Superman Returns Director Explains What Went Wrong

[Draksila]

Actually, with regards to the comics at least, Kal-el's kind of a dipstick. That's why Bruce/Batman doesn't hang out with him anymore; something bad would happen, Superman would go charging in fists first and fall into supervillain's trap, Batman would have to be the cavalry and bail him out. Bruce finally threw up his hands at one point and said 'You want to think with your fists, fine. Do it alone.'

Don't get me wrong, Superman's not an idiot by any means, but he's too complacent in his invulnerability and as such doesn't tend to look before he leaps. So, not stupid, but not incredibly smart either.

It's not that he is dumb or anything, he frequently works with alien tech and deduces things that are going on, the only reason he gets caught unaware sometimes or is perceived to be thinking with his fists is that he comes to rely on his powers and likes to use his tried and true methods for a quick ending.

Imagine being trained and equipped with guns, bombs, jetpack, and consistently fighting people who don't plan to encounter you, you would have a certain plan heading into situations, problem is you occasionally run across someone who is also trained and has equipment, or your equipment stops working at the wrong time. And if Superman approached every situation with the thought line "well what if they have a..." it would slow down his reactions, and more innocent bystanders would get hurt.

And Batman has never done that. There is a thought bubble quote by Batman that says, "When I look at Clark I see an unstoppable force for good, and I'll be damned if I let him fall before I do." prior to him joining Superman in battle against a Throng of villains in Superman/Batman vol.1

I can respect that thought process. However, with regards to your last statement, you're pulling from the newer lore and I'm not. Superman/Batman just started in 2003; as the lore goes, it's rather recent. I'm talking about the old 'World's Finest' comic line that ended back in '86. While I'm obviously not quoting, there did come a point in those comics that Bruce got fed up with Clark's 'charge first, think later' tendencies.

Granted, all this has been retconned out of existence at this point, but just thought I'd clear that up. ... though, come to think of it, 'clearing up' the DC continuity is something that doesn't seem to be possible, so maybe it's best just to note that there's at least a dozen different versions of Bruce, Clark, Oliver, and any other given DC hero out there and that a lot of them are not at all similar to each other. WTB better continuity editors for DC, stat.

 

[Rocketboy13]

Granted, all this has been retconned out of existence at this point, but just thought I'd clear that up. ... though, come to think of it, 'clearing up' the DC continuity is something that doesn't seem to be possible, so maybe it's best just to note that there's at least a dozen different versions of Bruce, Clark, Oliver, and any other given DC hero out there and that a lot of them are not at all similar to each other. WTB better continuity editors for DC, stat.

I will concur with you on that, especially considering there is a Superman who was raised in Stalinist Russia who fought a Batman that wore a fuzzy hat:
http://theinquisitiveloon.blogspot.com/2010/10/superman-red-son.html

 

[Andy of Comix Inc]

Every other heroes movies are all about what they do, not what they think

"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me" -Batman

 

[RelexCryo]

Superman pushed a mountain of Kryptonite into space. A freaking mountain.

Kryptonite is one of the only things keeping Superman from being totally invincible, and therefore boring. And he pushed a freaking mountain of it into space. When he stands next a hand sized chunk of it, he is supposed to have difficulty standing up. Lifting a mountain of it is supposed to be beyond his abilities.

Superman went from being ridiculously powerful- with one weakness- to being ridiculously powerful, period. Apparently he is only as weak to Kryptonite as he chooses to be.

Uh . . .. yeah Bryan Singer, the problem with the movie is that when superman can land on an island and get his ass kicked by thugs in one scene, and then 20 minutes later lift up the whole island into orbit, it sorta doesn't work.

Basically, this^.

 

[Jaebird]

He also said that the movie's third act, where Lex Luthor stabs Superman with a shard of kryptonite in a scene deliberately designed to resemble Christian religious imagery...

It's probably because I'm not an overtly religious person, but that thought never came to mind when I saw that scene. It just looked , to me, like something Luthor would do. Now, the season nine finale of Smallville? THAT was too much; along with every other messianic message that was dumped all over Clark in the later half of the series.

 

[Colt Herrera]

Or how about you kill him in the end and show more than one dimension to the character? Then start out the sequel as to how to bring him back, then truly reboot the series where Superman deals with his own mortality.