Square-Enix Isn't Sure Where to Take Final Fantasy

Sephiwind

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I personally would like to see the Final Fantasy series go back to it's roots a bit. I thought that the battle mechanics in 13 were pretty good but the story telling has really become sad. If I was to make my own Final Fantasy game here are some things I would do.

Character:
1. Get rid of the teen anxt. (Or how ever it's spelled.) This may work well in Japanese culture, but if you really want to see in the west you have to remember that a good amount of your fans have been so for years and are adults. If you feel the need to make children your main characters that's fine, but the majority of us don't want to actually deal with whiny teenage protagonists. Give them at least some maturity.

2. Try and give your characters some personality that stands out a bit. Vaneel was the closest to hit this mark in 13 but the rest seemed to be some what bland. Character personality seems to all ways seems to be Square's weak point. In most of the series the "party" characters seem to have some pack mentality. Only a hand full of characters seem to ever stick out in my mind as interesting whether I hated them or not at least they were memorable. (exe.) Cid-07, Zell-08, Locke-06, Bathier-12.

3. Give me a villian I can actually love to hate. This is another major flaw in the franchise. For the most part the villains are usually so blah. The only two villians I can think of that were pure awsome were Kefka from 06 and Dr. Cid from 12. Sadly in 12 Cid should have been the main villian instead of Vane.

As for Kefka, I may be in the minority here, but Kefka is probably the best FF villain ever. By the end of the game if you didn't hate that bastard then you should have your self checked in to a rubber room before you do something the rest of us will regret. I mean seriously the dude poisons a town's drinking well and dances around while doing it. On top of that the guy kind of looks like a clown, and as we all know clowns are pure evil.

Story:

This has all ways been hit or miss with the series. Even though my first one was 7 I still think that 6 had the over all best plot. Almost all characters had sub-plot to it and really there was no "main" character. The main character was who ever the story was about at the time. 13 I think tried to emulate that idea but failed with over all weak characters.

A lot of people complained about the game being to linear, but really almost all of them are linear. You have to get to point a in order to continue to point b. It's just that 13 seemed to be a rail road for most of the game; much like 10 was. The older games just did a better job of covering up the linearity of the game with world maps and side quests.

Music:

Please. For the love of all that's holy. Get Nobuo Uematsu back. His music is iconic to the franchise and is seriously missed. I don't have anything against the composers that did the last two games but to me Final Fantasy isn't the same with out his music.


These are just some things I would do if I made a Final Fantasy game. Square needs to take a look back at what made their previous games great before making another one. I understand that things change and it doesn't help that they have lost a good number of their Final Fantasy staff over the years, but really Squeenix rather then just making remake after remake of the games that did really well, why not learn from them and make a really awesome new game built off of the ideas of your predecessor games. Namely good story and interesting/deep characters.
 

Zeromaeus

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I find it humorous that FF threads always turn into FF fans ripping each other apart and assorted people making the "final" fantasy joke.
 

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main problem i had with final fantasy was the battle system cause you could effectively set it to do everything automatically and win most of the time. granted it looked flashy and everything but most other final fantasy's pulled that off but involved some sort of deep combat mechanic.
 

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Commander Breetai said:
Space.

C'mon; it'll be a kick.
That.. actually I'd love to see that. If they could keep the plot primarily in space, all the better, rather than playing Star Ocean and crashing the spaceship on a pre-industrial planet inside the first ten minutes. Sure you need to land a Lot, but Mass Effect's 'lots of space travel between lots of locations'..

Well anyway, yeah, that sounds like it'd be fun.

Oo, or primarily under-water! .. But.. y'know, with subs and stuff. So more Subculture than Bioshock.
 

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Zeromaeus said:
I find it humorous that FF threads always turn into FF fans ripping each other apart and assorted people making the "final" fantasy joke.
It's not fans against fans at all.

There are the so-called fans (those who enjoy the games and really could care less what others think of their game, so piss off you bastards (;p)), the haters (those that completely despise all things FF/JRPG and will tear it to shreds for no real reason, rather than just sticking to THEIR game/s)... Then there's the fucking morons who make the "final" fantasy joke and really look like massive tools.
 

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I liked it, but they should quit making Final Fantasy games for about 10 years. After that they can bring them back with really classic game play and everyone will love it again because they won't be bored of it anymore.
 

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Fensfield said:
Commander Breetai said:
Space.

C'mon; it'll be a kick.
That.. actually I'd love to see that. If they could keep the plot primarily in space, all the better, rather than playing Star Ocean and crashing the spaceship on a planet inside the first ten minutes. Sure you need to land a Lot, but Mass Effect's 'lots of space travel between lots of locations'..

