Teen Arrested for Home-Made "Hot or Not" List on Facebook

The Cheezy One

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ultrachicken said:
I wasn't aware that you could be arrested for saying how attractive you find people.
Read the sources:
MyFoxChicago.com [http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/oak-park-river-forest-high-school-facebook-list-hot-girls-blonde-bombshell-hangover-20110117]

The girls were given derogatory nicknames including "New Queen," "The Designated Drunk," and "The Amazing Bisexual." Many references insult the girls by race, ethnicity and sexual orientation.

Last time I looked, racism was something you could be arrested for.

Also bear in mind this is a 'Hot' or 'Not' list, so likely he felt the need to call some girls unattractive at the same time.
 

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The Cheezy One said:
ultrachicken said:
I wasn't aware that you could be arrested for saying how attractive you find people.
Read the sources:
MyFoxChicago.com [http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/oak-park-river-forest-high-school-facebook-list-hot-girls-blonde-bombshell-hangover-20110117]

The girls were given derogatory nicknames including "New Queen," "The Designated Drunk," and "The Amazing Bisexual." Many references insult the girls by race, ethnicity and sexual orientation.

Also bear in mind this is a Hot or Not list, so likely he felt the need to call some girls unattractive at the same time.
Insults happen everyday. It shouldn't be an arrestable offense, nor even one that merits expulsion.
 

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ZiggyE said:
The Cheezy One said:
ultrachicken said:
I wasn't aware that you could be arrested for saying how attractive you find people.
Read the sources:
MyFoxChicago.com [http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/oak-park-river-forest-high-school-facebook-list-hot-girls-blonde-bombshell-hangover-20110117]

The girls were given derogatory nicknames including "New Queen," "The Designated Drunk," and "The Amazing Bisexual." Many references insult the girls by race, ethnicity and sexual orientation.

Also bear in mind this is a Hot or Not list, so likely he felt the need to call some girls unattractive at the same time.
Insults happen everyday. It shouldn't be an arrestable offense, nor even one that merits expulsion.
You shouldn't be arrested for racism? I'm sorry, but I'm not sure you understand how much this will affect those girls
 

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You shouldn't be arrested for racism?
Yes. You shouldn't. Millions of people say racist things everyday and they don't get arrested. People even post it on the internet and on TV. It's called 'Freedom of Speech'.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure you understand how much this will affect those girls
What.. hardly?

If it's a small school, the fact that lots of girls were insulted will back each other up. In fact, most of the girls, regardless if they were targeted or not would probably view the kid as a chauvinistic pig, and rightly so. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of the guys were against him too. This is a thing that would have blown over in a few months if not for the overblown reaction by the school and the police department.

If it's a large school, then it will barely concern well over half the student body.
 

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What that guy did was pretty cruel, if you're one of the ignorant school whores. XD

Honestly, I wish this happened more often, well, not the sizing up of physical interest, but one really should be prithee to what girls in their school are diseased skanks, or intolerably stupid substance abusers, would save everyone 95% of student to student relationship issues in the long run.
 

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Answer is, he didn't. I'm sure they will make some bullshit charge like disorderly conduct or something though.
 

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kogane said:
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Anarien said:
isn't this all a bit much for a stupid high school stunt?

A "stupid high school stunt"? Are you serious? Falling on your ass because you tried to ride a bike down some stairs qualifies as a "stupid high school stunt".

This was a calculated attack on adolescent females in a disgusting manner that showed no regard for their well-being or reputation.This was exploitation of minors, sexist, misogynist bullying and defamation. This kid got off way too lightly.
You must of had a hella' good life if you consider this bad and haven't came to accept that humans act like this or given up on humanity.
Whe you see humans I only see stupid men who want to show women their place, but I guess whatever works for you.
"It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"
 

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ZiggyE said:
Yeah, because when someone refers to a woman as a *****, he's calling her a female dog, or when someone calls someone a bastard, they're saying his parents weren't married when he was born. Not every insult is literal.
What? Of course they are not all literal. But, unlike those words, 'slut' has no other definition besides that of a 'promiscuos woman.'

(Definition of SLUT - Merriam-Webster

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chiefly British : a slovenly woman
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a : a promiscuous woman; especially : prostitute
b : a saucy girl : minx)

Those are the definitions, and they are all meant to insult women for displaying or acting on their sexuality. That's it. That's all.

ZiggyE said:
It was adolescent douchebaggery. Rating the opposite gender based on their looks? It happens all the time, everyday. And it's not just the men who do it. Would you call it a crime if a girl giggled to her girlfriend about how "X is SOOO cute" or "Y looks like he's a creep". Not at all. It's still just as offensive. The only difference is this guy went around and made it public, which is a douchebag thing to do.
There's a difference between saying someone is cute and slut-shaming the hell out of some girls. Do you really think the issue is that he made a list about how pretty they all were? Hell, they'd be flattered! The issue is that he objectified the shit out of those girls. He had a "stock" rating, for crying out loud. He turned them into nothing but products for male entertainment. And then proceeded to shame them for being sexually active, as well as for their race, ethnicity and sexual orientation.

