Sony to PS3 Detractors: Go Sell Razor Blades

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Indigo_Dingo said:
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Machines Are Us said:
Stubborn Sony. If you had priced your console reasonably then I probably would own a PS3 rather than a 360 right now. I simply will not pay extra for blu-ray when I have no interest in it. Shame, but oh well.
My sentiments exactly. I'm not interested in the Blu-ray at this time and am just not willing to fork over the extra money. I had a PS1 and a PS2, but went with the Xbox 360 this time around simply because of price.
So you honestly have no interest in LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4, or Killzone 2?
I know this wasn't addressed at me, but I'll answer anyway. I'm interested in MGS4 and vaguely interested in Killzone 2, but not enough to buy a whole new console. By the way, congrats on the 10,000th post.
 

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matrix3509 said:
What this article is esentially saying is that the major developers are starting to realize the Wii's potential, and as such, are starting to develop games for it. Whereas with Sony, who seems determined to go bankrupt through ignorant/arrogant business decisions, will only continue to lose money as developers realize that they have no incentive to spend the extra effort to program games for it.

Why spend twice the deveoplent time to make half the money on a PS3 when you can spend half the development time and make twice the money on the Wii?
Look, the PS3 is already selling at a loss in the first place. I understand how everyone wants a price drop, but it's a stupid decision either way. If they drop the price, they lose more money in favor of possibly getting it back. If they don't, they have a better chance at recouperating their loses but they piss off the consumer, and the consumer are a bunch of bipolar weirdos who will probably still complain about the Ps3's price point even if it does get lowered.

They're damned if they do and damned if they don't, just be patient and wait it out. If they don't drop it, fine, but don't moan and groan at how they're making "dumb decisions" when they're tying their best to make some god damn money in one way or another.
 

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You can't expect a Ferrari for the price of a 1982 pickup truck. If you want amazing sometimes you have to pay a little more.
 

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Frank_Sinatra_ said:
You can't expect a Ferrari for the price of a 1982 pickup truck. If you want amazing sometimes you have to pay a little more.
Nice line... but in this case I'd be more interested in the pickup truck. Can't afford the sports car, and I'd use the truck more often in any case.

-- Steve
 

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Anton P. Nym said:
Frank_Sinatra_ said:
You can't expect a Ferrari for the price of a 1982 pickup truck. If you want amazing sometimes you have to pay a little more.
Nice line... but in this case I'd be more interested in the pickup truck. Can't afford the sports car, and I'd use the truck more often in any case.

-- Steve
How about a brand new pickup?
 

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Simriel said:
Indigo_Dingo said:
Simriel said:
*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)
Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.
Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!
Duly rung. Now arm those torpedos!

Indigo_Dingo said:
Because one has a future, and one doesn't. Lets just look at this years upcoming releases of pure and untapped awesome for the Ps3. You have God Of War III, Gran Turismo 5, MAG, White Knight Chronicles, God of War III, Heavy Rain, God of War III, inFAMOUS, God Of War III, Singstar Queen (people keep omitting it, and I don't begrudge that - it is Singstar, after all - but its still built around the works of the best group for random singing ever, Queen. I cannot count the number of times a group of friends and I have burst into spontaneous Bohemian Rhapsody's), God Of War III, and a fair amount of damn cool downloadable games. If you look at the 360, you've got jack shit, unless Alan Wake suprises everyone. The Ps3 has far greater potential for awesome than the 360, and is showing it in spades.
Simriel said:
Indigo_Dingo said:
Simriel said:
*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)
Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.
Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!
So its okay, even praiseable when he does it, but not when I point out the logical implications of what he's saying? Can you say hypocrite?
Ok, your response to Simriel's thing had absolutely NO logic behind it. You DENIED that the 360 has any good games, while he allowed for the fact that the PS3 does. This is the reason why he is a angry consumer, whilst you are a fanboy, and the reason why I support the sounding of the alarm. Your post was essentially a flame, and if you want to be taken seriously, you should type stuff other than "LOL 360 IS TEH SUX", which was all I managed to get from your response to him.

Now to your response to my post. You seem to have forgotten that logic is supreme, and logic dicates thus:

The quality of games to be released in the future cannot be given as an arguement, because these games have yet to be released. Unless you have psychic powers and can see the future, disdain from using future releases as an argument for the superiority of a system.

Also, you used GoW3 a few too many times.

Using MAG, inFAMOUS, and White Knight Chronicles was also a bad idea. These are UNPROVEN franchises, and could easily go the way of the dinosaur. And a freakin' karoake game? No matter how good it is, I doubt people will flock to the PS3 for what is essentially some singalong songs.


(Please note: I'm actually a huge fan of karaoke games. I'm just EXTREMELY sceptical that Joe gamer will flock to the black monolith for an exclusive one.)

