Sony Website Hacked By the "Lulz Boat"

[smithy1234]

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I don't doubt that LulzSec did in fact hack Sony. But the exact methods they used (and the time it took them to do so) is up in the air. Unless you can go to Sony Pictures right now and gather information with a SQL injection, it's...difficult to take LulzSec at face value. Especially when they've stated that their goal is to bring Sony down.

I never said that they have proof that they did a SQL injection. I said they had some proof.

And I was talking about their evidence that they did in fact hack them.

Well, noone is really denying that. (Besides that one guy who thinks Sony is hacking itself for some reason).

Clip (and myself) are referring to the truthfulness of the SQL injection statement, though. Not just that LulzSec hacked Sony.

Well like I said before. With the current information which seems to suggest that the hackers did in fact use that hack then yes Im somewhat blaming Sony for failing to protect their costumers data with basic protection. But if it turns up that Sony indeed had a very advanced system then I do not think there is any blame on Sony. No system is perfect and no system will ever be perfect (at least not with our current technology)

Bleh. Like I've mentioned, people on this very thread have detailed how to do a SQL injection. If you can go to Sony Pictures and use an SQL injection to gather information, I'll believe that Sony Pictures had shit security. If not, then I'll wait for the official statement from a security firm.

I would rather have an unbiased source then a company hired by Sony.
But that will probably never happen.


May I ask if you got any sources that would show that the hackers didnt use SQL injection?

Cause if you are arguin that Im wrong when you do not know the truth, kinda makes you wrong aswell cause you cannot know if Im right or wrong.

Can you argue that any amount of security would have stopped these attacks? that when a entire collective of People has made it there MISSION to take you down, that online security has any lasting effect?

last of all, your taking the word of ONLINE CRIMINALS. Your far beyond more wrong than i could ever be.

You're saying online criminals like people who commit crimes online are all terrible people, ever downloaded a song illegally before? Watched copyrighted movies online without consent by the companies themselves? If so I guess all my friends are criminals and 90% of the internet.

 

[Kopikatsu]

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I don't doubt that LulzSec did in fact hack Sony. But the exact methods they used (and the time it took them to do so) is up in the air. Unless you can go to Sony Pictures right now and gather information with a SQL injection, it's...difficult to take LulzSec at face value. Especially when they've stated that their goal is to bring Sony down.

I never said that they have proof that they did a SQL injection. I said they had some proof.

And I was talking about their evidence that they did in fact hack them.

Well, noone is really denying that. (Besides that one guy who thinks Sony is hacking itself for some reason).

Clip (and myself) are referring to the truthfulness of the SQL injection statement, though. Not just that LulzSec hacked Sony.

Well like I said before. With the current information which seems to suggest that the hackers did in fact use that hack then yes Im somewhat blaming Sony for failing to protect their costumers data with basic protection. But if it turns up that Sony indeed had a very advanced system then I do not think there is any blame on Sony. No system is perfect and no system will ever be perfect (at least not with our current technology)

Bleh. Like I've mentioned, people on this very thread have detailed how to do a SQL injection. If you can go to Sony Pictures and use an SQL injection to gather information, I'll believe that Sony Pictures had shit security. If not, then I'll wait for the official statement from a security firm.

I would rather have an unbiased source then a company hired by Sony.
But that will probably never happen.


May I ask if you got any sources that would show that the hackers didnt use SQL injection?

Cause if you are arguin that Im wrong when you do not know the truth, kinda makes you wrong aswell cause you cannot know if Im right or wrong.

Maybe English isn't your first language.

I'm saying that nobody knows anything.

It's actually possible to prove or disprove LulzSec's assertion. Go to Sony Pictures and try an SQL injection. If it works, then LulzSec is right and Sony's security is shit. If it doesn't work, then LulzSec is trying to make Sony look far worse than it deserves.

Just because a company hires a firm doesn't mean that the firm is going to be biased for the company. If it comes out that they lied in order to make their customer look better, there would be a formal investigation and they'd lose all credibility. Firms are all about credibility. No credibility means that noone would hire you, aaaaand you'd go bankrupt. Which is why I said that I'd wait for a security firm's report and not Sony's.

