Is there a better reason when you've got two groups of stupid jerks pummeling each other with weapons?orangeban said:Seriously though, I've never been a fan of the Stormcloaks. Even at the start I sided with the Imperials (because I though Hadvar seemed like a nice guy, which I admit isn't the best reason).
Except the Stormcloaks wouldn't be joining the Empire and Hammerfell; Hammerfell seceeded, like it said in the article that you just quoted.Dectomax said:As quoted from UESP:
Later, in 4E 171, the Thalmor invaded Hammerfell and Cyrodiil after Titus Mede II rejected their Ultimatum. Aldmeri forces would push deep into both provinces, taking many cities, including the Imperial City. The Thalmor then faced their greatest defeat (later known as the Battle of the Red Ring), in which they lost all of their forces in Cyrodiil. Despite this, due mainly to the exhaustion of the Imperial Legions, the Great War ended with the White-Gold Concordat, which resulted in Talos worship being outlawed in the Empire, and a significant portion of Southern Hammerfell becoming part of the Dominion. However, Hammerfell rejected the treaty and left the Empire, continuing to fight the Thalmor until 4E 180, when the Second Treaty of Stros M'kai was signed by both sides, resulting in the Aldmeri forces pulling out of Hammerfell, and a territorial status quo.[2]
Apparently, the Imnperial's are the good guys - having beaten the elves, but being in a position were they couldn't finalize the victory decided on a Stalemate. If the stormcloak's would stop their revolution and join the empire and Hammerfell, the elves may actually be pushed back.
It doesn't matter who you run off with at the start, you can pick either faction regardless. I went with the Stormcloak guy by accident too, and there are literally no consequences for doing so.Jakisall said:To be honest i went with the stormcloaks by accident in the beginning of the game where the dragon is attacking and you have to choose imperial or stormcloak it said the name of the person to follow I had no idea who was who and just went for the closest door.
as long as we dont start seeing elven internment camps i think we'll be okPuzzlenaut said:I only just realised...
Nationalistic political entity that hates all races except for the Nordic race overthrowing a foreign, imposed government?
Rise of the Nazis anyone?
OT: Stormcloaks get more support because its cool to be a rebel.
What about ghettos? Like say the grey quarter in Windhelm or the fact that Argonians aren't even let into the city.pumuckl said:as long as we dont start seeing elven internment camps i think we'll be okPuzzlenaut said:I only just realised...
Nationalistic political entity that hates all races except for the Nordic race overthrowing a foreign, imposed government?
Rise of the Nazis anyone?
OT: Stormcloaks get more support because its cool to be a rebel.
I've got to about 50ish on destruction, so I'm not too sure how it is further on, but being able to sith up a dragons day with rapid-fire lightning bolts up the jacksy is always fun.Zetion said:You play a mage?AdamG3691 said:Faralda (the destruction trainer at the mage college) is pretty nice to you. but other than her and your player character, I cant remember any other altmer that aren't either thalmor or paranoid/insane.Zetion said:Is it wrong I hate the Altmer? I've never met a nice one.michiehoward said:Ahhh guys, don't say The Elves, its not the Elves or all Elves, its a particular group of dick Elves I hope we can obliterate in some future DLC.
by the way, about the "joining the stormcloaks as a high elf" thing: I tried, there's an amusing bit where you are asked how you feel about elves and you have the choice to say something along the lines of "yeah, we really suck don't we?" (or alternatively "everyone is equal"), I think its one of the few times any of them actually acknowledge that you aren't a nord
I want to get into them, but i've heard that destruction is a dead end.
Sided with Stormcloaks. Earned the first hat and pickpocketed the second from Mr. Stone-fist. Now I have 2 bitchin' bear hatsMuphin_Mann said:Sided with imperials. Killed a Stormcloak general and stole his hat.MrLlamaLlama said:But...
They give you a bitchin' hat which is the top half of a bear's head. In my eyes all is forgiven.
well in their defense, if a giant walking talking lizard walks into your house, speaking a thick eastern european accent, and begins eyeing your valuables, would you be comfortable?pffh said:What about ghettos? Like say the grey quarter in Windhelm or the fact that Argonians aren't even let into the city.pumuckl said:as long as we dont start seeing elven internment camps i think we'll be okPuzzlenaut said:I only just realised...
Nationalistic political entity that hates all races except for the Nordic race overthrowing a foreign, imposed government?
Rise of the Nazis anyone?
OT: Stormcloaks get more support because its cool to be a rebel.
I don't know if the Imperials trying to cut off your head qualifies them as "bad guys"...you start out as a prisoner in the last to TES games, too, and the Imperials were often nice guys.Ace of Spades said:Most people go with the Stormcloaks because the Imperial Legion tries to cut your head off at the beginning of the game. They're supposed to be the bad guys. It might be reasonable that they would assume I'm with the Stormcloaks, but even so, in that situation, I'd do everything in my power to see them burn.
Yeah, but you're just a prisoner in previous games, not about to get your head removed.aristos_achaion said:I don't know if the Imperials trying to cut off your head qualifies them as "bad guys"...you start out as a prisoner in the last to TES games, too, and the Imperials were often nice guys.Ace of Spades said:Most people go with the Stormcloaks because the Imperial Legion tries to cut your head off at the beginning of the game. They're supposed to be the bad guys. It might be reasonable that they would assume I'm with the Stormcloaks, but even so, in that situation, I'd do everything in my power to see them burn.
Yes I didn't say agent. I said puppet.Zetion said:Someone didn't read the rest of that dossier...
He isn't their sleeper agent, but his rebellion benefits them as long as there isn't a victor.
actually they also said they don't want a StormCloaks victory if I remember correctly. They just want the war to last as long as it can. Weakening both sides.seraphy said:Yes I didn't say agent. I said puppet.Zetion said:Someone didn't read the rest of that dossier...
He isn't their sleeper agent, but his rebellion benefits them as long as there isn't a victor.
And which outcome you think Thalmor eventually prefers? Whole Empire? Or Punch of independent kingdoms.