As for DLC, the 360 has a big lead in terms of good games on Arcade, though I'll give you the fact that Sony has been doing a lot to close the gap.
 

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Frank_Sinatra_ said:
You can't expect a Ferrari for the price of a 1982 pickup truck. If you want amazing sometimes you have to pay a little more.
Uurrr...Dont compare a Console to a car which is only sold to rich people.

The thing is that a Ferrari is made for the super rich which have money to pay for the car and the juice to make it run. And Ferrari is backed by a big commercial company that is Fiat.

While the PS3 is not made for super rich people...they made for..hmm oh yeah GAMERS!!! And gamers most of the time are people that dont have much money. :p

Also the massive flaw in Sony's plan was not to have a big and extensive list of games right on release. Xbox 360 had Halo 3 and backward compatibility. If not wrong the PS3 had no BIG name that would standout of the crowd and little or no backward compatibility.
 

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scotth266 said:
Simriel said:
Indigo_Dingo said:
Simriel said:
*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)
Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.
Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!
Duly rung. Now arm those torpedos!

Indigo_Dingo said:
Because one has a future, and one doesn't. Lets just look at this years upcoming releases of pure and untapped awesome for the Ps3. You have God Of War III, Gran Turismo 5, MAG, White Knight Chronicles, God of War III, Heavy Rain, God of War III, inFAMOUS, God Of War III, Singstar Queen (people keep omitting it, and I don't begrudge that - it is Singstar, after all - but its still built around the works of the best group for random singing ever, Queen. I cannot count the number of times a group of friends and I have burst into spontaneous Bohemian Rhapsody's), God Of War III, and a fair amount of damn cool downloadable games. If you look at the 360, you've got jack shit, unless Alan Wake suprises everyone. The Ps3 has far greater potential for awesome than the 360, and is showing it in spades.
Simriel said:
Indigo_Dingo said:
Simriel said:
*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)
Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.
Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!
So its okay, even praiseable when he does it, but not when I point out the logical implications of what he's saying? Can you say hypocrite?
Ok, your response to Simriel's thing had absolutely NO logic behind it. You DENIED that the 360 has any good games, while he allowed for the fact that the PS3 does. This is the reason why he is a angry consumer, whilst you are a fanboy, and the reason why I support the sounding of the alarm. Your post was essentially a flame, and if you want to be taken seriously, you should type stuff other than "LOL 360 IS TEH SUX", which was all I managed to get from your response to him.

Now to your response to my post. You seem to have forgotten that logic is supreme, and logic dicates thus:

The quality of games to be released in the future cannot be given as an arguement, because these games have yet to be released. Unless you have psychic powers and can see the future, disdain from using future releases as an argument for the superiority of a system.

Also, you used GoW3 a few too many times.

Using MAG, inFAMOUS, and White Knight Chronicles was also a bad idea. These are UNPROVEN franchises, and could easily go the way of the dinosaur. And a freakin' karoake game? No matter how good it is, I doubt people will flock to the PS3 for what is essentially some singalong songs.


(Please note: I'm actually a huge fan of karaoke games. I'm just EXTREMELY sceptical that Joe gamer will flock to the black monolith for an exclusive one.)

As for DLC, the 360 has a big lead in terms of good games on Arcade, though I'll give you the fact that Sony has been doing a lot to close the gap.
I'm also arming phasers. And thank you for the agreement and the recognition that i defending the product which i own is NOT being a fanboy. I am well aware of the flaws in the 360. Hell mines went arse up after 8 days. Had to get a new one. The PS3 is technologically superior in every way. BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY GAMES I BLOODY WANT TO PLAY! Can you PS3 fanboys understand that? I don't WANT realistic shooters up the arse, and i HATE racing games. And i have never played Gods Of War.
 

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oliveira8 said:
Frank_Sinatra_ said:
You can't expect a Ferrari for the price of a 1982 pickup truck. If you want amazing sometimes you have to pay a little more.
Uurrr...Dont compare a Console to a car which is only sold to rich people.

The thing is that a Ferrari is made for the super rich which have money to pay for the car and the juice to make it run. And Ferrari is backed by a big commercial company that is Fiat.

While the PS3 is not made for super rich people...they made for..hmm oh yeah GAMERS!!! And gamers most of the time are people that dont have much money. :p

Also the massive flaw in Sony's plan was not to have a big and extensive list of games right on release. Xbox 360 had Halo 3 and backward compatibility. If not wrong the PS3 had no BIG name that would standout of the crowd and little or no backward compatibility.
Hmm... So now I can't compare the PS3 to a air conditioner. The point of analogies is to well analogize...
 

