The one thing that's pretty shitty about Nintendo's online service is that they've put backing up saves behind a paywall.
Don't forget they're putting back-up saves behind paywalls.Vigormortis said:Hmm. Uh huh. Yeah? Oh, I see. Hmmm...
So, a quick run down:
* I don't get to keep any of the 'free' games they're 'giving' me.
* The plan doesn't seem to include any real, meaningful community features.
* The Virtual Console is dead.
* I'll still have to rely on those fucking Friend Codes.
* No way to directly message friends, or even interact in any meaningful way.
* I'll still have to use that bafflingly stupid mobile app bullshit to get any sort of voice chat going in online games.
* I have to pay $20 for this shit.
You don't to keep any of the 'free' games that Sony or Micrsoft give you either lol.Vigormortis said:So, a quick run down:
* I don't get to keep any of the 'free' games they're 'giving' me.
Well actually you're wrong. You get to keep 360 games that you get from Live Gold and I have to tell you that 360 games are a little newer than NES games.Yoshi178 said:You don't to keep any of the 'free' games that Sony or Micrsoft give you either lol.Vigormortis said:So, a quick run down:
* I don't get to keep any of the 'free' games they're 'giving' me.
Well actually, they don't even make 360 games anymore do they?Mothro said:Well actually you're wrong. You get to keep 360 games that you get from Live Gold and I have to tell you that 360 games are a little newer than NES games.Yoshi178 said:You don't to keep any of the 'free' games that Sony or Micrsoft give you either lol.Vigormortis said:So, a quick run down:
* I don't get to keep any of the 'free' games they're 'giving' me.
They still let you keep 360 games that you get through Live Gold. This month you get two 360 games: Sega Vintage Collection: Streets of Rage and Vanquish. https://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/games-with-goldYoshi178 said:Well actually, they don't even make 360 games anymore do they?Mothro said:Well actually you're wrong. You get to keep 360 games that you get from Live Gold and I have to tell you that 360 games are a little newer than NES games.Yoshi178 said:You don't to keep any of the 'free' games that Sony or Micrsoft give you either lol.Vigormortis said:So, a quick run down:
* I don't get to keep any of the 'free' games they're 'giving' me.
its also a silly comparison. well Wii didn't force me to pay for online like 360 did!
the point is on Xbox live NOW they don't let you keep those "free" games anymore.
yeah but only if you pay the online fee n the first place. those games aren't free at all.Mothro said:They still let you keep 360 games that you get through Live Gold. This month you get two 360 games: Sega Vintage Collection: Streets of Rage and Vanquish. https://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/games-with-goldYoshi178 said:Well actually, they don't even make 360 games anymore do they?Mothro said:Well actually you're wrong. You get to keep 360 games that you get from Live Gold and I have to tell you that 360 games are a little newer than NES games.Yoshi178 said:You don't to keep any of the 'free' games that Sony or Micrsoft give you either lol.Vigormortis said:So, a quick run down:
* I don't get to keep any of the 'free' games they're 'giving' me.
its also a silly comparison. well Wii didn't force me to pay for online like 360 did!
the point is on Xbox live NOW they don't let you keep those "free" games anymore.
Alright then, bye Felicia. Just don't loiter in the lobby yelling.Vigormortis said:Hmm. Uh huh. Yeah? Oh, I see. Hmmm...
So, a quick run down:
* I don't get to keep any of the 'free' games they're 'giving' me.
* The plan doesn't seem to include any real, meaningful community features.
* The Virtual Console is dead.
* I'll still have to rely on those fucking Friend Codes.
* No way to directly message friends, or even interact in any meaningful way.
* I'll still have to use that bafflingly stupid mobile app bullshit to get any sort of voice chat going in online games.
* I have to pay $20 for this shit.
According to the web page for "Games with Gold" they let you keep them...just not play them. Which kind of defeats the purposeYoshi178 said:Well actually, they don't even make 360 games anymore do they?
its also a silly comparison. well Wii didn't force me to pay for online like 360 did!
the point is on Xbox live NOW they don't let you keep those "free" games anymore.
with 360 games with gold you get to keep them if you stop paying for xbox live. with Xbox One, you only keep them if you keep paying for the Xbox Live gold subscription or buy the game outright.Aiddon said:Alright then, bye Felicia. Just don't loiter in the lobby yelling.Vigormortis said:Hmm. Uh huh. Yeah? Oh, I see. Hmmm...
So, a quick run down:
* I don't get to keep any of the 'free' games they're 'giving' me.