Well anyway, yeah, that sounds like it'd be fun.

Oo, or primarily under-water! .. But.. y'know, with subs and stuff. So more Subculture than Bioshock.
Screw the subs and such! GILLS MAN!.. GILLS!! It's a fantasy game. WoW now has underwater swimming and a dedicated area for questing underwater while breathing normally.. An entire game underwater.. Except not anywhere near Kingdom Hearts Little Mermaid world. Worst. World. EVER.
 

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MattAn24 said:
Zeromaeus said:
I find it humorous that FF threads always turn into FF fans ripping each other apart and assorted people making the "final" fantasy joke.
It's not fans against fans at all.

There are the so-called fans (those who enjoy the games and really could care less what others think of their game, so piss off you bastards (;p)), the haters (those that completely despise all things FF/JRPG and will tear it to shreds for no real reason, rather than just sticking to THEIR game/s)... Then there's the fucking morons who make the "final" fantasy joke and really look like massive tools.
I was more or less referencing the near rabid "conversations" between fans of the retro games (I-VI) and fans of the newer games (VII-XIII). It needs to be like the originals, it needs to be like VII, it needs to be like VIII, it needs to be like X and all the crap in-between. Final Fantasy fans are the most divided community I've ever claimed to be a part of. Which I am, technically. I've enjoyed a great number of FF titles.
 

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Sephiwind said:
As for Kefka, I may be in the majority here, but Kefka is probably the best FF villain ever. By the end of the game if you didn't hate that bastard then you should have your self checked in to a rubber room before you do something the rest of us will regret. I mean seriously the dude poisons a town's drinking well and dances around while doing it. On top of that the guy kind of looks like a clown, and as we all know clowns are pure evil.
This paragraph doesn't contain any Kuja. Please rectify this post-haste! He DESTROYED HIS OWN HOME PLANET (Terra) WITH HIS BARE HANDS, then shrugged it off and caused more carnage on Gaia.. Kuja and Kefka could both easily have gained my "Greaterest Villain Evarz Srsly" award.
 

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Final Fantasy had a direction? Whoa, I thought they were all just random stories :)

I hope they don't move towards an overly FPS version or something like that. I pray that it stays away from the RTS format.
 

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MasterChief1337 said:
They should make it more action-packed. That is where all other RPGs are heading.
...So? Just because BioWare is doing it, doesn't mean EVERYONE ELSE has to. SquareEnix has no reason to blindly follow them. Might be shocking to your boy head, but there ARE people who really don't like Mass Effect and/or Dragon Age. It's not their type of game. Not a problem. "WRPG" fans? Play your damned WRPG games! "JRPG" fans? Play your damned JRPG games!

This goes to both sides here. If you DON'T like WRPG's, DON'T BOTHER SAYING ANYTHING. Just play the games YOU want to. Don't like JRPG's? Fine! Don't play them, don't discuss them, don't even consider them! Just leave the two industries separate, if you're so adamant to keep JRPG's and WRPG's as sub-genres.. But don't you DARE tell someone their game choice is wrong.
 

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Seatownstriker said:
dogstile said:
Seatownstriker said:
No matter what they come up with, someone is going to complain bitterly that its unoriginal. As if anything is original these days?
I believe people do that as guitar hero 4 was "cashing out" and in spite they call out the same to final fantasy.

Which I can understand.
Well its just become more of a fad I think to say something is unoriginal. And its quiet annoying. Instead of complaining about it why don't people try and come up with something totally original?
Because in a world full of 6 billion people at least, originality is a hard thing to come up with.
 

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MattAn24 said:
Sephiwind said:
As for Kefka, I may be in the majority here, but Kefka is probably the best FF villain ever. By the end of the game if you didn't hate that bastard then you should have your self checked in to a rubber room before you do something the rest of us will regret. I mean seriously the dude poisons a town's drinking well and dances around while doing it. On top of that the guy kind of looks like a clown, and as we all know clowns are pure evil.
This paragraph doesn't contain any Kuja. Please rectify this post-haste! He DESTROYED HIS OWN HOME PLANET (Terra) WITH HIS BARE HANDS, then shrugged it off and caused more carnage on Gaia.. Kuja and Kefka could both easily have gained my "Greaterest Villain Evarz Srsly" award.
Unfortunately 9 is one of the few that I never actualy beat. My copy got wrecked half way through the game and I never got around to getting a new copy, and it's been almost 8 years since I played it so I don't remember alot of the story.

Also I would like to point out that I meant that I was in the minority with Kefka rather then majority, which I will be editing it. Mainly minority because most will say that Sephiroth was the most evil of the series.