Study Claims Profanity Causes Aggression
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Can I be the one who says "It's just a bunch of words, go home, they only mean something if you want them to." ?
Honestly if swearing is what causes violent aggression in kids, then shame on their parents for a horrible upbringing. I could't even say the word "ain't" in my house without a scolding from my mother.
Honestly if swearing is what causes violent aggression in kids, then shame on their parents for a horrible upbringing. I could't even say the word "ain't" in my house without a scolding from my mother.
Cursing is just using words that we designated as bad for no real reason. "Fuck" is bad but "Sex" is fine. "Shit" and "crap" aren't good while "poop" is more childish. "Ass" has the same relationship as those two to "Butt." "*****" is used as an insult when it means female dog. And "****" is supposed to be bad while words like "pussy" are fine. I, for one, love the word ****. That's not me being sarcastic either. I just don't understand why some words are singled out for being bad... it's just silly.
I think the people who carried out this study neglected to account for several important variables which makes me question their credibility.
This doesn't make any sense. For one thing, if you talk to people that curse a lot, that's a huge and obvious sampling bias. Isn't it reasonable to assume that people who have anger and aggression issues might be more prone to using aggressive language (like cursing) and engaging in violent pastimes (like violent video games)?
Correlation =/= Causation. It's like the first rule of doing any kind of statistics-based research. Why would anybody think this is even close to legiti-OH, WAIT.
Yeah, Mormons? Why don't you stop trying to moralize to everybody like a bunch of fucking clowns, and--oh, I don't know--DO SOME REAL FUCKING SCIENCE FOR A CHANGE GODDAMNIT IT MAKES ME SO FUCKING ANGRY FUCK-PISS-****-***** -GRAAAAAAAAAGGHHHHH!
Tomorrows Headline: Mormons doing fakey science just to moralize to everyone like a bunch of clowns causes aggression and profanity in everyone else.
Correlation =/= Causation. It's like the first rule of doing any kind of statistics-based research. Why would anybody think this is even close to legiti-OH, WAIT.
(-_-)Andy Chalk said:
Yeah, Mormons? Why don't you stop trying to moralize to everybody like a bunch of fucking clowns, and--oh, I don't know--DO SOME REAL FUCKING SCIENCE FOR A CHANGE GODDAMNIT IT MAKES ME SO FUCKING ANGRY FUCK-PISS-****-***** -GRAAAAAAAAAGGHHHHH!
Tomorrows Headline: Mormons doing fakey science just to moralize to everyone like a bunch of clowns causes aggression and profanity in everyone else.
No fucking shit?
WHen the fuck has anyone said. "I fucking love you. Like that shit is as big as god damn god and if any ***** gets in the way of this cunting love i'll fucking eviscerate that asshole like there is no fucking tomorrow." to prove that you love someone... at least in a non ironic or satirical sense.
Might use that for a story i'm thinking of.
WHen the fuck has anyone said. "I fucking love you. Like that shit is as big as god damn god and if any ***** gets in the way of this cunting love i'll fucking eviscerate that asshole like there is no fucking tomorrow." to prove that you love someone... at least in a non ironic or satirical sense.
Might use that for a story i'm thinking of.
This is kinda sorta how I see it. The word itself is just a word, people can say fuck fuckity fuck fuck all day long for all I care, it's not going to cause aggression.Cheshire the Cat said:
Now, if we're talking about aggression in small children, I could see the "monkey see monkey do" aspect in which if a child hears said word used in an aggressive manner enough, they themselves might use it in an aggressive form, but the aggressive nature would have to be brought on by something else, not the expletive itself.
By the time we reach our teenage years though, I think most people who are aggressive are going to be aggressive, and passives passive. It has nothing to do with how much we swear. (hell I know some extremely passive people who curse on a constant basis)
I curse like a sailor on the River Styx, but I vent out my aggression through exercise.
As far as video games are concerned, there's a good chance that most of the "problem people" in question are too young to be playing those games in the first place. I couldn't stand Xbox Live and had to quit when it seemed impossible to have decent folks on there in a random match without some loudmouth with the mentality of a baby kangaroo ruining the entire experience.