And Yes pretty much all basic security would have stopped an SQL injection and if they did pass thru then I would argue that having everything important encrypted would have saved a lot of headache and money.

Aaaaaand you're assuming that LulzSec is telling the truth without testing if a SQL injection would actually work...which you could actually do.

If so I guess all my friends are criminals and 90% of the internet.

Have a source to back that statistic up?

 

[MrTub]

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I don't doubt that LulzSec did in fact hack Sony. But the exact methods they used (and the time it took them to do so) is up in the air. Unless you can go to Sony Pictures right now and gather information with a SQL injection, it's...difficult to take LulzSec at face value. Especially when they've stated that their goal is to bring Sony down.

I never said that they have proof that they did a SQL injection. I said they had some proof.

And I was talking about their evidence that they did in fact hack them.

Well, noone is really denying that. (Besides that one guy who thinks Sony is hacking itself for some reason).

Clip (and myself) are referring to the truthfulness of the SQL injection statement, though. Not just that LulzSec hacked Sony.

Well like I said before. With the current information which seems to suggest that the hackers did in fact use that hack then yes Im somewhat blaming Sony for failing to protect their costumers data with basic protection. But if it turns up that Sony indeed had a very advanced system then I do not think there is any blame on Sony. No system is perfect and no system will ever be perfect (at least not with our current technology)

Bleh. Like I've mentioned, people on this very thread have detailed how to do a SQL injection. If you can go to Sony Pictures and use an SQL injection to gather information, I'll believe that Sony Pictures had shit security. If not, then I'll wait for the official statement from a security firm.

I would rather have an unbiased source then a company hired by Sony.
But that will probably never happen.


May I ask if you got any sources that would show that the hackers didnt use SQL injection?

Cause if you are arguin that Im wrong when you do not know the truth, kinda makes you wrong aswell cause you cannot know if Im right or wrong.

Can you argue that any amount of security would have stopped these attacks? that when a entire collective of People has made it there MISSION to take you down, that online security has any lasting effect?

last of all, your taking the word of ONLINE CRIMINALS. Your far beyond more wrong than i could ever be.

You're saying online criminals like people who commit crimes online are all terrible people, ever downloaded a song illegally before? Watched copyrighted material online? If so I guess all my friends are criminals and 90% of the internet.

Everybody on the Internet have seen copyrighted material.

 

[sleeky01]

I really don't get this. "Sony's security is inept! Please pay us money so we can trash your privacy and tear down their walls to show how inept they are, rather than simply telling them and demanding better!"

No kidding. Come on lulzsec/lulzboat/lulzdouche you're going about this all wrong. If you're looking to us to finance you you're looking in the wrong place.

Here I'll give you a hint:

https://www.bankofamerica.com/
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/
http://www.arabbank.com/default.aspx

You want a real challange?

http://www.pbc.gov.cn/

Take your pick.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

With way things are going, if they keep this up for the whole year, I predict that by the start of next year Sony will be dead or in the final stages of company failure.

Who can could possibly stick by a company that has had plenty of time to counteract against the problem and defend itself, but they clearly aren't taking this thing seriously.

At the pace that Sony is trying to work out these problems, one would think that they have just one man trying to fix the whole thing, though my money is on that they hired a poo-flinging monkey.

 

[Kopikatsu]

You want a real challenge?

http://www.pbc.gov.cn/

Take your pick.

Uuuuuh...http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2011/05/30/pbs-hacked-after-critical-wikileaks-show/

At the pace that Sony is trying to work out these problems, one would think that they have just one man trying to fix the whole thing, though my money is on that they hired a poo-flinging monkey.

They hired at least three different security firms. Anything security-wise that goes wrong from here on out, I would blame on one or more of the firms.

 

[jpoon]

Hah, this is hilarious. Sony will never have a credit card from me again, they ($ony corp) are quite obviously morons of pretty high order.