Drawing penises on the bathroom walls, is adolescent douchebaggery. This was a calculated and deliberate attack on those girls. And clearly not the same shit as having a cutesy list in your diary about your top ten hotties, omigosh.
 
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The Cheezy One said:
ZiggyE said:
The Cheezy One said:
ultrachicken said:
I wasn't aware that you could be arrested for saying how attractive you find people.
Read the sources:
MyFoxChicago.com [http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/oak-park-river-forest-high-school-facebook-list-hot-girls-blonde-bombshell-hangover-20110117]

The girls were given derogatory nicknames including "New Queen," "The Designated Drunk," and "The Amazing Bisexual." Many references insult the girls by race, ethnicity and sexual orientation.

Also bear in mind this is a Hot or Not list, so likely he felt the need to call some girls unattractive at the same time.
Insults happen everyday. It shouldn't be an arrestable offense, nor even one that merits expulsion.
You shouldn't be arrested for racism? I'm sorry, but I'm not sure you understand how much this will affect those girls
uh once again like many have said, it happens EVERY DAY, its just he was an organized more vocal asshat about it than the average person. if he seriously is getting in trouble with the law over this, then it really shows how messed up our judicial system is and how bored our tax money really is getting a kid for something like this but then letting drug dealers and REAL criminals roam free and get away with things every day, and if you get that offended by racist remarks about your "race", then you shouldn't be anywhere near humans or the internet.period.

if this one little thing affects them that much, then they are in for a world of hurt when they reach the real world.
 

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The Cheezy One said:
ultrachicken said:
I wasn't aware that you could be arrested for saying how attractive you find people.
Read the sources:
MyFoxChicago.com [http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/oak-park-river-forest-high-school-facebook-list-hot-girls-blonde-bombshell-hangover-20110117]

The girls were given derogatory nicknames including "New Queen," "The Designated Drunk," and "The Amazing Bisexual." Many references insult the girls by race, ethnicity and sexual orientation.

Last time I looked, racism was something you could be arrested for.

Also bear in mind this is a 'Hot' or 'Not' list, so likely he felt the need to call some girls unattractive at the same time.
What? Free speech still applies. If the KKK can go around spewing their bullshit, why can't this kid? I can understand expulsion, as he was infringing on his classmates' right to learn with this, but arresting him? That's a step too far.

And calling people ugly is not worth arresting him over, either. Frankly, the kid's only crime is being a douchebag.
 

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ViaGalactica said:
ZiggyE said:
Yeah, because when someone refers to a woman as a *****, he's calling her a female dog, or when someone calls someone a bastard, they're saying his parents weren't married when he was born. Not every insult is literal.
What? Of course they are not all literal. But, unlike those words, 'slut' has no other definition besides that of a 'promiscuos woman.'

(Definition of SLUT - Merriam-Webster

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chiefly British : a slovenly woman
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a : a promiscuous woman; especially : prostitute
b : a saucy girl : minx)

Those are the definitions, and they are all meant to insult women for displaying or acting on their sexuality. That's it. That's all.
Do you know anything about the English language? It's called slang. Definitions of words like '*****' and 'bastard' have been altered to include their slang meanings as, nowadays, they are used more often in that way.


There's a difference between saying someone is cute and slut-shaming the hell out of some girls. Do you really think the issue is that he made a list about how pretty they all were? Hell, they'd be flattered! The issue is that he objectified the shit out of those girls. He had a "stock" rating, for crying out loud. He turned them into nothing but products for male entertainment. And then proceeded to shame them for being sexually active, as well as for their race, ethnicity and sexual orientation.
All you're doing is reinforcing my point. Yes, the way he went about it wasn't very nice. But if you strip away all that, all he was doing was making a list. If you add all that, then it becomes adolescent douchebaggery. Stealing is a crime, murder is a crime, rape is a crime. Making a list isn't.

And clearly not the same shit as having a cutesy list in your diary about your top ten hotties
It would be if they went around showing people, which a large number do. Honestly, I can't help but feel you're the sexist one here. Jumping on guys when they do this, accusing them of being sexist when, in reality, what he did wasn't THAT bad.

Sexism is when you consider the other gender inferior. Nothing he has done indicates this. Sure, he isn't showing much compassion for these girls but that doesn't make him sexist. I, myself, enjoy the occasional sexist joke? Why? Because I have a sense of humour. Not because I'm a sexist. There's nothing to suggest this boy wasn't just playing a joke and didn't consider the repercussions nor the douchebaggery of his actions. I'm sure if he did he wouldn't have gone around showing it to people.
 

