Sony: Wii Didn't Bring Gaming Into the Mainstream, PS2 Did

[Jumplion]

I like how both the Wii and DS have been rising faster then the PS2...

Wasn't my point at all, I don't doubt that the DS or Wii could outsell it. But even then, what other company can say they've sold over 150 million units and counting?

And no, Sony isn't different from any other company, they just have terrible PR.

We can all agree to that.

If Nintendo was to claim that the Wii is revolutionizing the industry, I'd also call them out on the bullshit... Granted if they made the same claim for the DS then there's one instance I'd actually agree with them. At least in the mobile games field.

I like to keep the handheld gaming department and the console gaming department more seperate than together, because obviously the Gameboy made handhelds more mainstream, but not necessarily games as a whole.

Despite the fact that the PS2 sold consistently well, the console didn't single handedly bring gaming to the mainstream, that is a ridiculous claim no matter which way you put it. Quite frankly I think other medias such as Television, Movies and Music have actually done more for bringing gaming to the mainstream.

And neither did Kaz claim it did so single handedly;

"I think that's the console that really broke the barrier from video games being just for video gamers into more of a mass market on a global basis," Hirai said. "Nintendo's obviously done a great job in following that mass acceptance."

They're still selling their PS2s and they've reached a huge global market, and just now they're breaking into the Latin America areas, something that few consoles have done, or at least done on a real commercial way. He even compliments Nintendo for following in that profitability. Where exactly does he say that they single handedly broke gaming for everyone?

 

[Captain Blackout]

Sony, just like damn near every other company anywhere near the gaming industry, suffers from the same damn flaw. It's run by ad execs, not gamers.

"But companies have to be run by intelligent business people!"

No, they don't. Get an intelligent gamer who knows how to hire CEO's and MBA's and whatnot and KEEP THEM IN THEIR PLACE! If you want to work in an industry based on entertainment or art, let the entertainers or artists have the final say and use the business people as advisors.

Somewhere in the march to unfettered capitalism we decided that capitalists should have the last say in every business. So now you have Sony and Microsoft and etc. etc. etc. (Mac doesn't count, they really are better than PC's for most things) making bold AD EXEC statements that we all look at and go HUH? Imagine that...

 

[Zer_]

*snip for space*

Kaz may not have directly said the PS2 was single handedly responsible bringing gaming to the mainstream, but it was strongly implied by them stating that "it wasn't the Wii that did it, it was the PS2". I agree with their former statement that the Wii didn't bring gaming to the mainstream, but the rest of it is a load of hogwash.

 

[The_Angry_Haruhist]

Sony can't go one day without humilating themselves, can they?

It's times like this that make me feel ashamed to own a PS3...

 

[PartyMonkey]

FUCK THE WII (I know it has nothing to do with it I just wanna say it!)

 

[tehroc]

Gameboy sold 118 million units at a time when games (according to this article) were not mainstream. It was Nintendo's best selling product for almost an entire decade.

 

[Jumplion]

*snip for space*

Kaz may not have directly said the PS2 was single handedly responsible bringing gaming to the mainstream, but it was strongly implied by them stating that "it wasn't the Wii that did it, it was the PS2". I agree with their former statement that the Wii didn't bring gaming to the mainstream, but the rest of it is a load of hogwash.

Bah, hogwash shmogwash, this is the same "Microsoft implied that MGS: Rising was exclusive!" only the roles are reversed. "Indirectly" or not, Kaz never claimed that the PS2 single handedly brought gaming to "mainstream", though I hardly believe he would be out of place to do so anyway.

 

[Worsle]

All this lets gang up on sony stuff does get more than a little tiring really. This is not as bad as the article about some palmtop limited edition thing marketed to rich morons people where bitching about but really I am rather bored of this. The Japanese ads earlier today getting all sorts of weird comments for something so simple (and better than the English ones) and now this is being blown out of all proportion. Can we make fun of other companies for a bit? I know I have never trusted Ubisoft, I am sure that swirly logo is up to something.