 

[MrTub]

Snip

I don't doubt that LulzSec did in fact hack Sony. But the exact methods they used (and the time it took them to do so) is up in the air. Unless you can go to Sony Pictures right now and gather information with a SQL injection, it's...difficult to take LulzSec at face value. Especially when they've stated that their goal is to bring Sony down.

I never said that they have proof that they did a SQL injection. I said they had some proof.

And I was talking about their evidence that they did in fact hack them.

Well, noone is really denying that. (Besides that one guy who thinks Sony is hacking itself for some reason).

Clip (and myself) are referring to the truthfulness of the SQL injection statement, though. Not just that LulzSec hacked Sony.

Well like I said before. With the current information which seems to suggest that the hackers did in fact use that hack then yes Im somewhat blaming Sony for failing to protect their costumers data with basic protection. But if it turns up that Sony indeed had a very advanced system then I do not think there is any blame on Sony. No system is perfect and no system will ever be perfect (at least not with our current technology)

Bleh. Like I've mentioned, people on this very thread have detailed how to do a SQL injection. If you can go to Sony Pictures and use an SQL injection to gather information, I'll believe that Sony Pictures had shit security. If not, then I'll wait for the official statement from a security firm.

I would rather have an unbiased source then a company hired by Sony.
But that will probably never happen.


May I ask if you got any sources that would show that the hackers didnt use SQL injection?

Cause if you are arguin that Im wrong when you do not know the truth, kinda makes you wrong aswell cause you cannot know if Im right or wrong.

Maybe English isn't your first language.

I'm saying that nobody knows anything.

It's actually possible to prove or disprove LulzSec's assertion. Go to Sony Pictures and try an SQL injection. If it works, then LulzSec is right and Sony's security is shit. If it doesn't work, then LulzSec is trying to make Sony look far worse than it deserves.

Just because a company hires a firm doesn't mean that the firm is going to be biased for the company. If it comes out that they lied in order to make their customer look better, there would be a formal investigation and they'd lose all credibility. Firms are all about credibility. No credibility means that noone would hire you, aaaaand you'd go bankrupt. Which is why I said that I'd wait for a security firm's report and not Sony's.

I've posted before that english is in fact not my first language, I will not try to do an sql injection considering that is illegal and its late and I would have to read up on how to do it first.

Second part works great on papers but not in real life. I very much doubt that all security firms are honest. Cause you could argue the same thing about political figures & judges. Their credibility is all that should matter and yet a lot of them still takes bribes.

 

[wsmieszek]

Someone's getting fired.

 

[smithy1234]

Snip

I don't doubt that LulzSec did in fact hack Sony. But the exact methods they used (and the time it took them to do so) is up in the air. Unless you can go to Sony Pictures right now and gather information with a SQL injection, it's...difficult to take LulzSec at face value. Especially when they've stated that their goal is to bring Sony down.

I never said that they have proof that they did a SQL injection. I said they had some proof.

And I was talking about their evidence that they did in fact hack them.

Well, noone is really denying that. (Besides that one guy who thinks Sony is hacking itself for some reason).

Clip (and myself) are referring to the truthfulness of the SQL injection statement, though. Not just that LulzSec hacked Sony.

Well like I said before. With the current information which seems to suggest that the hackers did in fact use that hack then yes Im somewhat blaming Sony for failing to protect their costumers data with basic protection. But if it turns up that Sony indeed had a very advanced system then I do not think there is any blame on Sony. No system is perfect and no system will ever be perfect (at least not with our current technology)

Bleh. Like I've mentioned, people on this very thread have detailed how to do a SQL injection. If you can go to Sony Pictures and use an SQL injection to gather information, I'll believe that Sony Pictures had shit security. If not, then I'll wait for the official statement from a security firm.

I would rather have an unbiased source then a company hired by Sony.
But that will probably never happen.


May I ask if you got any sources that would show that the hackers didnt use SQL injection?

Cause if you are arguin that Im wrong when you do not know the truth, kinda makes you wrong aswell cause you cannot know if Im right or wrong.

Maybe English isn't your first language.

I'm saying that nobody knows anything.

It's actually possible to prove or disprove LulzSec's assertion. Go to Sony Pictures and try an SQL injection. If it works, then LulzSec is right and Sony's security is shit. If it doesn't work, then LulzSec is trying to make Sony look far worse than it deserves.

