Streaming Porn Service Coming to Next Xbox

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Any word on an app for the oculus rift?
I'm surprised they did this considering they're policy decisions of late but I guess they figured they'd make money.
 

RicoADF

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frizzlebyte said:
The thing that creeps me out is, how long before we *don't* have a choice? Not out of direct compulsion, but rather having no alternative but to live a Luddite's existence? For instance, show me a laptop or cell phone that doesn't have a camera and a microphone in it somewhere. And how often does one cover that camera, or turn off that microphone?

A lot fewer than I'm comfortable with, I'd wager.

It's that illusion of choice that makes society complacent, I think.
*Looks at my Hybrid Tablet with a camera, looks over to my right at my work laptop with a camera, looks to my left at my Galaxy S4 smartphone with a camera* Meh, that's what privacy laws are for. I've never understood the US's population being so paranoid of their own government, to be that paranoid your either:
1) Have a really shit government that you need to get rid of (a possibility)
2) Have done something wrong and are afraid of getting caught

Don't get me wrong I'm all for privacy laws, but remember the number of people your talking about, collecting it about everyone 24/7 would require a system that not even the US can support and would be an information overload. There is such a thing as too much information.
 

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RicoADF said:
frizzlebyte said:
The thing that creeps me out is, how long before we *don't* have a choice? Not out of direct compulsion, but rather having no alternative but to live a Luddite's existence? For instance, show me a laptop or cell phone that doesn't have a camera and a microphone in it somewhere. And how often does one cover that camera, or turn off that microphone?

A lot fewer than I'm comfortable with, I'd wager.

It's that illusion of choice that makes society complacent, I think.
*Looks at my Hybrid Tablet with a camera, looks over to my right at my work laptop with a camera, looks to my left at my Galaxy S4 smartphone with a camera* Meh, that's what privacy laws are for. I've never understood the US's population being so paranoid of their own government, to be that paranoid your either:
1) Have a really shit government that you need to get rid of (a possibility)
2) Have done something wrong and are afraid of getting caught

Don't get me wrong I'm all for privacy laws, but remember the number of people your talking about, collecting it about everyone 24/7 would require a system that not even the US can support and would be an information overload. There is such a thing as too much information.
elvor0 said:
Well yeah, but that /does/ sound pretty paranoid, I'm pretty sure the government aren't spying on me through my webcam. Scrap that, I'm sure they're not. I mean seriously, the amount of man power they'd need to monitor is absolutely ludicrous, when at the end of the day the most noteworthy thing they're going to see is me having a shifty.
It does sound pretty paranoid, doesn't it? Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of our "patriot" loonies who thinks the government is automatically bad, or is "out to get us," take our guns away, steal our freedoms, or whatever. But, I also would not have thought the US government would have justified warrantless wiretaps against its own citizens, been given powers to access library book checkout records, advocating torture of prisoners, disregard for the Geneva conventions...

My point is that just blindly figuring the government has *your* interest at heart and would restrain itself, or be restrained, from doing harm to its own citizens, is something that I learned long ago not to take for granted. I'm also very deeply influenced by Enlightenment philosophy, so my ideas about government, and the vigilance and skepticism that I feel ordinary citizens should have against their government, whatever form it takes, come from that corpus of knowledge.

@RicoADF: Being paranoid about the government is part of the USA's history, really. Though it is starting to wane among people my age and younger, we tend to be very conservative when it comes to providing the government with power, as we tend to see it as an institution that, given sufficient leeway, will start to abuse its people to remain in power.

And the part about info overload would be great, except the NSA (basically a cryptological agency tasked with signals intelligence gathering) is building a new datacenter that is suspected to be purpose built to gather *all* the data flowing across the communication networks of the world, and to store it (for what is unknown, though there is a big push within the CIA to find a way to decipher encrypted communications). There are even former NSA and CIA guys who opposed its construction because of how dangerous they think it is for freedom in the USA.

And all this info came from news sources and tech magazines that I read here in the US, rather than the tin-foil-hat-wearing community on the internet. They scare me... :)
 

rapidoud

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Legion said:
Does anybody else find it strange that a bigger deal hasn't been made over this?

Not because it should be an issue, but considering PG13 sex scenes in games cause such outrage half of the time, I'd expect the "angry ignorant parent" collective to be causing a fuss and claiming that console developers are trying to sell porn to kids.
They're unaware. If this were to hit mainstream news, then there would be an uproar from social conservatives about 'think of the children' and all the other nonsense. But based on the reaction thus far, it seems like they don't have any awareness of the issue.
 

FalloutJack

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I'm sure absolutely nothing will go wrong with this. Songs and legends will be made in testimony to the way in which everything was beautiful and nobody got hurt. Yay, there shall be no rampant complaints of any sort or, in fact, legal action taken against the affiliated. NO HARM WHATSOEVER shall befall anybody - including customers - who associate with this AT ALL!
 
