They definitely want to kill her in order to stick it to the critics of their draconian policies.
Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion
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If the law says no abortions without exceptional medical need and bearing the doomed child has health implications for the mother that are not significantly worse than pregnancy with a healthy fetus, then the judges' reasoning is potentially sound.
The problem here is not the judges (although I'd warrant Texas judges probably tend to be sympathetic to conservative causes), but the legislators and the shitty law they passed. I think there is a strong rationale that we should not always rely on judges to bail us out from the terrible laws that governments pass, because politicians need to be held accountable for shit laws.
I'm really not sure about that. If the fetus is already dead and if delivering it is an outright danger to the mother then what more could possibly be required for it to classify as a medical need. The abortion was also already granted before the Texas supreme court intervened out of ideological rather than legal motives.
As a basic premise, abortion is banned in Texas except with an exception granted by the courts. When the woman won that exception in the courts, the Texas AG (Ken Paxton, wanker extraordinaire) referred the case to the Texas Supreme Court. This seems to me like standard procedure.
The fetus is surely not currently dead. If it were, I seriously doubt there would be a legal issue because it would probably not meet the definition of abortion that the law proscribes.
The fetus is not currently dead, but has trisomy 18, which means it is highly unlikely to survive. Delivery poses a high risk to Cox's life or fertility according to doctors.
Doctors have also said that if the fetus were to die, they could induce labour but even then couldn't perform a dilation & evacuation, because the vagueness of Texas law would put them in danger. Inducing labour is a more dangerous procedure for Cox due to past C-Sections.
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Texas mother sued to obtain procedure after learning of non-viable pregnancy, but state supreme court overruled decision
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There Have Been Tens of Thousands of Rape-Induced Pregnancies Post-Roe
In 14 states that have banned abortion since June 2022, an estimated 519,981 rapes “were associated with 64,565 pregnancies.”
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Brittany Watts’ Nurse Reported Her Miscarriage to Cops. Now Congress Wants Biden to Do Something
"Irreparable harm has already been done and we must ensure this never happens to anyone again," a new letter signed by 150+ Congress members states.
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It takes a special kind of evil to help somebody through the worst moments of their life and then call the cops on them over bullshit
Alabama Bill Would Add a Rape Exception to Abortion Ban and...Castrate Rapists?
The castration bit of the bill seems to double down on an existing law, but still, isn’t the goal here to stop state-sanctioned reproductive violence?
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With the Roe v. Wade overturned, an Alabama amendment made in 2018 had the Supreme Court rule that embryos out of the uterus are living children, effectively halting fertilization clinics in the state from operating without risk of lawsuit or criminal charges.
So which is, Alabama? Do you want more couples to have children or not?
So which is, Alabama? Do you want more couples to have children or not?
They were too much in a rush to be "God-fearin' folk" to think about consequences.
So maybe don't create laws based purely on morality then...
Morality without any consequentialism is nothing but "good intentions", and we already know which road is paved with them...
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It's fascinating how the Republican position has become "people who don't want kids should be FORCED to have them, and people who want kids shouldn't be allowed to have any."
And this is somehow the family values party.
And this is somehow the family values party.
Enforcing "morals" without any thought to the consequences is evil.
They're an entire political party of punishment fetishists.
I mean, if you want to have a battle of aphorisms, you're arguing for "the ends justify the means".
With the caveat "if you can't reach your goals without killing people" attached to both halves of that. It's only advocates of abortion that pretend the pro-life position is a lie and it has nothing to do with killing being a problem. "Stop killing people to optimize your personal life" is pretty consistent across both options, you shouldn't struggle to understand it's not a contradiction.
There are no ends; just the day by day struggle to make the world a bit less miserable.