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Frank_Sinatra_ said:
oliveira8 said:
Frank_Sinatra_ said:
You can't expect a Ferrari for the price of a 1982 pickup truck. If you want amazing sometimes you have to pay a little more.
Uurrr...Dont compare a Console to a car which is only sold to rich people.

The thing is that a Ferrari is made for the super rich which have money to pay for the car and the juice to make it run. And Ferrari is backed by a big commercial company that is Fiat.

While the PS3 is not made for super rich people...they made for..hmm oh yeah GAMERS!!! And gamers most of the time are people that dont have much money. :p

Also the massive flaw in Sony's plan was not to have a big and extensive list of games right on release. Xbox 360 had Halo 3 and backward compatibility. If not wrong the PS3 had no BIG name that would standout of the crowd and little or no backward compatibility.
Hmm... So now I can't compare the PS3 to a air conditioner. The point of analogies is to well analogize...
The point of analogies is to make good analogies. Using a Ferrari to compare with a PS3 is wrong. If you used a Porshe which is car for the people that have more money than the commun folk it would be more accurate. :p
 

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Onmi said:
level250geek said:
Dear God the Sony fanboys are out in force tonight.
You said something stupid, and you were called on it.

Say something relativly intelligent and stop insulting everyone else on the board

scotth266 said:
Simriel said:
Indigo_Dingo said:
Simriel said:
*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)
Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.
Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!
Duly rung. Now arm those torpedos!

Indigo_Dingo said:
Because one has a future, and one doesn't. Lets just look at this years upcoming releases of pure and untapped awesome for the Ps3. You have God Of War III, Gran Turismo 5, MAG, White Knight Chronicles, God of War III, Heavy Rain, God of War III, inFAMOUS, God Of War III, Singstar Queen (people keep omitting it, and I don't begrudge that - it is Singstar, after all - but its still built around the works of the best group for random singing ever, Queen. I cannot count the number of times a group of friends and I have burst into spontaneous Bohemian Rhapsody's), God Of War III, and a fair amount of damn cool downloadable games. If you look at the 360, you've got jack shit, unless Alan Wake suprises everyone. The Ps3 has far greater potential for awesome than the 360, and is showing it in spades.
Simriel said:
Indigo_Dingo said:
Simriel said:
*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)
Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.
Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!
So its okay, even praiseable when he does it, but not when I point out the logical implications of what he's saying? Can you say hypocrite?
Ok, your response to Simriel's thing had absolutely NO logic behind it. You DENIED that the 360 has any good games, while he allowed for the fact that the PS3 does. This is the reason why he is a angry consumer, whilst you are a fanboy, and the reason why I support the sounding of the alarm. Your post was essentially a flame, and if you want to be taken seriously, you should type stuff other than "LOL 360 IS TEH SUX", which was all I managed to get from your response to him.

Now to your response to my post. You seem to have forgotten that logic is supreme, and logic dicates thus:

The quality of games to be released in the future cannot be given as an arguement, because these games have yet to be released. Unless you have psychic powers and can see the future, disdain from using future releases as an argument for the superiority of a system.

Also, you used GoW3 a few too many times.

Using MAG, inFAMOUS, and White Knight Chronicles was also a bad idea. These are UNPROVEN franchises, and could easily go the way of the dinosaur. And a freakin' karoake game? No matter how good it is, I doubt people will flock to the PS3 for what is essentially some singalong songs.


(Please note: I'm actually a huge fan of karaoke games. I'm just EXTREMELY sceptical that Joe gamer will flock to the black monolith for an exclusive one.)

As for DLC, the 360 has a big lead in terms of good games on Arcade, though I'll give you the fact that Sony has been doing a lot to close the gap.
GoW comes from a franchise thats extremly successful and not changing anything much so why would he not use it? White Knight Chronicles IS out so it's valid. And I posted a huge list of released, confirmed to come and possibilities.

Also Simrel is angry because his girlfriend and him had to break up. But then Indigo is a Fanboy, problem with that is it's not an insult, he wears it with pride.
Don't use cheap shots in a forum, it degrades everyone involved.

Since I haven't heard nary a whisper about WKC, I can't say much about its marketing...and then why did he put that in his future releases?
My post said he used GoW3 too many times, not that he use used it at all, btw.
If you cared to look, the 360 has loads of stuff coming too. I won't post it (due to being lazy) but if you cared to look you'll find plenty coming from MS as well as Sony.

Being a fanboy means you are being illogical. Hence the reason I despise all of them.
 

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My crystal ball says that with all the major game developers now (finally) on board nintendo will have a new and beefer but still-properly-priced console, with full backwards compatibility and digital download transfers, on the market well before sony and microsoft-- and will reap the benefits.

I also suspect the next round of consoles will have less price disparity.