Teen Arrested for Home-Made "Hot or Not" List on Facebook

[WilliamRLBaker]

His crime is being a stupid teenage boy not realizing he's in a pop-feminized society that considers hurting girls' feelings a criminal offense and any comment on female sexuality as rape.

That sounds like some paranoid BS to me.

You've obviously never been to a mandatory university "You're all dumb cavemen that need to be taught how not to rape women" presentation that accusess male students they're unknowingly perpetuating a "rape culture"

http://thefire.org/article/12301.html

You are aware that university is where a lot of people get raped right? People get raped and 99.9% of the time it's men doing it, so why not talk to them about the issue? Or are you one of those people who thinks women are responsible for their own rape and therefore only preventative "don't get yourself raped you silly bint" techniques should be taught?

If we can give lectures to women telling them to always go out in pairs, watch their drinks and not go out on the street at night, then we can give lectures to men educating them on consent laws and negative attitudes towards women and sexuality. Just because you know how to behave yourself doesn't necessarily mean the guy next to you does. Saying "hey, don't rape girls" may hurt your pride, but if I ran a university I'd rather hurt a couple feelings and hopefully prevent a rape than pretend everyone has their shit together and then find out some woman got assaulted.

I would just like to say I applaud your ability to pull numbers out of your ass. 99% of the time its men? not likely maybe at most 80%.

But Im not surprised by the fake numbers since you actually support that thought reform tripe that will fix nothing just because you think rape is this prevailent thing that happens to all women or possibly could.

 

[RSparowe]

isn't this all a bit much for a stupid high school stunt?

A "stupid high school stunt"? Are you serious? Falling on your ass because you tried to ride a bike down some stairs qualifies as a "stupid high school stunt".

This was a calculated attack on adolescent females in a disgusting manner that showed no regard for their well-being or reputation.This was exploitation of minors, sexist, misogynist bullying and defamation. This kid got off way too lightly.

You must of had a hella' good life if you consider this bad and haven't came to accept that humans act like this or given up on humanity.

Where you see humans I only see stupid men who want to show women their place, but I guess whatever works for you.

Stop oppressing me!

(See what I did there?)

Sigh. You can't oppress the ones that have the power - hth! (But hey, if you consider yourself one of them, help yourself, I guess?)

If you don't stop bullying me, I'll sue.

Also, my country is a Matriarchy so, who's got the power again?

 

[JDKJ]

His crime is being a stupid teenage boy not realizing he's in a pop-feminized society that considers hurting girls' feelings a criminal offense and any comment on female sexuality as rape.

That sounds like some paranoid BS to me.

You've obviously never been to a mandatory university "You're all dumb cavemen that need to be taught how not to rape women" presentation that accusess male students they're unknowingly perpetuating a "rape culture"

http://thefire.org/article/12301.html

You are aware that university is where a lot of people get raped right? People get raped and 99.9% of the time it's men doing it, so why not talk to them about the issue? Or are you one of those people who thinks women are responsible for their own rape and therefore only preventative "don't get yourself raped you silly bint" techniques should be taught?

If we can give lectures to women telling them to always go out in pairs, watch their drinks and not go out on the street at night, then we can give lectures to men educating them on consent laws and negative attitudes towards women and sexuality. Just because you know how to behave yourself doesn't necessarily mean the guy next to you does. Saying "hey, don't rape girls" may hurt your pride, but if I ran a university I'd rather hurt a couple feelings and hopefully prevent a rape than pretend everyone has their shit together and then find out some woman got assaulted.

I would just like to say I applaud your ability to pull numbers out of your ass. 99% of the time its men? not likely maybe at most 80%.

But Im not surprised by the fake numbers since you actually support that thought reform tripe that will fix nothing just because you think rape is this prevailent thing that happens to all women or possibly could.

I don't know from where she pulled it, but it ain't too far off base. It's actually 99% of all rapists in the United States that are male. And given that 1 in 6 American women has experienced an attempted or completed rape, it does appear that the odds of a woman getting raped are way better than of her picking the winning Lotto numbers.