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Seriously, why do so many people say he should not be arrested? I don't know what he would be arrested for, I don't know the American law that well, but he deserves it. Also, it should be an example to other people, so that not everyone who want to quit their school pull stunts like this, knowing that the only consequence is getting expelled.
 

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What an idiot. Sure make your list but don't go spreading it around to everyone. I can just imagine how hurt some of those girls got when they saw this.
 

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Yes, he should certainly go to jail because he hurt some feelings with nasty, pointy words.
 

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I can't wait for the generation growing up on Facebook and Twitter to take over the world. It will make things like Wikileaks completely useless.

"Dude I totally met with the head of the Deutsche (DOUCHE LOL) bank, he totally smelled like fugly farts, but he had like 100 million douche marks so I would totally give him an HJ, J/K."

"Met w/prez of Paki. Sd I lookd like Justin B. Ttly BS. Imma nuke dem. LOL!"

"OMG ttly got Alzraky (sp?) got sum shit. Hez gna bomb LA LOLZ. Liek snakes on teh planes?! amiright?)"
 

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ok, so now just trying to size people up in multiple aspects is bad? Its curiosity, its human, its OUR designed nature.
So, knowingly bullying a kid so far to take their own life is not considered an offence, but pulling a douchebaggy stunt at high school does?? WTF LAW, actually, this link has my reaction to this [not me, just a video that fits it.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vFVwy67U98&feature=channel_video_title

Sorry, super quick edit, HOW THE FUCK IS THIS A SERIOUS CRIME!!??!!??!!?? Hell, hes OBVIOUSLY going to be convicted, be forced into a criminal field because of feeling cheated by our ass hole, butt rape, the guy that tries to save the bus from crashing went over the speed limit so he has to go to jail for 9 years.
Hell, its more or less a grand total of a new criminal to wonder our streets, for fuck sake. Crazy kids that stab, kill or even DISMEMBER people need to be thrown in juvie, while this should be another treatment enteiraly. Even Juvie is depicted as a jail house, complete with wardens, guards and actual deadly prisoners a breed of their own. Juvie from what I can tell doesn't reform people to be better then they once were, but to be worse.
 

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Vern said:
I can't wait for the generation growing up on Facebook and Twitter to take over the world. It will make things like Wikileaks completely useless.

"Dude I totally met with the head of the Deutsche (DOUCHE LOL) bank, he totally smelled like fugly farts, but he had like 100 million douche marks so I would totally give him an HJ, J/K."

"Met w/prez of Paki. Sd I lookd like Justin B. Ttly BS. Imma nuke dem. LOL!"

"OMG ttly got Alzraky (sp?) got sum shit. Hez gna bomb LA LOLZ. Liek snakes on teh planes?! amiright?)"
Oh my, the future is a grim one.
 

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Vern said:
I can't wait for the generation growing up on Facebook and Twitter to take over the world. It will make things like Wikileaks completely useless.

"Dude I totally met with the head of the Deutsche (DOUCHE LOL) bank, he totally smelled like fugly farts, but he had like 100 million douche marks so I would totally give him an HJ, J/K."

"Met w/prez of Paki. Sd I lookd like Justin B. Ttly BS. Imma nuke dem. LOL!"

"OMG ttly got Alzraky (sp?) got sum shit. Hez gna bomb LA LOLZ. Liek snakes on teh planes?! amiright?)"
...And now we know why the police need to be involved.
 

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Wait, so he made a sex list, gets arrested, publicly shamed and embarrassed, and the "victims" want more?

Nobody was hurt in this situation, and people want him to suffer MORE?

*shrugs* I don't know what to do with people anymore. We're a society of cowards and morons.
The Spartan E1337 said:
Tee hee. I love watching stupid people get in trouble. It makes me feel so much better that I am not them. Did this kid really expect this to end in any other way?
*shrugs* I don't know what to do with people anymore. We're a society of cowards and morons.
The Spartan E1337 said:
Tee hee. I love watching stupid people get in trouble. It makes me feel so much better that I am not them. Did this kid really expect this to end in any other way?
Kukulski said:
I don't know how the US law works, but what crime exactly did he commit? I agree that it can be regarded as slander, but this offence is under the jurisdiction of the civil court when a victim sues the offender in my coutry. Arresting him makes no fucking sense to me.
It's a bullshit crime that was invented for the purpose of arresting him. Apparently the children here don't get why it's a problem and think it's such a great thing that a "douche" posting a an explicit list about 50 colleagues he finds attractive should get arrested.

Great thinking, morons.

A woman at Duke Univsity made a list of all of her sexual encounters with about a dozen men, going into explicit detail and ranking them based on sexual appearance, penile size, strength, stamina, and so on. What happened to her? Nothing, but shame. That was a university[/i] student, mind you.

However, a high school kid gets sent to jail more than half way through the year, probably has to retake the entire fucking grade, for making a list on the desirability of women and giving them sophomoric nicknames? Which self righteous imbecile would agree with that?