Sony to PS3 Detractors: Go Sell Razor Blades

[Sewblon]

I'm still wondering, what's up with all these analysts trying to predict when whatever it is will do whatever they think? If the PS3 drops its price, fine, if it doesn't, too bad. I have a hard time taking analysts seriously when they try to predict the craziest things even when the company themselves deny it repeatedly.

This isn't to say that Sony shouldn't drop the price of the PS3, they should, but for god's sake stop bitching and moaning about it. It'll happen when it'll happen. I havn't heard this much moaning since MGS4 on 360 rumours spouted out.

I figured out that the analysts were talking out of their asses when Nintendo emerged on the corpses of defunct hardware businesses holding high the money of old people and little children.

 

[scotth266]

My sentiments exactly. I'm not interested in the Blu-ray at this time and am just not willing to fork over the extra money. I had a PS1 and a PS2, but went with the Xbox 360 this time around simply because of price.

So you honestly have no interest in LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4, or Killzone 2?

Who DOESN'T have intrest in these games? The point he's trying to make is: the 360/Wii is cheaper and has at LEAST the same amount of gaming goodness. So why buy something pricier?

As a PS3 owner with a HDTV, I could care less about Blu ray, I didn't buy it for Blu ray. I bought it because it had a built in wireless, hard drive, rechargable controllers, a low failure rate, and free online content. I don't have to pay $50 a year to play Warhawk (which is roughly the PS3 equivalanet to Halo 3). Blu ray is more of a bonus, not a major selling point.

The cheapest Xbox is $199. Once you add in a HD ($70-$150), a wireless network adapter ($50), pay for Xbox live ($50/year), hybrid rayovack NiMH Alkaline batteries ($10) you are already up to $380. A whopping $19 difference from the cheapest PS3. Then if you purchase Xbox live for another year, you are over the price of the PS3.

This is what I mean with the wrong value approach (BTW, I got my 360 Pro for 200€ with the 60GB HDD, operate the thing with a LAN cable and a wired controller I had bought for my PC earlier and don't bother with Live because I know I won't play online enough to justify the cost, only problem is getting enough games for the system to actually justify the hardware cost since it seems to be lacking in interesting games). Feature parity is not a valid comparison because most customers do not attempt to reach feature parity. How many people actually need a WiFi bridge on the thing? How many people need to buy the HDD separate when the Pro already includes it for a very low price difference? How many people actualy get Live Gold? Hell, how many people actually hook their console up to the internet? If the people who do all that are a majority of your audience that means your audience is too small, too focussed.

And hell, even if the PS3 beats the 360, what kind of victory is that? "Yay we've gone from breaking the record for most consoles sold to a fight for second place"? As EA notes, their support is going to the Wii, not the 360. The PS3 doesn't have to beat the 360, the two are so similar almost any game made for one will be available on the other too, they're effectively one market. The Wii is the odd one out, it needs special games while also holding a massive chunk of the market (even if you assume zero overlap between 360 and PS3 owners the Wii market is the same size as the two combined, with overlap it's even larger). The PS3 has no chance against the Wii in the current situation.

HIs pricing is off in more ways than one. In case he failed to notice, LIVE gold pays for ALL your online games content. So if you have an extensive multiplayer library you getting your money's worth. And if you don't, well, that's your problem. Question: If you don't have a spare 50 bucks, how the heck did you get that 400$ console?

Live: It's still cheaper than WoW!

Also, if you love recharging contollers that much, just get some rechargable batteries. 0_0
In addition, Blue-Ray is a MAJOR selling point for the PS3. It costs big bucks by itself, after all. The players I found cost 180$. That's not cheap.

As for low failure rates, so what? Repairs are free as long as you're in warrenty, as long as I'm not mistaken. If you fail to renew it, that's your fault.

 

[Jumplion]

I think I finaly found out what CantFakeTheFunk's avatar is now.