 

[MasterChief892039]

His crime is being a stupid teenage boy not realizing he's in a pop-feminized society that considers hurting girls' feelings a criminal offense and any comment on female sexuality as rape.

That sounds like some paranoid BS to me.

You've obviously never been to a mandatory university "You're all dumb cavemen that need to be taught how not to rape women" presentation that accusess male students they're unknowingly perpetuating a "rape culture"

http://thefire.org/article/12301.html

You are aware that university is where a lot of people get raped right? People get raped and 99.9% of the time it's men doing it, so why not talk to them about the issue? Or are you one of those people who thinks women are responsible for their own rape and therefore only preventative "don't get yourself raped you silly bint" techniques should be taught?

If we can give lectures to women telling them to always go out in pairs, watch their drinks and not go out on the street at night, then we can give lectures to men educating them on consent laws and negative attitudes towards women and sexuality. Just because you know how to behave yourself doesn't necessarily mean the guy next to you does. Saying "hey, don't rape girls" may hurt your pride, but if I ran a university I'd rather hurt a couple feelings and hopefully prevent a rape than pretend everyone has their shit together and then find out some woman got assaulted.

I would just like to say I applaud your ability to pull numbers out of your ass. 99% of the time its men? not likely maybe at most 80%.

But Im not surprised by the fake numbers since you actually support that thought reform tripe that will fix nothing just because you think rape is this prevailent thing that happens to all women or possibly could.

I suppose you putting forth the 80% figure doesn't count as pulling numbers out your ass? At any rate, a quick Google search puts rapists at 98% male (you're free to Google it yourself if you think a few percentage points make a significant difference). Does that mean that all rapists are men? Of course not. But the majority of rapists are male and it is obviously a gendered issue, so it is not illogical to target and attempt to educate the population that is most likely to commit sex-based crimes.

And I never said that rape is something that happens to "all" women. That's ridiculous. But universities are a place of increased risk for such crimes, and there is benefit in both telling people not to rape and telling people to avoid high-risk situations. Besides, whether it's happening to all women or merely a handful is irrelevant - a single rape is too many.

 

[JDKJ]

His crime is being a stupid teenage boy not realizing he's in a pop-feminized society that considers hurting girls' feelings a criminal offense and any comment on female sexuality as rape.

That sounds like some paranoid BS to me.

You've obviously never been to a mandatory university "You're all dumb cavemen that need to be taught how not to rape women" presentation that accusess male students they're unknowingly perpetuating a "rape culture"

http://thefire.org/article/12301.html

You are aware that university is where a lot of people get raped right? People get raped and 99.9% of the time it's men doing it, so why not talk to them about the issue? Or are you one of those people who thinks women are responsible for their own rape and therefore only preventative "don't get yourself raped you silly bint" techniques should be taught?

If we can give lectures to women telling them to always go out in pairs, watch their drinks and not go out on the street at night, then we can give lectures to men educating them on consent laws and negative attitudes towards women and sexuality. Just because you know how to behave yourself doesn't necessarily mean the guy next to you does. Saying "hey, don't rape girls" may hurt your pride, but if I ran a university I'd rather hurt a couple feelings and hopefully prevent a rape than pretend everyone has their shit together and then find out some woman got assaulted.

I would just like to say I applaud your ability to pull numbers out of your ass. 99% of the time its men? not likely maybe at most 80%.

But Im not surprised by the fake numbers since you actually support that thought reform tripe that will fix nothing just because you think rape is this prevailent thing that happens to all women or possibly could.

I suppose you putting forth the 80% figure doesn't count as pulling numbers out your ass? At any rate, a quick Google search puts rapists at 98% male (you're free to Google it yourself if you think a few percentage points make a significant difference). Does that mean that all rapists are men? Of course not. But the majority of rapists are male and it is obviously a gendered issue, so it is not illogical to target and attempt to educate the population that is most likely to commit sex-based crimes.

