Oh damn apparently you cannot read since I already said no system is perfect.Clipclop said:Yes, it shows me how deluded some poeple can be thinking any amount of security can withstand large organized attacks on a company. Thanks.Tubez said:Well that is great for me :=)Clipclop said:yea i'm sure. You keep crating those straw mans and backpeddles. Your the only one in this thread believing them.Tubez said:Good for you =) But I honestly do not care.Clipclop said:II don't care if you care. I'm telling you what you did.Tubez said:Meh call me a hypocrite I really do not care.Clipclop said:because if your going to hark on poeple for defending sony, you yourself cannot defend it. Thats called being a hypocrite.Tubez said:Why should I have to pick a side?Clipclop said:Quit bouncing back and forth. You complain people are defending sony in one post, than try to act like its not all their fault in the second.Tubez said:When did I insisted that Sony holds all the blame?Nieroshai said:When you insisted Sony holds ALL the blame. You didn't say they did something good, you said they did nothing wrong, if not in words but in open implication.Tubez said:Again when did I ever say that the hackers are doing something good?Nieroshai said:No, no, he actually makes a good point. Let's compare to the legal system. Just because the security guard was asleep at the museum, it's okay to go in and raid the place? That IS basically what you're saying. Besides, initially they were hacked by Anonymous, who hack the Pentagon for fun, so whether they were secure or not is moot. If you're being fired at by a tank, it doesn't even matter if you brought riot gear like you were ordered. Sure, blame Sony for not being secure. They messed up. But in no way does that make pilfering data an innocent thing. We keep looking at this from a hero-villain perspective, with Sony as the villain. Is it not conceivable that both parties are wrong?Tubez said:Why are you defending a corporation that clearly fails to use the basic protection for their customers?diggy140892 said:Why are you defending the hackers... Just why...Dexter111 said:They have no reason to lie, whereas SONY would have several.RoBi3.0 said:That is assuming what they are saying is true. As a rule I don't believe thieves. They stole thousands of peoples personal info how the acquired it is of little relevance passed the fact that they stole it.
Edit: Yes the only thing we as consumers can take from this is be carefull about what you put online.
Also they didn't do any of this for the money, they just did it for fun and humiliating SONY further or they wouldn't have put the data online.
I also find it funny that a lot of people seems to assume those people are from the US instead of Russia, Eastern Europe (Romania, Ukraine etc.) or Asia and that the "FBI" has any say in the matter.
I do think Sony holds some blame considering they didnt even encrypt the passwords and such (According to the info)
But I do know that no system is perfect and good hackers will find a way but if the hackers did use the method they claimed to use then I do think Sony holds some blame.
Pick a side.
I do not think Sony deserved to be hacked and in a perfect world you wouldnt need a protection against hackers but since this is the real world and therefor I think Sony failed to protect their customers data by not using encryptions and such.
TLDR: Hackers are bad but they do exist and you should try your best to come up with systems against them!
I've wrote my view on this, and I do not think hacking is alright but I do also think that you should protect your costumers data (which I think Sony clearly failed to do if the hackers used the methods they claimed to use)
You said "well poeple are defending sony" in response to why your still responding.
and than you TURN AROUND AND PARTIALLY DEFEND SONY.
Hypocrite by exact definition. sorry, just calling what I'm seeing.
When I wrote that part about people defending Sony I meant that they do not think Sony did anything wrong at all. But I guess you are going to call me lier now =)
And I do understand meant and wrote is two different things so I could see how that got you confused, but english is not my first language and a lot of people was quoting me.
And it shows a bit how deluded people are if they think corporations should be able to leave costumers data unprotected and expect everyone to be nice and not hack them ^^
And yeah, no encryption is really HUGE amount of security and since the hackers claims to hacked them with a very easy way shows just what a huge security they have =)
If it turns out that Sony indeed have a very advanced and extremely effective system then I do not think they should be blamed. But with the current information, they failed.