SOPA Postponed "Indefinitely"

SenseOfTumour

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Irridium said:
beniki said:
Seriously, all they need to do is allow payments from outside their usual market zones, and I'm certain piracy will be cut in half... particularly in Russia and China. It's not like those countries don't like to spend money on games. Heck, some Chinese MMOs are basically fruit machines!

But more importantly, I WANT TO BUY A COPY OF SKYRIM!! :mad:
Hehe, actually, that's what Valve did.

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell

By offering a better service than pirates, they were able to turn Russia into their second largest continental European market.
And what I've been repeatedly saying, that it's about control, perhaps even more than money. The only way to combat piracy is offer a better service, else you're just chasing a tiny minority for stupidly overdone punishments, while punishing your paying customers at the same time.

If the big names pulled their fingers out and allowed people to buy movies, music, games, and TV episodes on the day of release, worldwide, for a reasonable price, a huge proportion of these 'evil pirates' just plain wouldn't bother, as they're not doing it to avoid paying, they're doing it because they know it's out, but they're not allowed to buy it because of some daft national limitation.

I understand there's legal reasons, but how about putting the time, money and effort of SOPA behind making a free, open and simple worldwide market available for copyrighted data?

Net result, everyone makes more money, and piracy is reduced to negligible levels, or in SOPA terms, 'country destroying levels'.
 

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Zeetchmen said:
Not to be a lemon but considering the Gov carpetbombed Megaupload and all of its sister sites without SOPA to get at those 'evil pirates' does it make much of a difference?

Don't get me wrong though, it makes me happy to see this draconian bill bite it though!
I just hope someone out there argues the case that's plainly obvious to me.

"Megaupload has been dealt with successfully and without any need to invade a country, do we really need to give anyone powers over the internet when it's just been proved we can deal with piracy without increasing them to nonsensical levels?"

Of course, anyone who stands up to speak will just get shouted down by dozens of old men mumbling 'NERDS!'
 

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SenseOfTumour said:
Irridium said:
beniki said:
Seriously, all they need to do is allow payments from outside their usual market zones, and I'm certain piracy will be cut in half... particularly in Russia and China. It's not like those countries don't like to spend money on games. Heck, some Chinese MMOs are basically fruit machines!

But more importantly, I WANT TO BUY A COPY OF SKYRIM!! :mad:
Hehe, actually, that's what Valve did.

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell

By offering a better service than pirates, they were able to turn Russia into their second largest continental European market.
And what I've been repeatedly saying, that it's about control, perhaps even more than money.

If the big names pulled their fingers out and allowed people to buy movies, music, games, and TV episodes on the day of release, worldwide, for a reasonable price, a huge proportion of these 'evil pirates' just plain wouldn't bother, as they're not doing it to avoid paying, they're doing it because they know it's out, but they're not allowed to buy it because of some daft national limitation.

I understand there's legal reasons, but how about putting the time, money and effort of SOPA behind making a free, open and simple worldwide market available for copyrighted data?

Net result, everyone makes more money, and piracy is reduced to negligible levels, or in SOPA terms, 'country destroying levels'.
It's really this simple people. The entertainment industry is stuck in the 90's, still thinking it can divide the world with region codes and the like. Make your product available worldwide and at the same time, then rake in the money. Fail to do this, well, don't complain people won't wait.
 

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Its a shame indefinately translates to literally 'an undetermined ammount of time'... could be a year or two, could be a day or two, there are no perameters!
 

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SonOfVoorhees said:
Why did the internet turn into cry babies over a bill that was never, ever going to go through. Its hilarious. I agree that companies should have control and ban sites that are pirating and distributing their property illegally. But the bill needs to be more specificly targetted at the criminals, not just because a film fan writes about a movie he liked and adds a trailer to it without asking permission.

End of the day the internet can not be controlled, its to big. An there are people with skills that enable them to get around any anti pirating bill that is put into effect. The fact is some people want stuff for free and that will never change.
No evidence supports that a company should be given a government controlled monopoly on trying to control digital goods. But thanks for playing.
 

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is about as much logic as they come up with.
well at least we got one less problem to worry about, for a while.
 

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mad825 said:
Well, in my opinion there are only two mains ways to combat piracy:

introduce an authoritarian law

or

introduce a pointless law that creates needless red tape and does noting at all to combat it.
This Smith guy would go with option 1. Just look at the words he has chosen: combat online piracy, cuz American innovators and job creators are under attack.

OH NOES...why these economic terrorists must be pre-emptively targeted before any more jobs are lost....in America. /sarcasm

Online piracy will stop the day the Internet becomes a police state. It worries me that corporate America has sufficient funds to make it so. They just don't have a convincing narrative/ justification for the masses...yet.
 

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Manji187 said:
mad825 said:
Well, in my opinion there are only two mains ways to combat piracy:

introduce an authoritarian law

or

introduce a pointless law that creates needless red tape and does noting at all to combat it.
This Smith guy would go with option 1. Just look at the words he has chosen: combat online piracy, cuz American innovators and job creators are under attack.

OH NOES...why these economic terrorists must be pre-emptively targeted before any more jobs are lost....in America. /sarcasm

Online piracy will stop the day the Internet becomes a police state. It worries me that corporate America has sufficient funds to make it so. They just don't have a convincing narrative/ justification for the masses...yet.
A lot of us really wonder if their claims of billions of dollars lost is true when most of their revenue is up over prior years.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/21/does-online-piracy-hurt-the-economy-a-look-at-the-numbers/