And I never said that rape is something that happens to "all" women. That's ridiculous. But universities are a place of increased risk for such crimes, and there is benefit in both telling people not to rape and telling people to avoid high-risk situations. Besides, whether it's happening to all women or merely a handful is irrelevant - a single rape is too many.

I just gotta let you know that whenever I hear anyone say stuff like "a single [fill in the blank with any common occurrence] is too many," I begin to pay less attention to their message and more time wondering if they're not some kinda born-again crusader gone off the deep end. Whether true or not, that kind of statement strike me as the rhetorical tool of kooks. Just so you know.

 

[Nurb]

His crime is being a stupid teenage boy not realizing he's in a pop-feminized society that considers hurting girls' feelings a criminal offense and any comment on female sexuality as rape.

That sounds like some paranoid BS to me.

You've obviously never been to a mandatory university "You're all dumb cavemen that need to be taught how not to rape women" presentation that accusess male students they're unknowingly perpetuating a "rape culture"

http://thefire.org/article/12301.html

You are aware that university is where a lot of people get raped right? People get raped and 99.9% of the time it's men doing it, so why not talk to them about the issue? Or are you one of those people who thinks women are responsible for their own rape and therefore only preventative "don't get yourself raped you silly bint" techniques should be taught?

If we can give lectures to women telling them to always go out in pairs, watch their drinks and not go out on the street at night, then we can give lectures to men educating them on consent laws and negative attitudes towards women and sexuality. Just because you know how to behave yourself doesn't necessarily mean the guy next to you does. Saying "hey, don't rape girls" may hurt your pride, but if I ran a university I'd rather hurt a couple feelings and hopefully prevent a rape than pretend everyone has their shit together and then find out some woman got assaulted.

Campus rape is rare, and when it happens it gets publicity. Giving a presentation that suggests college students find rape acceptable and requiring male students attend it makes the assumption all male students are idiots who don't know what rape is and will most likely attempt it.

"Hey, don't rape girls" doesn't hurt my pride. Even suggesting any adult man needs to be told this is insulting and prejudicial because you're saying I don't know what it is and will most likely try it if not told

It's sexism to suspect all men as being potential rapists based on their gender. You don't even see it in what you're saying do you? Let's Replace just a couple words in your statement.

Replaced words are bold:
"Just because you know how to behave yourself doesn't necessarily mean the black guy next to you does. Saying "hey, don't steal" may hurt your pride, but if I ran a city I'd rather hurt a couple feelings and hopefully prevent a robbery than pretend everyone has their shit together and then find out some store got robbed"

See how lumping men in with a small percentage of actual rapists looks now? "ALL men need to be told..." is as big a problem as saying "ALL black men need to be told..."

I'm not changing around sentences or reordering words here, If there was nothing prejudicial about your statement, then it wouldn't come across that way no matter who I replaced "man" with or what crime/negative action I replaced "rape" with.

 

[Talydia]

Being a douche is an arrestable offense now? Good to know. I doubt we'd see an adult get arrested for doing the same thing with people he works with. Sure its still an asinine thing to do but hardly worthy of police intervention. May as well arrest every boy in that school, because they're thinking the same thing. They're just smart enough not to write it down. Quick, call the thinkpol!

 

[JDKJ]

His crime is being a stupid teenage boy not realizing he's in a pop-feminized society that considers hurting girls' feelings a criminal offense and any comment on female sexuality as rape.

That sounds like some paranoid BS to me.

You've obviously never been to a mandatory university "You're all dumb cavemen that need to be taught how not to rape women" presentation that accusess male students they're unknowingly perpetuating a "rape culture"

http://thefire.org/article/12301.html

You are aware that university is where a lot of people get raped right? People get raped and 99.9% of the time it's men doing it, so why not talk to them about the issue? Or are you one of those people who thinks women are responsible for their own rape and therefore only preventative "don't get yourself raped you silly bint" techniques should be taught?

