SOPA Postponed "Indefinitely"
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Urgh, AGAIN with the 'foreign thieves' Mr Smith?
I wonder if you have at any point actually read a History book. If you have, then you may realise that SOPA is basically protectionism for the internet, and as we all know (hopefully) protectionism more often than not produces exactly the opposite of desired effects. Rather than protect economies, it cripples them because no-one will do business with you any more.
I wonder if you have at any point actually read a History book. If you have, then you may realise that SOPA is basically protectionism for the internet, and as we all know (hopefully) protectionism more often than not produces exactly the opposite of desired effects. Rather than protect economies, it cripples them because no-one will do business with you any more.
... I give it about a month at the least, a year at the most, before this thing resurfaces.
They've touched on this subject, and it sounds like they're reluctant to give it up, or even admit that they're wrong, and I'll be damned if they decide to 'cooperate with the majority of people that actually use the damned Internets'.
The Internet is the Government's new scapegoat. Let's just hope that, like with video games, D&D, and music before it, they fail to convince everyone that it's some demonic entity.
They've touched on this subject, and it sounds like they're reluctant to give it up, or even admit that they're wrong, and I'll be damned if they decide to 'cooperate with the majority of people that actually use the damned Internets'.
The Internet is the Government's new scapegoat. Let's just hope that, like with video games, D&D, and music before it, they fail to convince everyone that it's some demonic entity.
The internet isn't going away. If these people want to protect their imaginary money, they have to adapt themselves to the 21st century, not the other way around.
What? That's not at all what I interpreted him to be saying in context and knowing what the bill does.Daystar Clarion said:
I assumed he was talking about foreign website like TPB that allow people everywhere to pirate things. Websites like that in America can be shut down, those can't, therefore "foreign thieves"
No you're absolutely right about companies not selling to foreign countries. It took me a month to get a copy of The Old Republic, and that was only because I had a friend in the uK buy it for me. Still looking for a way to get Skyrim.Irridium said:
Seriously, all they need to do is allow payments from outside their usual market zones, and I'm certain piracy will be cut in half... particularly in Russia and China. It's not like those countries don't like to spend money on games. Heck, some Chinese MMOs are basically fruit machines!
But more importantly, I WANT TO BUY A COPY OF SKYRIM!!
Our protests have been meaningless anyway, when the government already has the power to do what SOPA suggests,(MegaUpload) It has all been a waste.
I just want to go through his quotes with a blue marker and write [sup][disputed][/sup] and [sup][citation needed][/sup]
And the whole "foreign thieves" bit pisses me off to no end. Clearly, there isn't a single American who is engaged in piracy.
Hey, America: If you are so worried about foreigners stealing your intellectual property, how about giving us access to Hulu and the likes?
This entire "combating piracy" debacle really makes me sad. The corporations think they are losing money and they will stop at nothing to get that money back (except that they won't be earning any more money than before if a bill like this passes). In their struggle to reclaim their imaginary profits, they lobby the politicians of the most influential country in the world; essentially ruining everything for the rest of us.
It all feels so horribly dystopian.
And the whole "foreign thieves" bit pisses me off to no end. Clearly, there isn't a single American who is engaged in piracy.
Hey, America: If you are so worried about foreigners stealing your intellectual property, how about giving us access to Hulu and the likes?
This entire "combating piracy" debacle really makes me sad. The corporations think they are losing money and they will stop at nothing to get that money back (except that they won't be earning any more money than before if a bill like this passes). In their struggle to reclaim their imaginary profits, they lobby the politicians of the most influential country in the world; essentially ruining everything for the rest of us.
It all feels so horribly dystopian.
Hehe, actually, that's what Valve did.beniki said:Seriously, all they need to do is allow payments from outside their usual market zones, and I'm certain piracy will be cut in half... particularly in Russia and China. It's not like those countries don't like to spend money on games. Heck, some Chinese MMOs are basically fruit machines!
But more importantly, I WANT TO BUY A COPY OF SKYRIM!!
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell
By offering a better service than pirates, they were able to turn Russia into their second largest continental European market.
And what I've been repeatedly saying, that it's about control, perhaps even more than money. The only way to combat piracy is offer a better service, else you're just chasing a tiny minority for stupidly overdone punishments, while punishing your paying customers at the same time.Irridium said:Hehe, actually, that's what Valve did.beniki said:Seriously, all they need to do is allow payments from outside their usual market zones, and I'm certain piracy will be cut in half... particularly in Russia and China. It's not like those countries don't like to spend money on games. Heck, some Chinese MMOs are basically fruit machines!
But more importantly, I WANT TO BUY A COPY OF SKYRIM!!
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell
By offering a better service than pirates, they were able to turn Russia into their second largest continental European market.
If the big names pulled their fingers out and allowed people to buy movies, music, games, and TV episodes on the day of release, worldwide, for a reasonable price, a huge proportion of these 'evil pirates' just plain wouldn't bother, as they're not doing it to avoid paying, they're doing it because they know it's out, but they're not allowed to buy it because of some daft national limitation.
I understand there's legal reasons, but how about putting the time, money and effort of SOPA behind making a free, open and simple worldwide market available for copyrighted data?
Net result, everyone makes more money, and piracy is reduced to negligible levels, or in SOPA terms, 'country destroying levels'.
I just hope someone out there argues the case that's plainly obvious to me.Zeetchmen said:
"Megaupload has been dealt with successfully and without any need to invade a country, do we really need to give anyone powers over the internet when it's just been proved we can deal with piracy without increasing them to nonsensical levels?"
Of course, anyone who stands up to speak will just get shouted down by dozens of old men mumbling 'NERDS!'
It's really this simple people. The entertainment industry is stuck in the 90's, still thinking it can divide the world with region codes and the like. Make your product available worldwide and at the same time, then rake in the money. Fail to do this, well, don't complain people won't wait.SenseOfTumour said:And what I've been repeatedly saying, that it's about control, perhaps even more than money.Irridium said:Hehe, actually, that's what Valve did.beniki said:Seriously, all they need to do is allow payments from outside their usual market zones, and I'm certain piracy will be cut in half... particularly in Russia and China. It's not like those countries don't like to spend money on games. Heck, some Chinese MMOs are basically fruit machines!
But more importantly, I WANT TO BUY A COPY OF SKYRIM!!
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell
By offering a better service than pirates, they were able to turn Russia into their second largest continental European market.
If the big names pulled their fingers out and allowed people to buy movies, music, games, and TV episodes on the day of release, worldwide, for a reasonable price, a huge proportion of these 'evil pirates' just plain wouldn't bother, as they're not doing it to avoid paying, they're doing it because they know it's out, but they're not allowed to buy it because of some daft national limitation.
I understand there's legal reasons, but how about putting the time, money and effort of SOPA behind making a free, open and simple worldwide market available for copyrighted data?
Net result, everyone makes more money, and piracy is reduced to negligible levels, or in SOPA terms, 'country destroying levels'.
Its a shame indefinately translates to literally 'an undetermined ammount of time'... could be a year or two, could be a day or two, there are no perameters!