Just because a company hires a firm doesn't mean that the firm is going to be biased for the company. If it comes out that they lied in order to make their customer look better, there would be a formal investigation and they'd lose all credibility. Firms are all about credibility. No credibility means that noone would hire you, aaaaand you'd go bankrupt. Which is why I said that I'd wait for a security firm's report and not Sony's.

And Yes pretty much all basic security would have stopped an SQL injection and if they did pass thru then I would argue that having everything important encrypted would have saved a lot of headache and money.

Aaaaaand you're assuming that LulzSec is telling the truth without testing if a SQL injection would actually work...which you could actually do.

If so I guess all my friends are criminals and 90% of the internet.

Have a source to back that statistic up?

I'm not trying to be accurate about my statistic just trying to say that a large portion of the internet does download music illegally and unknowingly commits crimes online because the laws are so murky regarding sharing content online. Thus saying that internet criminals are all untrustworthy is like saying everyone who downloaded the new Lady Gaga single on PirateBay is a criminal...

 

[Kopikatsu]

With way things are going, if they keep this up for the whole year, I predict that by the start of next year Sony will be dead or in the final stages of company failure.

Who can could possibly stick by a company that has had plenty of time to counteract against the problem and defend itself, but they clearly aren't taking this thing seriously.

At the pace that Sony is trying to work out these problems, one would think that they have just one man trying to fix the whole thing, though my money is on that they hired a poo-flinging monkey.

hahahaha no. They will just dump the ps3. If you think "sony" the company will go down if the ps3 goes down, you don't know anything about sony. There market reach is so huge i wonder why they even bother with consoles that just make them lose money. They probably made or "had something to do with" half the shit in your house.

Uuuuuh...Sony Music and Sony Pictures are what's been being hacked. The entire company is under attack, not just the gaming department.

 

[sleeky01]

You want a real challenge?

http://www.pbc.gov.cn/

Take your pick.

Uuuuuh...http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2011/05/30/pbs-hacked-after-critical-wikileaks-show/

Oh for god sa...look at that link again would you?

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

...I'm sick of hackers as a whole.

Read my goddamn text:

Spoiler

[HEADING=1]YOU ARE NOT FUCKING HEROES[/HEADING]

.

No one will sing of your battles, no one will think of you as heroes out to help the littleman. All they see is a group of peopple willing and able to enter their private lives and steal their information.

Which you freaking idiots did, oh Noble of Noblemen.

So thanks, you exposed over a 1,000,000 people to identity theft. I hope you freaking proud of yourselves.

this, there is a special place on this planet for people like that, and i really hope they get gang raped in the process if/when they are caught, fuckers are fucking pieces of shit, if/when people get caught for this kind of crap, i'm not sure the measures, but they better be stained for life for doing something as fucking stupid as this kind of bullshit

 

[Dr. wonderful]

You guys are fukken naïve. "They're terrible people, stealing and releasing peoples personal information like that!" Oh yeah? Think about it from a different angle: if they would have simply hacked it again but not done anything, would this have had such an impact on people lives, would this have been so popular in the media? No, and that is, essentially, not a good thing, because if they would have just hacked it and told Sony, nothing would have fucking happened because Sony already got hacked and didn't bother improving their security. The only way to make them listen and do what needs to be done is to threaten the very core of their success: the PS3 users/owners. The fact that it happens so often now makes more and more people skeptical about buying a PS3. Of course, PS3=/=PSN, but keep in mind that the PSN is a pretty big source of greenbacks for Sony. Also, the fact that they're a bunch of /b/tards makes it all the more "enraging", while if they hadn't done anything with the information they would have probably been dismissed as "stupid kids".

"omg ppl's s3cret 1nfo bieng revealtd!!1! they shud be killd lol0l" you probably eat/ate meat that came from an animal that endured unimaginable amounts of pain in a factory farm just to provide for you, or you probably drive a car that emits toxic gases into the atmosphere, and you probably have some of your fecal matter currently floating, polluting the ocean. Personal identification information, pfff we have much bigger problems to worry about.