 

[Zer_]

All this lets gang up on sony stuff does get more than a little tiring really. This is not as bad as the article about some palmtop limited edition thing marketed to rich morons people where bitching about but really I am rather bored of this. The Japanese ads earlier today getting all sorts of weird comments for something so simple (and better than the English ones) and now this is being blown out of all proportion. Can we make fun of other companies for a bit? I know I have never trusted Ubisoft, I am sure that swirly logo is up to something.

I didn't mind the PS3 Slim ads... They were weird, but cool.

 

[Jeronus]

Oh yeah, SONY! If Nintendo hadn't rejected your CD player attachment for the SNES, there wouldn't even be a Playstation. TOP THAT!

 

[mikecoulter]

Of course the PS2 brought gaming to the masses. Everyone had a PS2! And now, people who don't have a Wii have a PS2 instead.

Go PS2... Even though I prefer my Gamecube now...

 

[Lord Thodin]

Ill agree PS2 made me that gamer i am today but i doubt it made it mainstream. I thought arcades made it mainstream. If we were going console mainstream SNES? maybe? Still the PS2 is worthy of noting as being a strong competitor of the mainstream bus-in-ess

 

[Lord Thodin]

Of course the PS2 brought gaming to the masses. Everyone had a PS2! And now, people who don't have a Wii have a PS2 instead.

Go PS2... Even though I prefer my Gamecube now...

Cause the Wiis a disappointment?

 

[Snowalker]

i agree, i suppose. but in the end, who really cares about who brought gaming into the mainstream. the important thing is that it happened.

if only it hadn't, we could all be those cool kid living in their moms basemnet, adn be the envy of the regular kids. [/sarcasm]

 

[OmegaXIII]

I wish i could say i'm surprised at this kind of statement but i'm really really not.

My overwhelming thought on this matter however is this... Who gives a crap!? Gaming is gaming, , the more news i hear about it the more i wonder why these different niches keep getting created. The only divisions i really see are the Wii is a more family and child friendly console - circa Nintendo's business plan for the last gazillion years. Playstation 3 and 360 then share the more 'hardcore' (for great want of a better phrase) gamers. That said, those console respective groups will no doubt dabble in the others - with little attention for 'who started it all.'

I even find the 'Console war' a bit redundant, yes i know each company wants to maximise it's capital but seriously - each console is enjoyable in its own right and i find it is down to personal preference. Myself for example, i fully respect the Xbox 360 but i chose a PS3 because i like Sony and prefered its exclusives, that doesn't mean it's the best, it just means that's the one I wanted. Each console have inevitably end up with similar sized fan bases.

Is someone giving out cookies for the company who 'started a trend'? I really can't think of any other reason why anyone would care about this kind of statement.

Rant over

 

[mikecoulter]

Of course the PS2 brought gaming to the masses. Everyone had a PS2! And now, people who don't have a Wii have a PS2 instead.

Go PS2... Even though I prefer my Gamecube now...

Cause the Wiis a disappointment?

No, because the PS2 only really has lightweight, "casual" games released on it these days. Much like a majority of the games on the Nintendo Wii At what point of my post did I call the Wii a dissapointment?

 

[scotth266]

Snip.

I was using Asteroids under the idea that "bringing gaming to the mainstream" meant "bringing gaming to people who didn't make games": aka actually monetizing video gaming. Arcade cabinets were the first things to do that.

I may also be wrong about this, but I believe that the first Asteroids cabinet was installed in a bar.

 

[Lord Thodin]

Of course the PS2 brought gaming to the masses. Everyone had a PS2! And now, people who don't have a Wii have a PS2 instead.

Go PS2... Even though I prefer my Gamecube now...

Cause the Wiis a disappointment?

No, because the PS2 only really has lightweight, "casual" games released on it these days. Much like a majority of the games on the Nintendo Wii At what point of my post did I call the Wii a dissapointment?

Whoa whoa whoa, im just asking if thats why you preferred the Cube. Calm down. I understand what you mean now. jeez.