If we can give lectures to women telling them to always go out in pairs, watch their drinks and not go out on the street at night, then we can give lectures to men educating them on consent laws and negative attitudes towards women and sexuality. Just because you know how to behave yourself doesn't necessarily mean the guy next to you does. Saying "hey, don't rape girls" may hurt your pride, but if I ran a university I'd rather hurt a couple feelings and hopefully prevent a rape than pretend everyone has their shit together and then find out some woman got assaulted.

Campus rape is rare, and when it happens it gets publicity. Giving a presentation that suggests college students find rape acceptable and requiring male students attend it makes the assumption all male students are idiots who don't know what rape is and will most likely attempt it.

"Hey, don't rape girls" doesn't hurt my pride. Even suggesting any adult man needs to be told this is insulting and prejudicial because you're saying I don't know what it is and will most likely try it if not told

It's sexism to suspect all men as being potential rapists based on their gender. You don't even see it in what you're saying do you? Let's Replace just a couple words in your statement.

Replaced words are bold:
"Just because you know how to behave yourself doesn't necessarily mean the black guy next to you does. Saying "hey, don't steal" may hurt your pride, but if I ran a city I'd rather hurt a couple feelings and hopefully prevent a robbery than pretend everyone has their shit together and then find out some store got robbed"

See how lumping men in with a small percentage of actual rapists looks now? "ALL men need to be told..." is as big a problem as saying "ALL black men need to be told..."

I'm not changing around sentences or reordering words here, If there was nothing prejudicial about your statement, then it wouldn't come across that way no matter who I replaced "man" with or what crime/negative action I replaced "rape" with.

Campus rape ain't all that rare. It's reportedly 1 in 4 college women (attempted and completed). And that's for a crime that is notoriously under-reported.

 

[Jian-Li]

I don't like that kid but it infringed on his right to freedom of speech by arresting him for it.

 

[Biodeamon]

I don't see the harm.
Gang wars and murder in the streets? pssh, their harmless.
Stupid teenager? Oh shit! we got a real psycho on our hands! shoot to kill!
Society really needs to stop being such sqeamish sissies and get their prioties straight. Apparently sex is more deadly than guns and drugs...

 

[DeathWyrmNexus]

His crime is being a stupid teenage boy not realizing he's in a pop-feminized society that considers hurting girls' feelings a criminal offense and any comment on female sexuality as rape.

That sounds like some paranoid BS to me.

You've obviously never been to a mandatory university "You're all dumb cavemen that need to be taught how not to rape women" presentation that accusess male students of unknowingly perpetuating a "rape culture" without them even realizing it

http://thefire.org/article/12301.html

Now I wonder, if you're gay, do you get a pass? If you get a pass, wouldn't that be sexual discrimination? If you're gay and don't get a pass, isn't that sexual discrimination too? Also, how are the first year students responsible for the current rape culture?

So much of that program hurts my head...

 

[DeathWyrmNexus]

His crime is being a stupid teenage boy not realizing he's in a pop-feminized society that considers hurting girls' feelings a criminal offense and any comment on female sexuality as rape.

That sounds like some paranoid BS to me.

You've obviously never been to a mandatory university "You're all dumb cavemen that need to be taught how not to rape women" presentation that accusess male students of unknowingly perpetuating a "rape culture" without them even realizing it

http://thefire.org/article/12301.html

Now I wonder, if you're gay, do you get a pass? If you get a pass, wouldn't that be sexual discrimination? If you're gay and don't get a pass, isn't that sexual discrimination too? Also, how are the first year students responsible for the current rape culture?

So much of that program hurts my head...

 

[inquisiti0n]

remember that ***** who did the slideshow thing and sent it around to her friends? alot of ppl defended that with the whole "girlpowerrr" bullshit


anyways, this is retarded. he shouldnt even get expelled, it's highschool ffs



and that "all men are potential rapists" shit makes me so pissed just thinking about it.
thank you feminist groups for proving how not sexist you are!

