Caramel Frappe said:
thepyrethatburns said:
Caramel Frappe said:
Hopefully the guy doesn't take advantage of Erin. I've had enough of people doing that (her friend sleeping with her roommate for one thing.. then being thrown out. Yeah I haven't forgotten you know!)
Wouldn't Erin need to know where he lives so she can break into his house and throw a blunt object at his girlfriend's head first?
Hang on now, I will notify you that though her actions of throwing the Xbox was uncalled for, her friends are certainly what led her to do so. The guy watches as Erin and her roommate fight, then when he decides to finally stop it- the roommate insults Erin for her condition despite that the guy's the very reason she had that 'mental issue' in the first place.
Your post is incomplete.
-Erin breaks into Clutch's house with the intent of stealing or destroying his 360.
-As she is running around screaming, she comes on Mol and Clutch having their date night.
-She belittles Mol's choice in boyfriends in front of Clutch.
-They start pushing and Clutch does, at first, sit back.
-When it looks like it's getting serious, Clutch steps in.
-Mol, who is understandably frustrated (and Erin has given her plenty of reasons even before this. One example was taking Lil' Mol out shooting when Mol didn't want her shooting. There is not a single parent in the world who appreciates a "friend" undermining them in front of their kids.), does insult her.
Erin tries to cave in her skull with a 360.
Make no mistake. Erin has been taking advantage of her friends for quite some time and, this time, she crossed the line. If Clutch and Mol let her down at any point, it was when Mol didn't turn the car around and take Erin back to the hospital the moment she threw an invisible Peppy out the window. Mol chose to believe her friend when Erin said she couldn't take the hospital anymore and that she can handle it. Since then, we've seen that she hasn't been handling it but that makes Mol guilty of nothing but a bad judgement call.
Caramel Frappe said:
Instead of them trying to help or understand her, they treat her like crap and even when she apologizes the guy just throws her out. No friend, no one should do that. Is it that hard to talk to someone or sit down with them? Is it that hard to not judge people and treat others like a human being?
Every so often, I forget how young a lot of Escapists are. A similar thing happened to me in college. I, my roommate, and two friends were hanging out in my dorm room. One, who had a history of provoking two, was doing it again. Two finally snapped and tried to put one's face through a computer monitor. We stopped them and threw them both out separately so two wouldn't jump one in the hall. One did try to apologize but we let him know that he had been deliberately trying to start something for months. (Not a word of this made it to an RA or other position of authority due to friendship.)
You say "No friend, no one should do that." I say, when felony-level assault takes place, she should be grateful that Clutch is a good enough friend to just throw her out instead of calling the cops. (Oddly enough, One did that to his roommate over a different altercation. Got his roommate kicked out of the dorms a month or two before finals.)
Caramel Frappe said:
She deserves better I say, and if she was in my house stealing my Xbox and I caught her- I would of questioned her but then wanted to sit down and play a game alongside her cause you know.. she is my friend and I know her condition so it's best to bond that way.
I also forget the tendency of people to portray themselves as saints. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and presume that you, at least, think you mean that. However, when you are actually in that situation, I would put money on you not saying "You broke into my house and tried to fracture my girlfriend's skull. Let's try to play a game on my probably broken 360 now."
Caramel Frappe said:
Besides, you do not sleep with your friend's roommate. You just don't unless you talk it over with Erin cause otherwise it's going to be a hard situation for everyone.
What?
I must have missed the societal shift where someone has to ask a girl's roommate if they can date.
Unless the roommate is dating one of the two parties, it is none of the roommate's business if two of her friends want to date. Erin is not Mol's parent and, in no way, does Clutch have to clear anything with Erin before courting Mol.
At this point, you're really stretching to find a way to divert blame away from Erin. In many ways, this is actually quite belittling to both women and people with mental problems. "Oh, she can't take responsibility for her actions. She's just a girl." "We should treat her delicately as if she were a toddler. Her mental issues make her incapable of handling criticism of her actions." White knighting isn't always the best answer. Trying to portray Erin as a poor little waif who "is being taken advantage of" is intellectually dishonest.
