Spanking

[Monkfish Acc.]

Is it terrible and awful? Generally speaking, no. However, it is ineffective as compared to other methods.

For instance?

 

[pulse2]

You know, people often talk about what's right and whats wrong, but then, I sit here and watch on the news, this one stabbed that one, that one beat up this one, then I see everyday kids treating old people like shit and swearing and the list goes on. I also watched worlds strictest parents where two unruley binge drinking, swearing, fighting etc kids were sent to africa, when they heard that caning still existed, they were shocked and ranted on about how it wasn't acceptable, but the people there laughed at them because the kids who were caned there have grown up into respectable citizens taking thier studies seriously and respect thier parents, while these two delinquents were sent to africa in the first place for doing the exact opposite.

 

[emeraldrafael]

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It wroks for my dog. He hasnt had an accident yet in doors. Then again, I pay attention because you should pay attention to your dog anyways. Be he had an accident his first few weeks here after her learned the rules and needed a small reinforcer.

Good for you? Sorry for your dog.

What? Its not like i go around beating my dog or putting it in dog fights. I gave it a light smack on the nose and said no. thats hardly abuse. ANd I've only done it once or twice in the four years i've had my dog because he had an accident in the house.

Its times today about how you cant spank kids and stuff like that that turn them into the obnoxious little pussies they;re turning into today. Its like how they're turning American football into a tag sport pretty much. If it works, let it go. Sparing physical punishment is good and healthy for a kid. The same people that say its bad for kids to be spanked are the ones that say video games turn us into mindless killing machines.
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rant for the day.

 

[RobCoxxy]

As a kid I'd get a "twat 'round 't' head" if I did something wrong. I've become a decent person.
People whose parents were "soft" on them or too abusive on the other hand have turned out to be total cunts, so the middle ground is best

 

[-Samurai-]

I see no problem with spanking your children. There's a huge difference between punishing, and beating.

I grew up in a spanking household. Paddles, hands, belts. I didn't get spanked much because I learned my lesson the first time. I'm not violent. I'm not rebellious. I'm not a psychopath.

You can't say that spanking will turn your kids into violent psychopaths. There's no proof of that. Some kids learn from it. Some rebel. It depends on the child. Some kids are spoiled because they aren't properly disciplined. No discipline can be just as bad as too much.

Kids these days need some damn discipline. They need more than a stern talking to when they misbehave in public. If you see someone spank their child, stay out of it. It isn't your business.

When I was a kid, my two brothers and I were at the store with my mom. My younger brother told her to "stop being a *****" and he got his mouth slapped soo hard. A random woman came up to her and said "You shouldn't hit your kids. You should be ashamed." My mom said "Take him home with you and see if you can go 10 minutes without slapping him.". The woman huffed and left.

 

[Koroviev]

Is it terrible and awful? Generally speaking, no. However, it is ineffective as compared to other methods.

For instance?

The source: http://ceep.crc.illinois.edu/eecearchive/digests/1997/ramsbu97.pdf

Some highlights:

"Spanking may be ineffective because it does not teach an alternative behavior (American Academy of Pediatrics,1995). In fact, children usually feel resentful, humiliated, and helpless after being spanked (Samalin & Whitney, 1995). The primary lesson they learn appears to be that they should try harder not to get caught."

"One reason parents spank is that they are not aware of other effective strategies for changing children's undesirable behavior. To be effective, discipline that is appropriate for a child's age should be used. Ineffective methods are often based on unrealistic expectations about what children are capable of learning."

 

[Koroviev]

You know, people often talk about what's right and whats wrong, but then, I sit here and watch on the news, this one stabbed that one, that one beat up this one, then I see everyday kids treating old people like shit and swearing and the list goes on. I also watched worlds strictest parents where two unruley binge drinking, swearing, fighting etc kids were sent to africa, when they heard that caning still existed, they were shocked and ranted on about how it wasn't acceptable, but the people there laughed at them because the kids who were caned there have grown up into respectable citizens taking thier studies seriously and respect thier parents, while these two delinquents were sent to africa in the first place for doing the exact opposite.

Appropriate behavior does not automatically follow from the absence of spanking. Discipline is necessary. Punishment is not.

 

[Koroviev]

I see no problem with spanking your children. There's a huge difference between punishing, and beating.

I grew up in a spanking household. Paddles, hands, belts. I didn't get spanked much because I learned my lesson the first time. I'm not violent. I'm not rebellious. I'm not a psychopath.

You can't say that spanking will turn your kids into violent psychopaths. There's no proof of that. Some kids learn from it. Some rebel. It depends on the child. Some kids are spoiled because they aren't properly disciplined. No discipline can be just as bad as too much.

Kids these days need some damn discipline. They need more than a stern talking to when they misbehave in public. If you see someone spank their child, stay out of it. It isn't your business.

When I was a kid, my two brothers and I were at the store with my mom. My younger brother told her to "stop being a *****" and he got his mouth slapped soo hard. A random woman came up to her and said "You shouldn't hit your kids. You should be ashamed." My mom said "Take him home with you and see if you can go 10 minutes without slapping him.". The woman huffed and left.

Punishment is an ineffective form of discipline.

 

[rancher of monsters]

Words are boring an easily blocked out.

Time out is like free imagination time for certain children, myself included.

But being told to go grab a switch for the adult to hit you with, that might be the most perfect punishment ever. As long as the kid doesn't bleed I don't consider it child abuse.

