 3d...

I suppose when the hologram fad comes around the 3d thing won't look so bad.
 

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I'm still not on the 3D bandwagon, but I guess no one cares.
I honestly couldn't care less about it either. I don't know how having it on a handheld is going to make the average game any better?

3D with a full cinema TV, yes, as it would help with the immersion, but I doubt seeing the monsters in 'Yet another Pokemon sidequest game 5' on a tiny screen is going to increase the gameplay tenfold.
 

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Not G. Ivingname said:
Tom Goldman said:
YES! We are glad our most well known competition is making an alternative that is several thousands of dollars cheaper and glasses free then what we want them to buy!
And by doing so is making 3D more mainstream meaning more people will be willing to fork out the thousands to get a new 3D tv.
 

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With Sony having a stake in 3D television technology of course they are hopeful that the idea of 3D will catch on. Just like everything else Sony hopes to corner the market on a format more than anything else. Blu Ray, Betamax, Video8, ATRAC (Walkman/Diskman), SD cards, Memory Stick... the list goes on.

If you want to buy into the hype that's fine. Just remember that there is a reason Sony hypes things and it's not always because the product is superior to other versions.