Teen Arrested for Home-Made "Hot or Not" List on Facebook
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The parents, and girls, have every right to be pissed off. I would fully support them in whatever reasonable means of retribution they happen to choose.AnteGravity said:
They do not have the right to involve the police and/or legal system in a situation where no laws were broken.
isn't this all a bit much for a stupid high school stunt?
A "stupid high school stunt"? Are you serious? Falling on your ass because you tried to ride a bike down some stairs qualifies as a "stupid high school stunt".
This was a calculated attack on adolescent females in a disgusting manner that showed no regard for their well-being or reputation.This was exploitation of minors, sexist, misogynist bullying and defamation. This kid got off way too lightly.
A "stupid high school stunt"? Are you serious? Falling on your ass because you tried to ride a bike down some stairs qualifies as a "stupid high school stunt".
This was a calculated attack on adolescent females in a disgusting manner that showed no regard for their well-being or reputation.This was exploitation of minors, sexist, misogynist bullying and defamation. This kid got off way too lightly.
Just have the kid apologize and do some other shit. But please dont arrest him. Thats entirely un called for
The kid was expelled.Great. But the arrest might be going a bit too far. Surely there are worst crimes deserving punishment out there.
First off, that list is at best Defamation. Unless there's more to the story where he followed the girls around screaming about it, there was no harassment.Anarien said:
Second, Defamation is a civil offense, completely unpunishable by jail time and it requires actual, provable damages being done before the suit can be successful. At best, the girls can argue that he may possibly have damaged their careers in the future and be awarded some small amount of damages for that.
Not really my friend.internetzealot1 said:
Congress didn't make a law saying "You cannot say nasty things about your female classmates"
I cannot say anything and everything I want without consequence.
That being said, I still think this is stupid to arrest the kid. And the father mentioned is being over-protective
I'm sorry, exactly what law constitutes this as an offense? Isn't this shit covered by free speech and stuff?
Don't get me wrong, the guy's an asshole, but I see nothing here that would warrant his arrest. Can someone explain to me, in legal terms, what "disorderly" conduct is defined as?
edit: Never mind, I suppose it counts as slander. Fair enough then.
Don't get me wrong, the guy's an asshole, but I see nothing here that would warrant his arrest. Can someone explain to me, in legal terms, what "disorderly" conduct is defined as?
edit: Never mind, I suppose it counts as slander. Fair enough then.
Shouldn't it be illegal to be arrested and charged for this reason. If someone insulted me and spread it across the web, I'd take it as a badge of honor. All it would do is give me a sense of superiority. Maybe because I have surreal self-esteem, and my ego doesn't deflate from some name calling, but instead just becomes more inflated.
Sorry, but this whole affair has me steaming a bit, I find this all too silly.
Sorry, but this whole affair has me steaming a bit, I find this all too silly.
This wasn't a calculated anything. He formed a list of (presumably) desirable girls and rated them all, then proceeded to tell everyone about it. Just about every male kid in high school does the exact same thing. The only difference in this case is that this idiot put it to paper and distributed it.Anarien said:
There was no attack on anything. The only potential for damage is a future prospective employer of one of the girls finding the list and deciding to not hire them because of it. That is it.
Was it a nice thing to do? Fuck no. Should he have been punished for it? Yes, he most certainly should have. Should the legal system have gotten involved at all? Not in the fucking least.
That's a hell of a lot of victim-blaming and slut-shaming. That's like saying if a woman didn't want to be raped, she shouldn't have worn a short skirt. Which is patriarchical nonsense.Eri said:
Every person has a right to do with his or her own body what they wish and also a right to privacy and to not be harassed, sexually or otherwise.
Technically it's libel. Slander applies to falsehoods in the spoken word, while libel applies to text. Both fall under the broader category of "Defamation" though, so that's generally the word to use.funguy2121 said:
That said, Defamation is a civil offense and as such cannot be punished with jail time. Only a fine (usually reparations made to the victim and official retraction).
This man is clearly a communist out to undermine our god-given right to express our opinions. I propose that the cops arrest him for this very serious offense that can affect many people. Further, I am positive that they'll consider additional charges as more evidence from their investigation comes to light.Andy Chalk said:
See, two can play the spineless, retard game.
OT: From the info posted, that list didn't have the girls real names or photos of them, so the way to know who was who would involve knowing the girl's appearance, sexual preferences, and other miscellaneous info (and if you know all that then your probably her boyfriend). Is it still offensive? Yes. Is it bad enough for juvi? Hell no.