Rubbish doesn't even begin to cover how bad that trailer was. It physically hurt to watch. The one liners were delievered with no emotion and the plot looks like a fat man's belly hair. I am now going to have to erase the whole thing from my memory.
Tekken Movie Trailer Isn't Appalling
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The first MK movie was good at the time, and it was a fighting game.
This Trailer looks okay to be honest, the characters look well and the fights could be interesting.
This Trailer looks okay to be honest, the characters look well and the fights could be interesting.
Yeah, out of any game genre, why is it fighting games that always seem to be made into movies? It's not like they're renowned for their storytelling, I can tell you that much.Monkeytacoz said:
Ok now was just bad, the story seems non-apparent (of course the game didn't win any awards on that front) and the acting is just awful. All that said the fight scenes look ok.
It actually reminds me of some of Van Damm's old movies. Kickboxer, bloodsport etc. That's ok I guess.
Well, I'm one of those who has said that there have been good video game movies already. A good number of them actually. While one can look at "Street Fighter" or "Dead Or Alive" a better place to look is say at the FIRST "Mortal Kombat" movie which did well enough to actually get a (terrible) sequel, and actually spawned a pretty successful soundtrack as well. Tomb Raider also managed to do well enough to get a sequel, and there are others. I think people tend to mostly focus on the horrible failures rather than the successes (which is why they continue to be made), plus it's become hip for gamers to hate on video game movies irregardless of whether they deserve it or not.
That said, I think this movie can at best hope to be average. The reason being that most fighting games have a general concept followed by a total lack of resolution where pretty much the "hero" depends on whom you play, and reality/resolution is dictated by that same choice when you win. In some universes like Tekkn an "official" victor is decided after the game (usually one of the corperate Japanese guys fighting over the company) and to set the continueing story for the sequel. This relegates a lot of the mythology generated by other backrounds and endings to filler and creates as many questions as they answer.
It should be noted that Tekken has a relatively decent storyline as far as such things go. The basic concept being rooted in 1980s/1990s fiction before the "evil corperation" had become quite as much of a stock villain, and we hadn't seen dark corperate apocolypse futures around every corner. The basic premise being similar to "Enter The Dragon" with a corperation more powerful than most nations with it's own military forces and such (ala Shadowrun or Cyberpunk 2020) holds an "Enter The Dragon" type tournament to lure in great fighters for potential recruitment into their military forces. This premise of course being weak because since every character in the game is potential a hero (or anti-hero) all of them are portrayed as having "exceptional" motives similar to a martial arts movie hero, and are usually not there for the reasons the tournament is supposed to be about (a ton of money, and potentially a high profile security/private military job, OR according to some definitions the right to request a boon of the CEO if you defeat him... one character entered the tournament to get him to build an Amusement park). The lynchpin for many character stories though is that the rules of the tournament make the "champion" the current CEO, which means if you get to the final round it's a way to face him in combat and "accidently" kill him. When otherwise he could be anywhere in the world, and virtually unlocatable, or in a bunker surrounded by an army of doomsoldiers. This being used (plotwise) as a lure especially in Tekken 6 for the CEO to also draw out their enemies and also see them disposed of (either in person, or by other competitors... perhaps hiring assasins and such to fight in the tournament for that purpose).
As a Dark Future fan, I can sort of "see" Tekken as a concept. But you'll notice they also told a lot of the story through Beat 'Em Up modes and such at the same time.
Generally speaking to really do a "Tekken" movie I'd think the Tournament set up they have in that preview will actually work against it, since to tell a decent story based on the series the Tournament is actually just one element of it, and should feature in the movie, but if they try and base the movie around it at best it's going to come down to the choreography and probably be ranked as "average" compared to similar movies like "Enter The Dragon" or "Blood Sport" which featured luminaries like Bruce Lee or Van Damme (who was a real world class martial arts champion).
