Steam Version of Dead Space 2 Dead in the Water
- Thread starter John Funk
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In this thread: every word anybody utters is assumed to be a flame, no matter how civil!
I use Steam, and I play console games. Both systems have their ups and downs, but I don't wanna give up either one. There's something nice about being able to own a physical copy and have it on your shelf, especially with boxsets and special editions, but it's also nice not to have to get up, especially with PC games, as they often come in horrible sleeves, or other packaging not really suited to long-term storage.
This is just one example of a potential problem with digital distribution. It is not the only example, but it's also not the norm by any means, and it sure as hell isn't Steams fault that EA botched this. I really don't see the need for so many people to argue that digital distribution is evil, or that discs are evil.
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I use Steam, and I play console games. Both systems have their ups and downs, but I don't wanna give up either one. There's something nice about being able to own a physical copy and have it on your shelf, especially with boxsets and special editions, but it's also nice not to have to get up, especially with PC games, as they often come in horrible sleeves, or other packaging not really suited to long-term storage.
This is just one example of a potential problem with digital distribution. It is not the only example, but it's also not the norm by any means, and it sure as hell isn't Steams fault that EA botched this. I really don't see the need for so many people to argue that digital distribution is evil, or that discs are evil.
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Well, I obviously meant that as an exaggeration (and I realize now it was a pretty silly one), but I interpreted your statement as a bit inflammatory. You opposed digital distribution to putting putting a disc in the console and playing, implying that PC gaming is just so inconvenient compared to console gaming.John Funk said:
Anyway, it was, as I said, a silly knee-jerk reaction, you'll have to excuse my tiredness.
EDIT: On the other hand, it did spark comments like these:
Azaraxzealot said:
Hear hear! Can't say anything but I concur with your comment!Tzekelkan said:
*Adds valuable input to the discussion, so as to not be banned*
Seriously? Because I spend a HELL OF A LOT of time installing and upgrading whenever I buy games like metal gear or heavy rain. Not to mention all those ps3 serial key rumors circling right now which don't paint a bright future on gaming simplicity.John Funk said:
The line between console and pc gets blurrier every day.
People who can't read never get old.Zachary Amaranth said:
EA supply the CD keys, it's their job if they go wrong. That's why Valve have contacted them for people.
No different to times when CD keys don't get printed on the back of manuals (or are misprinted) - that isn't GAME's fault, or Gamestop's, or HMVs, or *insert retailer of choice*.
*insert some long winded and pointless arguement about how PC gamers are not so awesome, and aren't the supeior gaming race*
Because we really should be improving the schism between gamers when nearly every other person in the world blames us for everything.
OT:It'll be blamed on steam, or EA then the blame will be passed between the two whilst the consumer has to wait to get their copy. At least the people who got it through steam will more then likely get something in return, the orignial maybe, or Left 4 dead 2 again?
Because we really should be improving the schism between gamers when nearly every other person in the world blames us for everything.
OT:It'll be blamed on steam, or EA then the blame will be passed between the two whilst the consumer has to wait to get their copy. At least the people who got it through steam will more then likely get something in return, the orignial maybe, or Left 4 dead 2 again?
True, but at least there is a chance that will happen. If something similar happened on consoles, there would be no chance at getting anything at all from EA. At least with Steam, there is the small chance Valve may give something.Woodsey said:
Oh god no. If I get home from work, and my CE doesn't work, I'm going to take that replica plasma cutter to the EA offices and make someone in their QA department eat it for dinner!mindlesspuppet said:
This comes of having CD keys that need to register with a server to make sure the key hasn't already been used.
For one thing, it prevents resale (possibly illegal) but not piracy (pirates can, as always, disable the keychecking part of the software), for another, if something goes wrong (say, the keys generated aren't in the database) EA could be looking at a fiasco: hundreds of thousands of useless Dead Space 2 retail copies are a whole lot harder to fix than a Steam key database.
...Or, they might have a problem with their servers, in which case it could be fixed in a matter of hours/days - annoying, but not disastrous.
For one thing, it prevents resale (possibly illegal) but not piracy (pirates can, as always, disable the keychecking part of the software), for another, if something goes wrong (say, the keys generated aren't in the database) EA could be looking at a fiasco: hundreds of thousands of useless Dead Space 2 retail copies are a whole lot harder to fix than a Steam key database.
...Or, they might have a problem with their servers, in which case it could be fixed in a matter of hours/days - annoying, but not disastrous.
incompetent fools (ea that is) how in the name of hell can you screw up cd keys (something that has been around of oh i dont know over 10 years)? and hell why wasn't this caught in testing (one of the first things you should test is that the game bloody works), goes to show the level of their 'testing'.
dammit this is a utter disgrace on ea's part, and i bet you steam is going to have to take the flack for it.
dammit this is a utter disgrace on ea's part, and i bet you steam is going to have to take the flack for it.
anything by EA digitally is shite. Tried buying BC2 through EA online, it refused me several times just because... ended up buying it off steam. on topic though, i've had this problem before with games not released dead on time, its nothing new. just give it a day or two and the problem is sorted xD
Yeah and seeing as I consider myself a gaming vanguard I got the CE for PS3, well I gotta pick it up (Stupid school!)Kroxile said:
However Its also Valves responsibility to make sure that these work within their system or that they have enough CD keys to go around before the game launches (or in 1 case have enough CD keys before the game goes on a weekend sale and hundreds of people can't play their game) so its really hard to say whos really at fault because there is no info about EA/ Valve relationsWoodsey said:
Edit: nvm about steams part of the CD keys. Been seeing some reports of the EA distributed copy not working as well
" It's unclear whether this is happening to all copies of the game or just some of them"Skizle said:
Maybe they did check them - I don't know if they do or the publisher's do, I'd assume it'd be EA since the keys log into their servers (Cerberus network, and whatever they used for Dragon Age, etc.), not Valve's.