 

[Zaik]

Words don't always cut it.

On the other hand, I saw a woman slap her child so hard he fell over. I nearly did the same to her, but I had rent to pay so I couldn't afford to get fired.

 

[-Samurai-]

I see no problem with spanking your children. There's a huge difference between punishing, and beating.

I grew up in a spanking household. Paddles, hands, belts. I didn't get spanked much because I learned my lesson the first time. I'm not violent. I'm not rebellious. I'm not a psychopath.

You can't say that spanking will turn your kids into violent psychopaths. There's no proof of that. Some kids learn from it. Some rebel. It depends on the child. Some kids are spoiled because they aren't properly disciplined. No discipline can be just as bad as too much.

Kids these days need some damn discipline. They need more than a stern talking to when they misbehave in public. If you see someone spank their child, stay out of it. It isn't your business.

When I was a kid, my two brothers and I were at the store with my mom. My younger brother told her to "stop being a *****" and he got his mouth slapped soo hard. A random woman came up to her and said "You shouldn't hit your kids. You should be ashamed." My mom said "Take him home with you and see if you can go 10 minutes without slapping him.". The woman huffed and left.

Punishment is an ineffective form of discipline.

Proof? It worked pretty well for me and my brothers. And many other people in this thread.

 

[Koroviev]

Words are boring an easily blocked out.

Time out is like free imagination time for certain children, myself included.

But being told to go grab a switch for the adult to hit you with, that might be the most perfect punishment ever. As long as the kid doesn't bleed I don't consider it child abuse.

Time out is actually a good method for both children and adults to calm down, thus reducing the impetus toward violence.

 

[Koroviev]

I see no problem with spanking your children. There's a huge difference between punishing, and beating.

I grew up in a spanking household. Paddles, hands, belts. I didn't get spanked much because I learned my lesson the first time. I'm not violent. I'm not rebellious. I'm not a psychopath.

You can't say that spanking will turn your kids into violent psychopaths. There's no proof of that. Some kids learn from it. Some rebel. It depends on the child. Some kids are spoiled because they aren't properly disciplined. No discipline can be just as bad as too much.

Kids these days need some damn discipline. They need more than a stern talking to when they misbehave in public. If you see someone spank their child, stay out of it. It isn't your business.

When I was a kid, my two brothers and I were at the store with my mom. My younger brother told her to "stop being a *****" and he got his mouth slapped soo hard. A random woman came up to her and said "You shouldn't hit your kids. You should be ashamed." My mom said "Take him home with you and see if you can go 10 minutes without slapping him.". The woman huffed and left.

Punishment is an ineffective form of discipline.

Proof? It worked pretty well for me and my brothers. And many other people in this thread.

Anecdotal evidence may be used to more effectively illustrate a point, but it is rather weak evidence in and of itself.

As stated previously:

The source: http://ceep.crc.illinois.edu/eecearchive/digests/1997/ramsbu97.pdf

Some highlights:

"Spanking may be ineffective because it does not teach an alternative behavior (American Academy of Pediatrics,1995). In fact, children usually feel resentful, humiliated, and helpless after being spanked (Samalin & Whitney, 1995). The primary lesson they learn appears to be that they should try harder not to get caught."

"One reason parents spank is that they are not aware of other effective strategies for changing children's undesirable behavior. To be effective, discipline that is appropriate for a child's age should be used. Ineffective methods are often based on unrealistic expectations about what children are capable of learning."

 

[Koroviev]

Words don't always cut it.

On the other hand, I saw a woman slap her child so hard he fell over. I nearly did the same to her, but I had rent to pay so I couldn't afford to get fired.

If it looks like child abuse, then you call the police

 

[VanityGirl]

I was spanked as a child when I did something very wrong. I got quite a few because when I was younger I was a little hellion.

I don't see a problem with it in all honesty. To this day, I am a well behaved person, if my elders ask something of me I'll do it, not out of fear, but out of respect. I respect my parents for punishing me for my wrongdoings.

Also, spanking worked best for me because time outs did nothing for me as a kid.

 

[crudus]

Yes, hitting your kids is a great way to level them out. We just have to remember to also reward the behaviors we want as well as discourage the ones we don't want.

 

[hittite]

I'm pretty sure I turned out all right, and my dad sure didn't spare the rod if I misbehaved. Yeah, I'd say it was necessary a few times.

Anecdotal evidence can be used to more effectively illustrate a point, but it is rather weak support in and of itself.

However, this is an opinion thread. As my opinion is influenced largely by my own experiences growing up and not much else, I'm going to have to ask you to shove it.

 

[PeePantz]

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Easy there. Is it classy to quote someone out of context?

OT: Like most have mentioned, in extreme cases such as a last resort, a good whack will usually straighten the kid out. He'll remember and probably won't repeat the action that prompted the spanking.

 

[Koroviev]

Yes, hitting your kids is a great way to level them out. We just have to remember to also reward the behaviors we want as well as discourage the ones we don't want.

What is your reasoning?

 

[Strain42]

I don't care who thinks I'd be a bad parent, if my kids do something out of line, they're gonna get spanked.

I was spanked as a kid, it teaches them that there are consequences to certain actions and hopefully makes them not wanna do it again.

I never saw "time out" as an appropriate punishment. I got sent to time out I just sat there and hummed the speed racer theme song to myself to five minutes, then went on with my day, not learning anything from the experience.

There's a huge difference between actively beating your kids and using a physical touch to deliver an adequate punishment.