Also, hackers don't give a shit, if morales were an issue for them, Sony would not currently be naked on it's knees right now, choking on a massive, hairy black cock.


Fuck you all!

Thank you, come again!

 

[Kopikatsu]

You want a real challenge?

http://www.pbc.gov.cn/

Take your pick.

Uuuuuh...http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2011/05/30/pbs-hacked-after-critical-wikileaks-show/

Oh for god sa...look at that link again would you?

...Oh. I mistook the 'c' as an 's'. My bad. Why would that site be difficult to hack, though?

 

[Kopikatsu]

With way things are going, if they keep this up for the whole year, I predict that by the start of next year Sony will be dead or in the final stages of company failure.

Who can could possibly stick by a company that has had plenty of time to counteract against the problem and defend itself, but they clearly aren't taking this thing seriously.

At the pace that Sony is trying to work out these problems, one would think that they have just one man trying to fix the whole thing, though my money is on that they hired a poo-flinging monkey.

hahahaha no. They will just dump the ps3. If you think "sony" the company will go down if the ps3 goes down, you don't know anything about sony. There market reach is so huge i wonder why they even bother with consoles that just make them lose money. They probably made or "had something to do with" half the shit in your house.

Uuuuuh...Sony Music and Sony Pictures are what's been being hacked. The entire company is under attack, not just the gaming department.

and what about there clock and radio department, or tv department? or or watches, or calculators or the dvd players or the hundreds of other things that they make? Do you know that sony owns dozens opon dozens of other companies that sell a multitude of things ranging from clothes to who the fuck knows that aren't called "sony", but all the money goes to them anyway?

LulzSec's attacks are ongoing and, honestly, they probably won't stop Sownage until they slip up and some government agency picks them up. I'm actually stalking their Twitter to see what part of Sony they'll attack next, but it's still kind of ridiculous.

Sony will either be crushed and humiliated, or it'll survive to be the most secure company in the biz. Darwinism at it's finest.

 

[Frylock72]

This is the one of the things that would make me glad to deal with a regulated internet. "Ooh, look at me, I'm a tough guy, I'm going to hack Sony and say I'm doing it for the common good!" Seriously, fuck these guys, fuck Anonymous and fuck black hat hackers in general.

 

[ChocoFace]

Sony should REALLY start considering investing in security rather than lawyers.

 

[Madara XIII]

The Lulz Boat just sank what little confidence people had left in Sony.

Punfully Painy.....

Or was that Painfully Punny?

 

[MrTub]

With way things are going, if they keep this up for the whole year, I predict that by the start of next year Sony will be dead or in the final stages of company failure.

Who can could possibly stick by a company that has had plenty of time to counteract against the problem and defend itself, but they clearly aren't taking this thing seriously.

At the pace that Sony is trying to work out these problems, one would think that they have just one man trying to fix the whole thing, though my money is on that they hired a poo-flinging monkey.

hahahaha no. They will just dump the ps3. If you think "sony" the company will go down if the ps3 goes down, you don't know anything about sony. There market reach is so huge i wonder why they even bother with consoles that just make them lose money. They probably made or "had something to do with" half the shit in your house.

Uuuuuh...Sony Music and Sony Pictures are what's been being hacked. The entire company is under attack, not just the gaming department.

and what about there clock and radio department, or tv department? or or watches, or calculators or the dvd players or the hundreds of other things that they make? Do you know that sony owns dozens opon dozens of other companies that sell a multitude of things ranging from clothes to who the fuck knows that aren't called "sony", but all the money goes to them anyway?

LulzSec's attacks are ongoing and, honestly, they probably won't stop Sownage until they slip up and some government agency picks them up. I'm actually stalking their Twitter to see what part of Sony they'll attack next, but it's still kind of ridiculous.

Sony will either be crushed and humiliated, or it'll be the most secure company in the biz. Darwinism at it's finest.

You give them to much credit. a ddos and a hack cannot stop a manufacturing department. Nor can it stop the other dozens of ones working under sony.

When did they ever use a ddos?