*Looks at my Hybrid Tablet with a camera, looks over to my right at my work laptop with a camera, looks to my left at my Galaxy S4 smartphone with a camera* Meh, that's what privacy laws are for. I've never understood the US's population being so paranoid of their own government, to be that paranoid your either:frizzlebyte said:The thing that creeps me out is, how long before we *don't* have a choice? Not out of direct compulsion, but rather having no alternative but to live a Luddite's existence? For instance, show me a laptop or cell phone that doesn't have a camera and a microphone in it somewhere. And how often does one cover that camera, or turn off that microphone?
A lot fewer than I'm comfortable with, I'd wager.
It's that illusion of choice that makes society complacent, I think.
RicoADF said:*Looks at my Hybrid Tablet with a camera, looks over to my right at my work laptop with a camera, looks to my left at my Galaxy S4 smartphone with a camera* Meh, that's what privacy laws are for. I've never understood the US's population being so paranoid of their own government, to be that paranoid your either:frizzlebyte said:The thing that creeps me out is, how long before we *don't* have a choice? Not out of direct compulsion, but rather having no alternative but to live a Luddite's existence? For instance, show me a laptop or cell phone that doesn't have a camera and a microphone in it somewhere. And how often does one cover that camera, or turn off that microphone?
A lot fewer than I'm comfortable with, I'd wager.
It's that illusion of choice that makes society complacent, I think.
1) Have a really shit government that you need to get rid of (a possibility)
2) Have done something wrong and are afraid of getting caught
Don't get me wrong I'm all for privacy laws, but remember the number of people your talking about, collecting it about everyone 24/7 would require a system that not even the US can support and would be an information overload. There is such a thing as too much information.
It does sound pretty paranoid, doesn't it? Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of our "patriot" loonies who thinks the government is automatically bad, or is "out to get us," take our guns away, steal our freedoms, or whatever. But, I also would not have thought the US government would have justified warrantless wiretaps against its own citizens, been given powers to access library book checkout records, advocating torture of prisoners, disregard for the Geneva conventions...elvor0 said:Well yeah, but that /does/ sound pretty paranoid, I'm pretty sure the government aren't spying on me through my webcam. Scrap that, I'm sure they're not. I mean seriously, the amount of man power they'd need to monitor is absolutely ludicrous, when at the end of the day the most noteworthy thing they're going to see is me having a shifty.
They're unaware. If this were to hit mainstream news, then there would be an uproar from social conservatives about 'think of the children' and all the other nonsense. But based on the reaction thus far, it seems like they don't have any awareness of the issue.Legion said:Does anybody else find it strange that a bigger deal hasn't been made over this?
Not because it should be an issue, but considering PG13 sex scenes in games cause such outrage half of the time, I'd expect the "angry ignorant parent" collective to be causing a fuss and claiming that console developers are trying to sell porn to kids.
No. While I'm sure there is plenty of pirated porn out there, the makers usually post free samples on their own websites, either for DL or streaming. Not that I know about that sort of thing. >_> <_<MrStab said:Hang on so the majority of people on this site jump to the defense of devs and publishers when it comes to pirating pretty much any medium, but when it comes to porn it's okay because it's porn? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't streaming porn free from whatever site you're using still illegal because it's a form of public distribution? Doesn't that make it a form of piracy even if you aren't just downloading it?
yes. they actually pay for it, download it and uplaod it for all of us to see, thne get sued over it and get it taken down and the cycle repeats.JEBWrench said:People... people pay for adult videos?
I'm confused again. Halp.
actually there is extremely limited amount of videos fo any decent quality out there for free. whnever i browse such videos i end up marking in my mind 9/10 as "seen already".WouldYouKindly said:Seriously, I will never understand why people pay for porn anymore... unless your fetish is so ridiculously uncommon that you can't find a site that has a decent selection of it for free.
Oh I didn't mean that stuff I'm pretty sure that would come under advertising I mean sites like redtube etc (I'm not naming anymore because I don't know if I'm allowed on here)Zykon TheLich said:No. While I'm sure there is plenty of pirated porn out there, the makers usually post free samples on their own websites, either for DL or streaming. Not that I know about that sort of thing. >_> <_<MrStab said:Hang on so the majority of people on this site jump to the defense of devs and publishers when it comes to pirating pretty much any medium, but when it comes to porn it's okay because it's porn? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't streaming porn free from whatever site you're using still illegal because it's a form of public distribution? Doesn't that make it a form of piracy even if you aren't just downloading it?