 

[cursedmoon13]

I'm sure this has probably been pointed out already, but everything except reporting on their sexual habits I believe falls under "freedom of speech" as he is stating his own opinion. As for the "sexual habits" bit, that's called libel, which I believe is a civil offense (something you can be sued for) and not a criminal one, and even then only if it isn't true.

 

[Nurb]

His crime is being a stupid teenage boy not realizing he's in a pop-feminized society that considers hurting girls' feelings a criminal offense and any comment on female sexuality as rape.

That sounds like some paranoid BS to me.

You've obviously never been to a mandatory university "You're all dumb cavemen that need to be taught how not to rape women" presentation that accusess male students they're unknowingly perpetuating a "rape culture"

http://thefire.org/article/12301.html

You are aware that university is where a lot of people get raped right? People get raped and 99.9% of the time it's men doing it, so why not talk to them about the issue? Or are you one of those people who thinks women are responsible for their own rape and therefore only preventative "don't get yourself raped you silly bint" techniques should be taught?

If we can give lectures to women telling them to always go out in pairs, watch their drinks and not go out on the street at night, then we can give lectures to men educating them on consent laws and negative attitudes towards women and sexuality. Just because you know how to behave yourself doesn't necessarily mean the guy next to you does. Saying "hey, don't rape girls" may hurt your pride, but if I ran a university I'd rather hurt a couple feelings and hopefully prevent a rape than pretend everyone has their shit together and then find out some woman got assaulted.

Campus rape is rare, and when it happens it gets publicity. Giving a presentation that suggests college students find rape acceptable and requiring male students attend it makes the assumption all male students are idiots who don't know what rape is and will most likely attempt it.

"Hey, don't rape girls" doesn't hurt my pride. Even suggesting any adult man needs to be told this is insulting and prejudicial because you're saying I don't know what it is and will most likely try it if not told

It's sexism to suspect all men as being potential rapists based on their gender. You don't even see it in what you're saying do you? Let's Replace just a couple words in your statement.

Replaced words are bold:
"Just because you know how to behave yourself doesn't necessarily mean the black guy next to you does. Saying "hey, don't steal" may hurt your pride, but if I ran a city I'd rather hurt a couple feelings and hopefully prevent a robbery than pretend everyone has their shit together and then find out some store got robbed"

See how lumping men in with a small percentage of actual rapists looks now? "ALL men need to be told..." is as big a problem as saying "ALL black men need to be told..."

I'm not changing around sentences or reordering words here, If there was nothing prejudicial about your statement, then it wouldn't come across that way no matter who I replaced "man" with or what crime/negative action I replaced "rape" with.

Campus rape ain't all that rare. It's reportedly 1 in 4 college women. And that's for a crime that is notoriously under-reported.

25% of college women are raped? You must have heard wrong because do you have any idea how big a chunk that is?

--In the last count taken in 2007, there were 18,248,128 students in the US that year:
--57% of those were women, making it 10,401,433 female students
--25% of that is 2,600,358
--So that would mean 2,600,358 women were raped just in college alone, and going by what you said, probably more than that
--A smaller percentage of men in college means there would have to be a greater percentage of rapists among them, both single and multiple offenders, to prey upon the greater number of women. That would mean anywhere from 30%-50% of male college students were rapists in 2007.

The FBI reported only 89,000 rape cases NATIONWIDE in 2008...

Do you see how media coverage, constant suspicion, and worry makes people think that rapists and rape is everywhere?

The Duke team getting falsely accused of rape of a black woman (trying not to appear a slut) were condemned immediately by their fellow students, the country, and their professors shows the panicky hysteria involved. Had there not been cell phone video of it proving the sex was consentual, those guys would be sitting in jail, which are nothing but monster factories today, being brutalized by other inmates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_education_in_the_United_States
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-10-06-rape-decline_N.htm

 

[agrajagthetesty]

Oh god, absolutely. I was in that thread too and it began to make me physically nauseous after a while. So much bigotry, blindness, double standards and ignorance. Some time before that there was also a thread about feminism which got pretty ugly.