Nothing in that movie really struck me as being definingly "Tekken" other than having fighters that looked sort of like the characters. What's more without getting into the actual world and the "Dark Future" techn-thriller type backdrop, suddenly sticking things like Ninja Robots out there are purely WTF worthy. You'd expect something like that in say a Cyberpunk 2020 game, and it makes sense that one might be involved in corperate plots like this, but really that movie does nothing to really establish the setting from what I saw. You don't have all of the corperate stormtroopers running around, and the points about how quite obviously the goverments of the world rank about as well agains the resources of Heihachi as they do against say Genom (Bubblegum Crisis), or Renraku (Shadowrun).
Of course to some extent I'd also say that ironically I think that like many Dark Future stories Tekken is simply too deep to do as a movie.
Still, I'd imagine it will be a tolerable kung-fu flick. A lot of tmes I get into the mood for deritive stuff like that, and I think this is going to wind up on athe quick fix list of action movie fans. Right up there with say "The Quest" by Van Damme, not great, but one of those perfectly stereotypical movies that gives you what it should in exactly the right (predictable) doses and sates the need to see people jump around and kick each other in the face.
That said, I think this movie can at best hope to be average. The reason being that most fighting games have a general concept followed by a total lack of resolution where pretty much the "hero" depends on whom you play, and reality/resolution is dictated by that same choice when you win. In some universes like Tekkn an "official" victor is decided after the game (usually one of the corperate Japanese guys fighting over the company) and to set the continueing story for the sequel. This relegates a lot of the mythology generated by other backrounds and endings to filler and creates as many questions as they answer.
It should be noted that Tekken has a relatively decent storyline as far as such things go. The basic concept being rooted in 1980s/1990s fiction before the "evil corperation" had become quite as much of a stock villain, and we hadn't seen dark corperate apocolypse futures around every corner. The basic premise being similar to "Enter The Dragon" with a corperation more powerful than most nations with it's own military forces and such (ala Shadowrun or Cyberpunk 2020) holds an "Enter The Dragon" type tournament to lure in great fighters for potential recruitment into their military forces. This premise of course being weak because since every character in the game is potential a hero (or anti-hero) all of them are portrayed as having "exceptional" motives similar to a martial arts movie hero, and are usually not there for the reasons the tournament is supposed to be about (a ton of money, and potentially a high profile security/private military job, OR according to some definitions the right to request a boon of the CEO if you defeat him... one character entered the tournament to get him to build an Amusement park). The lynchpin for many character stories though is that the rules of the tournament make the "champion" the current CEO, which means if you get to the final round it's a way to face him in combat and "accidently" kill him. When otherwise he could be anywhere in the world, and virtually unlocatable, or in a bunker surrounded by an army of doomsoldiers. This being used (plotwise) as a lure especially in Tekken 6 for the CEO to also draw out their enemies and also see them disposed of (either in person, or by other competitors... perhaps hiring assasins and such to fight in the tournament for that purpose).
As a Dark Future fan, I can sort of "see" Tekken as a concept. But you'll notice they also told a lot of the story through Beat 'Em Up modes and such at the same time.
Generally speaking to really do a "Tekken" movie I'd think the Tournament set up they have in that preview will actually work against it, since to tell a decent story based on the series the Tournament is actually just one element of it, and should feature in the movie, but if they try and base the movie around it at best it's going to come down to the choreography and probably be ranked as "average" compared to similar movies like "Enter The Dragon" or "Blood Sport" which featured luminaries like Bruce Lee or Van Damme (who was a real world class martial arts champion).
Nothing in that movie really struck me as being definingly "Tekken" other than having fighters that looked sort of like the characters. What's more without getting into the actual world and the "Dark Future" techn-thriller type backdrop, suddenly sticking things like Ninja Robots out there are purely WTF worthy. You'd expect something like that in say a Cyberpunk 2020 game, and it makes sense that one might be involved in corperate plots like this, but really that movie does nothing to really establish the setting from what I saw. You don't have all of the corperate stormtroopers running around, and the points about how quite obviously the goverments of the world rank about as well agains the resources of Heihachi as they do against say Genom (Bubblegum Crisis), or Renraku (Shadowrun).
