Stargate Universe Producers Not Giving Up on Show

[Karilas]

I really wanted to love this show, I'm a huge fan of SG-1, Atlantis, and of course Robert Carlyle, but I completely lost interest about 6 episodes in when they brought in ridiculous "infidelity on earth" storylines. I don't want my sci-fi to be a fucking soap, y'dig!?

 

[sunburst]

This is so close to being a huge disappointment. SGU had a handful of interesting characters and the perfect setting in which to explore them. If only they had given Rush and Eli meaningful character arcs instead of focusing on the one-dimensional characters like Matt and Chloe.

Between SGU failing and Caprica being an unfocused mess due to all the Battlestar references they tried to hammer into the original concept, Syfy just can't stop letting me down. At least I can count on Science and Discovery to give me some entertaining television.

 

[A Pious Cultist]

I liked S1 specifically because it was soul-crushingly horrible. SG1 always had a safe harbor. Atlantis was chasing after ZPMs, but they were largely safe at home. What I liked about SGU was that sense of "we are so totally screwed". We don't have a safe harbor (no food, no water, no friends). We don't have the right people (except of course, we have just enough of the right people: no doc, but a medic, etc.). We're here, we're stuck, and we can't even drive the ship. My big complaint is that they moved away from that too quickly. Halfway through season 2, and we're pretty much Voyager. The civilian/military split is now Lucian/human, and neither are terribly interesting.

Plus with the Lucian and the stones we have these really unfitting references to the much "zanier" SG1 world. SG1 characters were always fantastic unfaultable good guys (with the exception of the occasional cliche evil clone that wears dark leather and talks in a deep commanding voice and has a few concubines), the Colonel (I can't think of his name but I think he's a colonel), Rush, Greer. Those characters motivations arnt always clear cut or necessarily good for the rest of the crew aboard the ship, and that was what made it interesting. But then we have characters like Chloe and Eli which don't really contribute anything else to the show except TEEEEN DRAMAAAAA.
Personally I didn't even find Eli that necessary as the "relatable character", I found the other male soldier (Why can I not remember any of the characters' names?) a much better rational middle-of-the-road character.

So basically: Continue it but cut the QQ and add more PEWPEW. Add some humour in places, it can help lighten the mood. Add the odd bits of action. Keep the story line progressing towards somewhere meaningful.

 

[jad4400]

I enjoyed the concept of the show, it reminded me of the Atlantis (my favorite Stargate). It had the cool mindset of; these guys are stranded and have to survive on their own. Even in Atlantis when some of the ZPM?s were found and contact with Earth became more normalized, there was still the air of ?We?re still on our own and have to rely on what we have? and that?s what I enjoyed.

Unfortunately, as several people have already said, Universe spoiled this concept when they focuses on all the stuff going on, on Earth and the weird love triangles. Season one was pretty cool, but now as a whole, the rest of the series has been meh.

 

[anyGould]

I pretty much totally agree with you (and the chloe/matt relationship was so boring to watch that it had no reason being there). Im gonna miss robert carlyle's acting though.

Agreed on Robert - Rush and Eli are two of the best things about the show.

As for Chloe/Matt, it was just too... simple. The love triangle should have run much longer. (That's something I blame more on the writing than the actors - it's not that I don't believe them, it's that the writers wanted to see more Eli moping than an actual friction.)

(Now, Gil getting killed that fast was inexcusable. Again, here's a plot element that could have run half a season, wrapped up in two eps.)

 

[mr_rubino]

Hey, you know what would probably have fixed your rantings? Killing Chloe. Seriously, that character was the biggest waste of screen time I've seen in a Stargate series. I also didn't like how they turned 'sociopathic black man' into 'just kinda grumpy black man' over two seasons, I thought the fact that he was slightly insane from being abused as a child actually made him a bit more interesting, Stargate's never really had a 'heroic sociopath' character, just some loners.

I'd say the entire Atlantis crew from about S3 onwards fit the "heroic sociopath" trope, albeit in highly relative terms. The "heroic" part, that is. The "sociopath" part was pretty objectively quantifiable.

 

[Atmos Duality]

What are you rambling on about serene goose?
I don't understand what you were trying to say or how it related to my post.

He was attempting to be satirical (he failed).

I dunno, his sarcasm came across pretty clearly to me.

 

[Blind Sight]

Hey, you know what would probably have fixed your rantings? Killing Chloe. Seriously, that character was the biggest waste of screen time I've seen in a Stargate series. I also didn't like how they turned 'sociopathic black man' into 'just kinda grumpy black man' over two seasons, I thought the fact that he was slightly insane from being abused as a child actually made him a bit more interesting, Stargate's never really had a 'heroic sociopath' character, just some loners.