It's really sad that you've been avoiding these forums because of it, but I can't say I blame you. I guess there's just a lot of entrenched male privilege around these parts.

Just an aside: I'm a woman too. But it's not only women that are aware of the sexism here; I've seen some men getting equally spitting mad about it.

I was in that thread for about twenty pages explaining to people why "hur hur you wouldn't walk into a bear cave covered in meat would you" isn't a very good argument (each and every time it was brought up by someone or other who thought it was a clever and original point) before my brain exploded. It just...exploded.

I'm better now.

Yes, I noticed you there. I was extremely impressed by your commitment to the cause, and, well... your ability not to explode right off the bat. Honestly, when I see threads like that and something like 80% of the posts are ignoring the evidence, making blind assumptions, and sometimes outright victim-blaming, it makes me want to give up on the world. Kudos to you for your strength of mind and keeping on with the fight; it was a frankly inspiring level of effort on your part and a frankly dreadful level of awareness on a lot of other people's.

 

[inquisiti0n]

You are aware that university is where a lot of people get raped right? People get raped and 99.9% of the time it's men doing it, so why not talk to them about the issue? Or are you one of those people who thinks women are responsible for their own rape and therefore only preventative "don't get yourself raped you silly bint" techniques should be taught?

If we can give lectures to women telling them to always go out in pairs, watch their drinks and not go out on the street at night, then we can give lectures to men educating them on consent laws and negative attitudes towards women and sexuality. Just because you know how to behave yourself doesn't necessarily mean the guy next to you does. Saying "hey, don't rape girls" may hurt your pride, but if I ran a university I'd rather hurt a couple feelings and hopefully prevent a rape than pretend everyone has their shit together and then find out some woman got assaulted.

I can't believe how some people can justify the whole "all men are potential rapists."

Sure, vast majority of rapists are male but how does that translate into all men can be rapists? Feminists especially seem to be awful with statistics. I've heard many times how one out of 6 women are sexually assaulated in their lifetime, so therefore, every 1 out of 6 men is a rapist. That shit is so painfully stupid.

Consider this: Blacks commit crimes at a higher rate/proportion than any other race.
So let's start a lecture entitled "Don't be a criminal!" Oh, and we only force black men to attend it. See any problem with that?

And btw, as much as feminists want to deny it, how you look & dress does affect your chances of being a target in the eyes of a rapist. Sorry, but that's something you have to accept. Yes, rape is about power, but there are plethora of practical reasons why your appearance matters. A 300 lbs woman is less likely to be raped than a girl who weighs 1/3 of that. A girl wearing 5 sweaters is less likely to be a target than a girl wearing a halter top (assuming all other things are equal). Somehow simply pointing out such obvious facts are miscontrued by feminists as "rape advocacy." It's mind-numbingly stupid.


There's also this ridiculous notion which permeates those lectures, that if a girl somehow feels threatened, then it's automatically justified. That's bullshit. If I somehow feel threatened by, let's say, a black guy, is that justified?

 

[Logic 0]

I feel like this is some kind of sitcom where things just get stranger and stranger.

 

[Royas]

It's a civil matter, not a criminal, and the police shouldn't have been involved at all. It certainly doesn't qualify as "disorderly conduct" without stretching the statute to the breaking point and beyond. To refer back to your statement, this isn't even close to the outermost fringes of the lines that define criminal behavior.

Difference being: 1. Never said the police should have been there. I agree it was overkill from a legal standpoint (though from a personal standpoint, I say tase him). 2. I didn't call it criminal behavior. I said it is reprehensible behaviors, and there are laws that stipulate it is not permissible. It is, then, against "the law." Illegal.

But never said criminal.

Well, we agree on one point, at least. It was definitely reprehensible behavior. I may not think there's a legal issue, but the kid does need a butt kicking.

 

[cfehunter]

So a kid acts like a complete ass and brings as much attention to himself as possible.
Then said kid gets slapped on the wrist by the cops.

I'm not sure why this is on the escapist or how it's even news. :\