The outcries from both of those parties are so annoying, I love it but I don't understand why people get angry at another person's opinion and insult them for it, of course that could apply to anything.
I count myself quite lucky that I've never had a crash problem with Civ V.
Edit: I have a feeling a lot of the complaints levelled at Civ V for being dumbed down is that people have toruble seperating Civ IV once it was fully expanded and vanilla Civ IV. The vanilla versions of both aren't remarkably different in terms of complexity, Civ V just LOOKS less complex.
I count myself quite lucky that I've never had a crash problem with Civ V.
Edit: I have a feeling a lot of the complaints levelled at Civ V for being dumbed down is that people have toruble seperating Civ IV once it was fully expanded and vanilla Civ IV. The vanilla versions of both aren't remarkably different in terms of complexity, Civ V just LOOKS less complex.