I'm certainly surprised we haven't seen them start to crop up given the rising dominance of digital distribution, it's becoming less and less of an issue that stores wouldn't stock them.UnnDunn said:This just makes me wonder why exactly console manufacturers do not license adult content. The median age of gamers has gone up, and cable companies offer adult content behind a paywall, so why not adult videogames?
It's only piracy is the public distribution is done illegally. It's hard to say that a company distributing its own videos for free is committing piracy or people are committing piracy for downloading it.MrStab said:Hang on so the majority of people on this site jump to the defense of devs and publishers when it comes to pirating pretty much any medium, but when it comes to porn it's okay because it's porn? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't streaming porn free from whatever site you're using still illegal because it's a form of public distribution? Doesn't that make it a form of piracy even if you aren't just downloading it?
I'm not pro-porn piracy any more than I am pro-anything else, but porn companies do give out a lot of free "samples" that one can find legitimately through their websites and/or through partnered sites.Andy Chalk said:To be serious about it for a moment (seriously, guys) the porn industry is facing piracy challenges of the sort that would give videogame executives nightmares. The content is widely available, even to people who don't know anything more than how to launch their browser, there's virtually nothing to differentiate it ("Scale Bustin' Babes 41" is a real title, by the way, and I doubt very much that anyone could convince me it's meaningfully different from Big Naturals 18) and almost none of us "need" a particular title or series anyway, and perhaps worst of all, there's no real interest in fighting to protect porn copyrights, because hey, it's porn. You may get indignant because people are ripping off the latest creative endeavour by Irrational or Bungie or Mojang, but how many people are really going to stand up and express outrage because the makers of "10 Man Cum Slam" aren't getting paid? Very few, I suspect.
(And yes, that is a real title too.)
"Allow" is kind of the wrong word. This isn't truly an app for the PS3, and it almost certainly won't be an app for the 360. All it is on the PS3 is a website that's optimised for the PS3 that you access from its browser. Hell, this isn't much different from some porn website advertising that, with the 360's new browser, you could stream porn from them. I think the Escapist had an article on this, too. The only difference is one's optimised. But what, then, would these companies do to not "allow" these sites?Father Time said:Anyone else thinks it's hypocritical that they'll allow this but won't allow Ao games?
This sounds like an experienced opinion. And if that's the case, how can you watch porn on a Nintendo console? I would imagine Mario would be watching you all the time, and it'd be hard to get...things going.j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:Wii U already lets you watch Spankwire and Xvideo through the browser for free Though to be fair, I think any console with a browser does.
Can't you just, you know, block the camera? Put something in front of it?Britishfan said:Wait, there's going to be porn showing on a device that will have a permanently on 3D camera? hmmmmmm.......
Oh quite quite, again while I'm not one of those "everything the government does is bad!" nutters, I can agree that they're likely to at least attempt doing a lot of underhanded stuff if they think they might be able to get away with it. On the one hand, I'm a big on freedom of expression and thought, but on the other, people can't be trusted. I have no illusions that the government have our best interests at heart. So it's a bit of a personal impasse, totally checked power is just as bad as unchecked power when it comes to the government, sometimes you need to bend the rules for something that may end up benefiting the greater good, but other times they're doing it totally for their own benefit.frizzlebyte said:-snip-
It does sound pretty paranoid, doesn't it? Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of our "patriot" loonies who thinks the government is automatically bad, or is "out to get us," take our guns away, steal our freedoms, or whatever. But, I also would not have thought the US government would have justified warrantless wiretaps against its own citizens, been given powers to access library book checkout records, advocating torture of prisoners, disregard for the Geneva conventions...elvor0 said:Well yeah, but that /does/ sound pretty paranoid, I'm pretty sure the government aren't spying on me through my webcam. Scrap that, I'm sure they're not. I mean seriously, the amount of man power they'd need to monitor is absolutely ludicrous, when at the end of the day the most noteworthy thing they're going to see is me having a shifty.
My point is that just blindly figuring the government has *your* interest at heart and would restrain itself, or be restrained, from doing harm to its own citizens, is something that I learned long ago not to take for granted. I'm also very deeply influenced by Enlightenment philosophy, so my ideas about government, and the vigilance and skepticism that I feel ordinary citizens should have against their government, whatever form it takes, come from that corpus of knowledge.
Well, you do, unless you're an evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil pirate!47_Ronin said:Wait... people actually pay for porn?