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MrStab said:
Hang on so the majority of people on this site jump to the defense of devs and publishers when it comes to pirating pretty much any medium, but when it comes to porn it's okay because it's porn? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't streaming porn free from whatever site you're using still illegal because it's a form of public distribution? Doesn't that make it a form of piracy even if you aren't just downloading it?
No. While I'm sure there is plenty of pirated porn out there, the makers usually post free samples on their own websites, either for DL or streaming. Not that I know about that sort of thing. >_> <_<
 

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This can't be good for the xbox brand name and reputation.

Pretty stupid thing to do IMO.

Looks like MS is whore out the xbox in every way they can - no pun intended.
 

Strazdas

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JEBWrench said:
People... people pay for adult videos?

I'm confused again. Halp.
yes. they actually pay for it, download it and uplaod it for all of us to see, thne get sued over it and get it taken down and the cycle repeats.


WouldYouKindly said:
Seriously, I will never understand why people pay for porn anymore... unless your fetish is so ridiculously uncommon that you can't find a site that has a decent selection of it for free.
actually there is extremely limited amount of videos fo any decent quality out there for free. whnever i browse such videos i end up marking in my mind 9/10 as "seen already".
Also the fetish does not have to be weird. I have a Jeans fetish, i think a woman in jeans is more sexy than a naked woman. you know how many sites provide the content of anything in this direction? 2. on the whole internet. and those have like 8 women each. that wont last long now will it.
 

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Zykon TheLich said:
MrStab said:
Hang on so the majority of people on this site jump to the defense of devs and publishers when it comes to pirating pretty much any medium, but when it comes to porn it's okay because it's porn? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't streaming porn free from whatever site you're using still illegal because it's a form of public distribution? Doesn't that make it a form of piracy even if you aren't just downloading it?
No. While I'm sure there is plenty of pirated porn out there, the makers usually post free samples on their own websites, either for DL or streaming. Not that I know about that sort of thing. >_> <_<
Oh I didn't mean that stuff I'm pretty sure that would come under advertising I mean sites like redtube etc (I'm not naming anymore because I don't know if I'm allowed on here)
 

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UnnDunn said:
This just makes me wonder why exactly console manufacturers do not license adult content. The median age of gamers has gone up, and cable companies offer adult content behind a paywall, so why not adult videogames?
I'm certainly surprised we haven't seen them start to crop up given the rising dominance of digital distribution, it's becoming less and less of an issue that stores wouldn't stock them.

It's easy to see why an adult game would be desirable on a console, but they would probably be more at home on the PC. One escapist already mentioned the one hand issue, which is easy to avoid if you can get good mouse control, holding and using a controller with one hand seems like it would be a pain.

On the other hand that could be solved by peripherals, looking at the Japanese H-game market (which appears to be fairly robust) quite a few incorporate special "controllers" that look like they would give...well...some degree of immersion.

Actually, final thought makes this whole thing easy: instead of questioning why there isn't a new push for adult content videogames, why not question why the Japanese games, (that already have companies and franchises dedicated to making adult content) aren't getting a push to be translated and shipped to new markets?
 

Something Amyss

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MrStab said:
Hang on so the majority of people on this site jump to the defense of devs and publishers when it comes to pirating pretty much any medium, but when it comes to porn it's okay because it's porn? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't streaming porn free from whatever site you're using still illegal because it's a form of public distribution? Doesn't that make it a form of piracy even if you aren't just downloading it?
It's only piracy is the public distribution is done illegally. It's hard to say that a company distributing its own videos for free is committing piracy or people are committing piracy for downloading it.

I mean, maybe you've just never looked for porn but there are tons of free videos out there to be obtained legally.

Maybe some of the "lol people pay for porn" people are pirates. Hell, maybe most of them are. But it's not a given.

In that light....

Andy Chalk said:
To be serious about it for a moment (seriously, guys) the porn industry is facing piracy challenges of the sort that would give videogame executives nightmares. The content is widely available, even to people who don't know anything more than how to launch their browser, there's virtually nothing to differentiate it ("Scale Bustin' Babes 41" is a real title, by the way, and I doubt very much that anyone could convince me it's meaningfully different from Big Naturals 18) and almost none of us "need" a particular title or series anyway, and perhaps worst of all, there's no real interest in fighting to protect porn copyrights, because hey, it's porn. You may get indignant because people are ripping off the latest creative endeavour by Irrational or Bungie or Mojang, but how many people are really going to stand up and express outrage because the makers of "10 Man Cum Slam" aren't getting paid? Very few, I suspect.

(And yes, that is a real title too.)
I'm not pro-porn piracy any more than I am pro-anything else, but porn companies do give out a lot of free "samples" that one can find legitimately through their websites and/or through partnered sites.

However, I've always thought pursuing piracy to be a bit of a waste (again, I'm not saying piracy is right or cool or justified because I don't think it is, just that trying to enforce it is like trying to drain the ocean with a straw), so I'm not going to be any more incensed here.