 

[Programmed_For_Damage]

Metal Gear Solid 4 is a Blu-ray disc full of movies with a few game play segments scattered here and there. Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 are both inferior to Gears of War 2 and Halo 3. Most other PS3 games can also be had on the 360. That leaves only LittleBigPlanet as a killer exclusive for the PS3. Your opinions of that game aside, that's still only ONE killer exclusive.

So you never played MGS4, Either Killzone II or Resistance II, and only know that the 360 doesn't have something like LBP yet.

Also you missed Folklore, Valkyria Chronicles, Ratchet and Clank, Warhawk, Disgaea 3, Uncharted, Noby Noby Boy, Eye of Judgement, Genji, Lumines Supernova, Nova Strike, Gran Turismo, Yakuza 3.

Not to mention up coming God of War 3, FFXIII 13 Versus, inFamous, Ratchet and Clank Future 2, Uncharted 3, Super Robot Wars, Shin Megami Tensai, Massive Action Game, Resistance 3, Sly Cooper, The Super Hero MMO, all the other MMO there releasing on it, Beyond Good and Evil 2, Fat Princess.
Possible Jak and Daxter, Dark Cloud 3, Legend of Dragoon 2, a Tales of game, Persona, .Hack, and Kingdom Hearts 3

And keep in mind these are only the ones I remember, and can you see the variety? we have SRPGs, Sandbox, FPS, TPS, JRPGs, MMOs, Interactive games, Widgit games, Action RPGs, Platformers, and Action-Adventure all lined up here.

Totally nothing. Nope not one intresting or unique gem.

Oh wait thats right. I guess the 360 DOES have SRW XO, which was just a ported Gamecube game that tanked and thus probably shuns the 360 from Banpresto work. And well... Hm I guess Saints Row if you don't wanna play it's vastly superior sequel. Fabel 2's horrendous gameplay issues, not to mention design issues.

And of course that's only exclusive, you can get the same Multi-platform games the 360 has. OR you could buy the majority of 360 games on the PC, which really doesn't make them exclusives now does it?

They have Halo Wars I guess, but then if I ever wanted to screw myself by playing an RTS on a console I would get Command and Conquer 3 and use the PS3's supported Keyboard and mouse.

WAKE UP PEOPLE! It is NOT 2006 anymore! You are blinding yourself with prejudice, hatred, and probably shallow pockets. Which is PERFECTLY FINE! Nobody is saying you have to buy a PS3, I'm not saying it and frankly if your stance is to wait for a price cut, wait for the damn price cut that's good for you!

But when you make stupid ridiculous posts as the one I quoted your just insulting, my intelligence, your own intelligence, and the intelligence of everyone reading. ALL consoles have good games that make them stand out. If you say otherwise you are an idiot, a blind idiot locked in dislike of a product!

As for Blu-Ray I personally don't own any movies.

But if this is an indication it is a NOTICABLE difference.

*removed*

Animation from the 80's people, big difference. At least for animated works. (I used Zeta Gundam as the Example cause I couldn't find many other comparison videos using Animation)

Of all those games you listed you missed the only one that possibly interests me and might make me get a PS3; Heavy Rain.

Just goes to show you that just because you think some games are brilliant, doesn't mean others think likewise. Indigo's above post is case and point.

 

[Brotherofwill]

I am still dazzled at people saying that the PS is a glorified Blu-Ray player. There are all the games that both plattforms can run, plus the exclusives. If you want to spend a large time playing Gears of War, Halo or Fable and other X-box/PC exclusives that's fine but please just stop saying that there are no games out for the PS because that is just plain silly.

Metal Gear Solid 4 is a Blu-ray disc full of movies with a few game play segments scattered here and there. Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 are both inferior to Gears of War 2 and Halo 3. Most other PS3 games can also be had on the 360. That leaves only LittleBigPlanet as a killer exclusive for the PS3. Your opinions of that game aside, that's still only ONE killer exclusive.