Of course to some extent I'd also say that ironically I think that like many Dark Future stories Tekken is simply too deep to do as a movie.
Still, I'd imagine it will be a tolerable kung-fu flick. A lot of tmes I get into the mood for deritive stuff like that, and I think this is going to wind up on athe quick fix list of action movie fans. Right up there with say "The Quest" by Van Damme, not great, but one of those perfectly stereotypical movies that gives you what it should in exactly the right (predictable) doses and sates the need to see people jump around and kick each other in the face.
Im gon awatch it for the fact im a fan.. film looks sucky though
Also, Bryan looks crap & where the hell is King?!
Also, Bryan looks crap & where the hell is King?!
well...um...yeah it looks like crap. it gonna bomb the same way street fighter and dragon ball did. the only way it would have been good is if one it wasn't some giant underground cage fight instead they would be moving around to different locations to fight, no big crowd surrounding them. And maybe if there body started emiting electricity when they were fighting and they were flying around crouching tiger hidden dragon style.
They figured out how to make good movies out of comic books, why can't they do the same for vidya gaems?
If I were to give one advice to movie makers: If you gotta make a movie out of a game, CHOOSE A GAME THAT WOULD MAKE FOR A GOOD MOVIE. Nothing good has ever come from a fighting game live action movie (Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Dead or Alive), and I strongly doubt this one will be any different. It's not about how much story a game has, it's about how well it translates to the big screen. A game that's entirely made out of two dudes beating eachother up doesn't make for a very interesting movie.
If I were to give one advice to movie makers: If you gotta make a movie out of a game, CHOOSE A GAME THAT WOULD MAKE FOR A GOOD MOVIE. Nothing good has ever come from a fighting game live action movie (Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Dead or Alive), and I strongly doubt this one will be any different. It's not about how much story a game has, it's about how well it translates to the big screen. A game that's entirely made out of two dudes beating eachother up doesn't make for a very interesting movie.
Games ,films its all the same a story a set of characters, bad mechanics to relie on and BAM! its media!
AS much as I hate modern media this looks half decent 0-o
I hope its half as good as MK was!
AS much as I hate modern media this looks half decent 0-o
I hope its half as good as MK was!
Oh, and honestly this isn't the first attempt at this kind of thing. I've actually seen the Tekken Anime/OAV. This actually seems lightyears better.
Though admittedly I doubt it will have anything that will stick in my mind quite as much as Julia throwing a Tomahawk at Heihachi, having him catch it in his teeth (by the blade) and bite it to pieces. One of those things that is so stupid that it becomes legendary among those who see it. So absolutly flaming pathetic it drops so far off the scale that it pops up on the other side and becomes awesome by default.
Also one of the things that gives me cred as the king of all nerds is that with the people I hang out with I have actually (jokingly) told people I've played PnP RPGs with that I wanted my martial arts character to do that (or something similar) and people I knew actually knew exactly what I was talking about and laughed. It truely becomes nerdly though when you realize people have then let my character do it, and we've had a good laugh otherwise. Most notably when some Dwarf threw a battle axe at my 20th level monk in a epic level D&D game.
Though admittedly I doubt it will have anything that will stick in my mind quite as much as Julia throwing a Tomahawk at Heihachi, having him catch it in his teeth (by the blade) and bite it to pieces. One of those things that is so stupid that it becomes legendary among those who see it. So absolutly flaming pathetic it drops so far off the scale that it pops up on the other side and becomes awesome by default.
Also one of the things that gives me cred as the king of all nerds is that with the people I hang out with I have actually (jokingly) told people I've played PnP RPGs with that I wanted my martial arts character to do that (or something similar) and people I knew actually knew exactly what I was talking about and laughed. It truely becomes nerdly though when you realize people have then let my character do it, and we've had a good laugh otherwise. Most notably when some Dwarf threw a battle axe at my 20th level monk in a epic level D&D game.