* The plan doesn't seem to include any real, meaningful community features.
* The Virtual Console is dead.
* I'll still have to rely on those fucking Friend Codes.
* No way to directly message friends, or even interact in any meaningful way.
* I'll still have to use that bafflingly stupid mobile app bullshit to get any sort of voice chat going in online games.
* I have to pay $20 for this shit.
According to the web page for "Games with Gold" they let you keep them...just not play them. Which kind of defeats the purposeYoshi178 said:Well actually, they don't even make 360 games anymore do they?
its also a silly comparison. well Wii didn't force me to pay for online like 360 did!
the point is on Xbox live NOW they don't let you keep those "free" games anymore.
That's just his default with-us-or-against-us reply to anybody who criticizes Nintendo. "Something something your beloved Sony". Throws in a lol or kek because how else do you end a sentence?Vigormortis said:And did I say I was okay with Live or PSN? Have I EVER, in the entirety of the many years I've been on this forum, once said I was okay with paying for PSN or Live?Yoshi178 said:You don't to keep any of the 'free' games that Sony or Micrsoft give you either lol.Vigormortis said:So, a quick run down:
* I don't get to keep any of the 'free' games they're 'giving' me.
I'll answer that for ya. No, I haven't. I've never even suggested that I would be okay with it.
which is funny because it's only not ok when Nintendo something like this according to you and most other people on this forum.Vigormortis said:often rationalizing them away as though they're 'bad' when other companies do them but 'okay' when Nintendo does,
you don't need to say it. your actions speak louder than words. you'll give Nintendo crap for doing it but not once have i ever seen you shit on Microsoft and Sony when they've been charging customers out the ass for more than a decade now.Vigormortis said:Have I EVER, in the entirety of the many years I've been on this forum, once said I was okay with paying for PSN or Live?
I'll answer that for ya. No, I haven't. I've never even suggested that I would be okay with it.
alot like how your default is to never directly reply to me, nah, you'd just rather comment about me and insult me through badmouthing me to someone else who actually is talking to me.Johnny Novgorod said:That's just his default
For fuck's sake, dude. When have I ever said that? At what point, in my entire history of being on this forum, have I said it's 'okay' for Sony or Microsoft or anyone to charge to play online?Yoshi178 said:which is funny because it's only not ok when Nintendo something like this according to you
Where? No, seriously, where? Point me to the post(s) that say, quote, "It's okay for Sony/Microsoft/whoever to do this thing but it's bad for Nintendo to do it!"and most other people on this forum.
This is so demonstrably false I can't even begin...everyone is content with Sony and Microsoft charging the player for online and has been for over a decade now.
Yes. That's clearly the issue people are bringing up. It's certainly not the:Nintendo gets in on it though? "HOW DARE THEY!"
Oh, I'm sorry. I was unaware that I had to actively go around, injecting myself into topics of conversation unrelated to Sony or Microsoft, and loudly proclaim my disdain for their paid online services, and that if I didn't I was clearly condoning their business practices. My mistake.you don't need to say it. your actions speak louder than words. you'll give Nintendo crap for doing it but not once have i ever seen you shit on Microsoft and Sony when they've been charging customers out the ass for more than a decade now.
it's only not ok when Nintendo does it.
well that's pretty childish. how about actually providing some constructive criticism rather than just mindlessly bitching?Vigormortis said:No. It's clearly just people bitching that Nintendo dared to join the online gaming thing. Yep. You nailed it.
not really. i wasn't attacking them at all.Vigormortis said:You're not even attempting legitimate counter-criticisms anymore, you're 'attacking' them based on shit they haven't even said.
Jesus, dude. What the actual fuck?
fine by me.Fiz_The_Toaster said:Okay, get back to the topic at hand and stop bickering. If there are anymore posts that continue to down this path of insults I will hand out infractions and this thread will be locked.
You have been warned.
So, just so I'm clear, does this mean I'm not allowed to address any of the points Yoshi178 has brought up or accusations he's pointed at me? Because I have no intention on 'bickering' and no intention on resorting to similar petty insults, but would like to address his post, the contents therein, and tie them back to my original comments on Nintendo's online service. Yet, I feel that doing so, based on your comment, would net me a warning, even though I'm not the one insulting other posters.Fiz_The_Toaster said:Okay, get back to the topic at hand and stop bickering. If there are anymore posts that continue to down this path of insults I will hand out infractions and this thread will be locked.
You have been warned.