Sony: Wii Didn't Bring Gaming Into the Mainstream, PS2 Did
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Ugh that must have been to date the single most retarded comment by anybody said when it comes to gaming. Gaming was mainstream way before the PS2 was out, go ask Nolan Bushnell.
Ugh that must have been to date the single most retarded comment by anybody said when it comes to gaming. Gaming was mainstream way before the PS2 was out, go ask Nolan Bushnell.
I am glad you agree but you missed my point. Without Bushnell's marketing skills, Gaming in general would not be the way it is today. Even though he did not invent video games (I believe Ralph Baer did), but his marketing made him have the title of "The father of Video Games."Onmi said:
This is something that every company does, I'm not sure why Sony gets hit so hard every time that they do it. Microsoft is another company that does this pretty hard, especially within their console markets (they are backing off in the PC division). The biggest culprit that I never hear anyone complain about is Apple and their damned commercials, those irk me to absolutely no end, "Best performance at any price" my ass... Anyway, back to Sony, yes, they might be over flexing their e-peen, but seriously, what company doesn't try to over promote themselves at least some of the time.
Noone brought gaming "mainstream". You cant sell a console to a "non-gamer" any more than you can sell a car to someone who doesn't drive. Neither Sony nor Nintendo created the market for casual or mainstream games, they just cashed in on it. It's like EA saying they created the market for soccer games with FIFA 94 when it would be more accurate to say that the actual physical game of soccer created the market for soccer games.
This is all the natural evolution of a trend that is perpetuated by the consumers, and not the manufacturers, the PS2 was released at precisely the right time when more people were taking an interest in games, regardless of who was making what, and eventually the concept of games will evolve, and people's interest will move away and i guarantee Sony will be oblivious to the shift, missing the mark completely (MiniDisc anyone?)
Did you ever see MGM and WB arguing over whose films brought cinema to the masses ? Now cinema is a dying medium and one day it will happen to the concept of games consoles too.
Seriously to avoid this stupid fanboyism all consoles should be the same size and shape and color with the company's name in discreet lettering, should be modular and reverse-engineering enabled and all games should run on all brands to avoid any bid for a monopoly. And instead of trite, clichéd attempts at a trendy name, they should all be called something like "Personal Gaming Device". Oh....
This is all the natural evolution of a trend that is perpetuated by the consumers, and not the manufacturers, the PS2 was released at precisely the right time when more people were taking an interest in games, regardless of who was making what, and eventually the concept of games will evolve, and people's interest will move away and i guarantee Sony will be oblivious to the shift, missing the mark completely (MiniDisc anyone?)
Did you ever see MGM and WB arguing over whose films brought cinema to the masses ? Now cinema is a dying medium and one day it will happen to the concept of games consoles too.
Seriously to avoid this stupid fanboyism all consoles should be the same size and shape and color with the company's name in discreet lettering, should be modular and reverse-engineering enabled and all games should run on all brands to avoid any bid for a monopoly. And instead of trite, clichéd attempts at a trendy name, they should all be called something like "Personal Gaming Device". Oh....
Sorry if that has been said before (did not read the comments) but in my opinion:
- The Gameboy brought gaming into mainstream.
- The Playstation, manly the second one, created the first real "lifestyle" product (think IPod) of gaming and made at least some people recognize that a Game isn't a toy (even if it kinda is...ah well)
- The Wii was another "lifestyle" product in gaming that opened up a new circle of customers. While the Playstation was something "hip" or "cool" or whatever you want to call it, the Wii became (in the public eye) the first console that really delivered "fun for the whole family"
So i think Sony is not really wrong, but not really right either
- The Gameboy brought gaming into mainstream.
- The Playstation, manly the second one, created the first real "lifestyle" product (think IPod) of gaming and made at least some people recognize that a Game isn't a toy (even if it kinda is...ah well)
- The Wii was another "lifestyle" product in gaming that opened up a new circle of customers. While the Playstation was something "hip" or "cool" or whatever you want to call it, the Wii became (in the public eye) the first console that really delivered "fun for the whole family"
So i think Sony is not really wrong, but not really right either
I don't see how Nintendo brought gaming to the mainstream at all. In my opinion, Nintendo created its own "entertainment" for the mainstream. Games, before Nintendo, is more hardcore, even Tetris and Super Mario. Having "casual gaming" is not bringing games to mainstream, it's creating a new thing for the mainstream.
To me, the 360 has brought gaming to the mainstream just like the PS2 did. Bringing games to the mainstream is to introduce these hardcore games that gamers know and love to the mainstream.
To me, the 360 has brought gaming to the mainstream just like the PS2 did. Bringing games to the mainstream is to introduce these hardcore games that gamers know and love to the mainstream.
Only for a very loose definition of that. Selling to more countries doesn't make something more mainstream, it just increases the total population you're getting your buyers from but the rate of purchase (every third household) has remained constant for all pre-Wii gaming.Crimsane said:
Technically the partnership between Nintendo and Philips still concerned a CD-attachment for the SNES, but part of the agreement was that Philips would be allowed to release their own games based on the Mario and Zelda franchises on their separately developed CD-i.Jumplion said:
Ew...Onmi said:
I'll just say I prefer this one:
How in hell does a Copy Clerk know how to do that...SharedProphet said:
Meh. That is all I say. Why should I care, anyway, it is irrelevant.
Actually, it was the NES that brought gaming into the mainstream first. Considering at a certain point 40% of the American households had one.