I think anonymity plays a much greater role in these social problems, especially in today's media-centered world. Just look at the various online/phone conversations expressed solely in text. For every ounce of civility, there is an ocean of unrest, bigotry, immaturity, and online-ego that boils into textual aggression. Without someone to slap their hands (e.g. a moderator or admin), the behavior continues. Now you know what's funny? I think life has its own moderators and admins in the household. I wonder, oh how I wonder, who these people could be, and how they could positively affect kids...
As far as video games are concerned, there's a good chance that most of the "problem people" in question are too young to be playing those games in the first place. I couldn't stand Xbox Live and had to quit when it seemed impossible to have decent folks on there in a random match without some loudmouth with the mentality of a baby kangaroo ruining the entire experience.
I think anonymity plays a much greater role in these social problems, especially in today's media-centered world. Just look at the various online/phone conversations expressed solely in text. For every ounce of civility, there is an ocean of unrest, bigotry, immaturity, and online-ego that boils into textual aggression. Without someone to slap their hands (e.g. a moderator or admin), the behavior continues. Now you know what's funny? I think life has its own moderators and admins in the household. I wonder, oh how I wonder, who these people could be, and how they could positively affect kids...
Interesting. I'm definitely no expert, but he could easily have it backwards. People who are interested in games that are violent and full of profanity are actually more violent in nature than someone who is not interested in violent videogames that are full of profanity. I guess what I mean is: someone who is violent will seek out these types of games. Though, I have to say, I have been exposed to profanity my whole life. But I choose not to use it when I know it's inappropriate. And I don't go out of my way to use it, or play violent videogames. That is just me, I suppose there is the chance I could just be better than everyone that participated in the study. 
So, wait, the conservative Mormon university finds that swearing causes violence? Shocking. Seriously, I am completely and utterly astounded that such a thing could ever occur.
On a more serious note, even an undergrad knows that correlation does not equal causality. It's the first thing you learn in research methodology - it's hammered into you from day one, and any self-respecting psychologist doing research should jump off a cliff if they ever claim such. But I guess proper methodology in the field of psychology would come second to following the tenets of the Mormon faith. Credit to science, these folks are not.
On a more serious note, even an undergrad knows that correlation does not equal causality. It's the first thing you learn in research methodology - it's hammered into you from day one, and any self-respecting psychologist doing research should jump off a cliff if they ever claim such. But I guess proper methodology in the field of psychology would come second to following the tenets of the Mormon faith. Credit to science, these folks are not.
no offense to mormons as a whole, but they think that an entire ancient Jewish civilization existed on the American continent during the times of Christ. Im not really gonna take any scientific research they put out with any sort of credibility.
wow. Just wow. These "scientists" just keep getting stupider. This is the dumbest crap I've ever heard.
Watch your language, there are young adults on this website!JediMB said:
OT: Maybe the people who use profanity are aggressive as a "fuck you" to people who demonize one word more than another when they mean the same damn thing. Exhibit A: My profanity-abstaining friend and I magically stub our toes at the exact same time when we're hanging out. I say "Dammit!" while he or she cries out "Darnit!" We both mean the exact same thing, but somehow what I said is worse.
I have to say, I only swear when I am feeling more aggressive. It doesn't cause me to feel more aggressive. If anything it helps me calm down since it serves as a signal as to how I am feeling.
But study does what studies do, prove the earth is flat regardless of evidence.
But study does what studies do, prove the earth is flat regardless of evidence.
I've looked at this "honor code" before. NO CAFFEINE! What the hell, BYU!?!CM156 said:Andy Chalk said:
I kid, I kid.
This is very different then the Honor Code I have at my school. Glad I didn't go to BYU.
Now, on topic, I don't know. I don't use profanities much myself. Still, that's kind of a stretch for me. Just kinda.
Oh, they also suspended their star basketball player for having sex with his girlfriend. Make sense out of THAT.