No offense, but that post is pretty useless and stupid. Nice to know that you prefer Gears of War and Halo, but I doubt you have spend serious time with any of the 4 PS games you named, since you don't own the system. By your logic the Xbox only has 2 killer exclusives, and since a lot of people hate the over-hyped Halo maybe just 1 killer-exclusive.

Why aren't we beyond this useless shit? Since the Sega/Nintendo era we haven't exacly progressed much as a culture...

 

[Simriel]

*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)

Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.

Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!

 

[nova18]

Whatever happened to the phrase "You get what you payed for"?.
Im not trying to start a flame war about which console is best, but the PS3 is a GOOD CONSOLE.

The online service is free, works just as well as the other console (I have tested them all) and is capable of running some excellent games. I managed to afford one and I dont have a lot of cash, but I have never doubted my purchase as there are already a few gems that are well worth playing on the console.

The developers just need to realise that if they spend the time and effort making a great game for the PS3, that it will make them a tidy profit. MGS4 made Sony and Konami a stack of cash since its release, Im guessing Killzone will do the same.

Sony should stick to their guns, because out of the 3 companies left still making consoles, they make up the 2/3 of companies that I still respect as a gamer. I'll leave it to you to guess what I think is the 1/3 that I dislike

 

[shial]

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?weekly=1

http://journal.pcvsconsole.com/?thread=8498

I don't get it. All the critics are being idiots. No one said the 360 was doing badly a year ago, so why is the PS3 being savaged for 'bad sales' when in fact it's outperforming the Xbox 360 if you take the year headstart that Microsoft had into considertion.
Looks like people are just looking at the figures and nothing else. If sales carry on this way, the PS3 will outsell the 360...And that's a bad sign how?

Actually the figures you linked are the opposite of what your argueing. from Oct08 - Feb09 Xbox gained 6million units, PS3 gained 4.45 xbox360 has about a 7.2 million lead on PS3. Given they have a replacement program in place and the quality is much improved that means these aren't replacement units but new sales. XBox360 also has a major advantage in having a broad and well established online gaming network, PS3 has... Home?

Oh ya, and if the big deal about the PS3 is the blue ray player how many of these units are being bought as a game machine as opposed to a glorified blue-ray player? I haven't seen any figures on this and this could cut back the numbers that developers have to work with.

Personally though I havn't gotten any current generation system yet. I have not seen anything besides Dead rising that I really feel like I absolutly need to get.

 

[y8c616]

Stubborn Sony. If you had priced your console reasonably then I probably would own a PS3 rather than a 360 right now. I simply will not pay extra for blu-ray when I have no interest in it. Shame, but oh well.

Its way more than just blu ray that the ps3 has going for it; i have 5-6 friends who were either die hard Wii or 360 fans, who subsequently bought a ps3 (for exclusive titles like MGS4 and FFVS13) and they all wondered why the hell they didnt get a ps3 in the first place. All other gamers stuck on other systems would no doubt feel this way if they put aside fanboyism (such as generic remarks about the ps3 only "having blu ray in its favour" ) and bought the tecnically best system, which also offers the best value for money

 

[Jumplion]

*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)

Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.

Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!

Ummm, yeah? What, are you trying to be clever, it's common knowledge that Indigo_Dingo is the president of the PS3 fanboys division. We're having trouble with the PC division, and we don't have anyone in the 360 or Wii division so far. Want to join up? We've got excellent dental plans and 401k's!

But if I may note something for a bit, I see that people are saying that hte PS3 has no good games. The problem is is that you people are mixing up games that you're not interested in with games the PS3 has overall. Omni made a large list on Ps3 exclusive games, but someone said "Only one of them interests me.", but that wasn't his point on the whole list. It doesn't matter if you personally don't have an interest in it, but nobody can deny any longer that the PS3 has games. You can deny that you don't have an personal interst in those games, but the volume is still there, you can't deny that.

People are stuck in 2006, flip over the 6 and you'll have the current situation. It may not be flowers and daisies for the PS3, but it sure is a hell of a lot better than it was in 2006.