Still, porn companies themselves make it possible to go the rest of your life without paying for a single porn title. I'm not saying you SHOULD, but you certainly CAN. Not to mention the rise of the self-distributed porn that's one of the big enemies of the porn industry. Honestly, if you could make as good a game in your bedroom as EA could publish, games would be in as much trouble as pornography.

Father Time said:
Anyone else thinks it's hypocritical that they'll allow this but won't allow Ao games?
"Allow" is kind of the wrong word. This isn't truly an app for the PS3, and it almost certainly won't be an app for the 360. All it is on the PS3 is a website that's optimised for the PS3 that you access from its browser. Hell, this isn't much different from some porn website advertising that, with the 360's new browser, you could stream porn from them. I think the Escapist had an article on this, too. The only difference is one's optimised. But what, then, would these companies do to not "allow" these sites?
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Wii U already lets you watch Spankwire and Xvideo through the browser for free :p Though to be fair, I think any console with a browser does.
This sounds like an experienced opinion. And if that's the case, how can you watch porn on a Nintendo console? I would imagine Mario would be watching you all the time, and it'd be hard to get...things going.
 

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Britishfan said:
Wait, there's going to be porn showing on a device that will have a permanently on 3D camera? hmmmmmm.......
Can't you just, you know, block the camera? Put something in front of it?

But, hey, if MS really wanna watch people masterbate...

In all seriousness though, I'm surprised this didn't happen with this generation of consoles.

The Sega Saturn was partially so much more popular in Japan because Sega allowed porn games on the console, whereas Sony and Nintendo' consoles wouldn't allow it.
 

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frizzlebyte said:
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elvor0 said:
Well yeah, but that /does/ sound pretty paranoid, I'm pretty sure the government aren't spying on me through my webcam. Scrap that, I'm sure they're not. I mean seriously, the amount of man power they'd need to monitor is absolutely ludicrous, when at the end of the day the most noteworthy thing they're going to see is me having a shifty.
It does sound pretty paranoid, doesn't it? Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of our "patriot" loonies who thinks the government is automatically bad, or is "out to get us," take our guns away, steal our freedoms, or whatever. But, I also would not have thought the US government would have justified warrantless wiretaps against its own citizens, been given powers to access library book checkout records, advocating torture of prisoners, disregard for the Geneva conventions...

My point is that just blindly figuring the government has *your* interest at heart and would restrain itself, or be restrained, from doing harm to its own citizens, is something that I learned long ago not to take for granted. I'm also very deeply influenced by Enlightenment philosophy, so my ideas about government, and the vigilance and skepticism that I feel ordinary citizens should have against their government, whatever form it takes, come from that corpus of knowledge.
Oh quite quite, again while I'm not one of those "everything the government does is bad!" nutters, I can agree that they're likely to at least attempt doing a lot of underhanded stuff if they think they might be able to get away with it. On the one hand, I'm a big on freedom of expression and thought, but on the other, people can't be trusted. I have no illusions that the government have our best interests at heart. So it's a bit of a personal impasse, totally checked power is just as bad as unchecked power when it comes to the government, sometimes you need to bend the rules for something that may end up benefiting the greater good, but other times they're doing it totally for their own benefit.

Sometimes checking that dudes library checkouts may help catch a murderer, while other times it may just be some poor University student doing a paper who gets his door busted down by the FBI. And because it's so black and white I'm not entirely sure how to feel about it. But then I don't really lean either way when it comes to the political scale. I prefer to cherry pick certain elements that I feel benefit society. The people should undoubtedly have the power to keep the government in check, but the general masses may not always understand what they're rallying against.

In times of peril, sometimes bad things need to be done in order to help preserve peace, if a convicted terrorist won't give up information that may save lives, then sometimes you may need to torture them to get that information and drastic methods need to be taken. It's unfortunetly the world we live in and sometimes those measures need to be taken for the greater good. It's horrific, but for certain cases, that person has given up their human rights when they start bombing innocent civilians.

Obviously you don't know me, so try not to take that as some "those dang terrorists!" ideology, it's not, it's just awkward to put it into words, especially in a forum format, due to the way my political ideology is so conflicting in certain areas. To put it succinctly sometimes the Government has to ignore what the people think in order to get the job done and others the people should most definitely have the power rally against them, but don't blindy make opinions on things without considering all approaches.

But that NSA information centre is certainly worrying, this is Metal Gear Solid Patriot style stuff we're talking here. And no-one should have /that/ kind of power.
 

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Next XBOX leading the new generation confirmed. Who needs PlayStation 4, who cares about always on DRM? Clearly this is what gaming needs. This is the future, folks.

47_Ronin said:
Wait... people actually pay for porn?
Well, you do, unless you're an evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil pirate!

You sidin' with dem pirates?


Well obviously this move for the XBOX makes sense, they clearly have a history with porn. With Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball for the original XBOX, and everyone's favourite XBOX 360 shooting game.
XBOX is for shooters.