I'd say the entire Atlantis crew from about S3 onwards fit the "heroic sociopath" trope, albeit in highly relative terms. The "heroic" part, that is. The "sociopath" part was pretty objectively quantifiable.

I watched season 3 a long time ago, so I can't exactly recall the complete events of the series after that (had something to do with Michael and Teyla being pregnant, right?) but I'd say that the characters didn't really fit the 'heroic sociopath' trope, more then 'possible anti-hero' trope. A heroic sociopath is basically a loaded gun, you point them at a goal that is definitely good and they'll kill, destroy, rape, etc., everything in their path. Basically, the character has no moral qualms or connections to other sentient beings, and I'm not really sure if that the Atlantis crew fits that, they always seemed to do morally questionable things 'for the greater good' or for their own well-being.

 

[Ph33nix]

meh universe kinda well sucks SG-1 was Amazing and then atlantis felt like a cheap copy universe doesn't even have any real tie to sg-1 or the movie aside from the stargate

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

I like how people say it was shit just after it was getting good. If the show was gonna be axed it should been axed last season before it started to get decent and killed off some of the more pointless characters and some of the pointless love triangles are abandoned or resolved. Yes it was not original Star Gate and it was more inline with something like Galactica but I don't what is wrong with that. It is a spin off not main SG1 it is ok for it to go in other directions.

Hey, you know what would probably have fixed your rantings? Killing Chloe. Seriously, that character was the biggest waste of screen time I've seen in a Stargate series. I also didn't like how they turned 'sociopathic black man' into 'just kinda grumpy black man' over two seasons, I thought the fact that he was slightly insane from being abused as a child actually made him a bit more interesting, Stargate's never really had a 'heroic sociopath' character, just some loners.

I'd say the entire Atlantis crew from about S3 onwards fit the "heroic sociopath" trope, albeit in highly relative terms. The "heroic" part, that is. The "sociopath" part was pretty objectively quantifiable.

I watched season 3 a long time ago, so I can't exactly recall the complete events of the series after that (had something to do with Michael and Teyla being pregnant, right?) but I'd say that the characters didn't really fit the 'heroic sociopath' trope, more then 'possible anti-hero' trope. A heroic sociopath is basically a loaded gun, you point them at a goal that is definitely good and they'll kill, destroy, rape, etc., everything in their path. Basically, the character has no moral qualms or connections to other sentient beings, and I'm not really sure if that the Atlantis crew fits that, they always seemed to do morally questionable things 'for the greater good' or for their own well-being.

So basically Rush before he also became a pussy?

 

[Zero=Interrupt]

Hey Stargate Producers? Give up on your shows. All of them.

We need the money to revive Farscape.

 

[RJ Dalton]

I haven't liked Star Gate since the season before Atlantis started. I feel no loss if it falls through now. The series has exhausted itself.

 

[Vault boy Eddie]

I'm very meh about this news, I was a huge fan of SG1 and a moderate fan of Atlantis, but Universe really put me off, it was trying too bloody hard to be Battlestar Galaticia, there was very little if any of the fun off the wall stuff of SG1 and Atlantis, and too much damn angst.

This is pretty much how I feel. I was trying to get into the show but they just kept focusing too much on relationships and whatnot. Still, it's a shame to see it end so quickly, maybe it would have picked up, it still can in the remaining episodes, let's just wait and see.

 

[Estoki]

SG-1 lasted ten seasons and had three(?) movies.

Atlantis lasted five seasons and supposedly has a movie in the works.

Universe lasted two seasons.

How could they have actually expected Universe to be universally (no pun intended) well received, it lost all sense of humor and turned into a space opera.

 

[sneakypenguin]

I wanted to like it but its just moving way way too slow. Its been almost 2 full seasons and i feel we've only covered 3-4 episodes worth of material.

 

[ecoho]

Goddammit, just let it die, please. Bring back something more like SG-1 and Atlantis.

or hell just start reshowing the old stargates i mean they still have a great following hell you could probily bring atlantis back and no one would complain.

 

[Tony2077]

talk to space and see if they'll help if not it's dead and there nothing anyone can do about it

 

[RAMBO22]

Funny thing is, I've never really watched any Sci-Fi series before (much less any of the SG series), I watched the first episode of SGU on demand from my cable provider, and I fell in love with the show! Maybe I'm what you might brand a "sci-fi noob", but I love the shows use of epic moments in space, advanced technology, an "Advanced Ancient Civilization" backstory, and hell, even the romance! For me, SGU may not be the most serious show on the planet, but I think it's a lot of fun to watch. I would love to see it return for a third season.