Don't forget Tetris: Search for the Straight Block, where you have to track the elusive bastard down, before the world is filled and all hope is lost!Silentpony said:
Telltale Reveals New Trailer, Details for Minecraft: Story Mode
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This confuses me greatly. Why did someone decide this should be a thing? Touting it as Minecraft: Story Mode kinda goes against the essence of Minecraft, which (at least in my eyes) should never have any kind of official canon. It is THE quintessential sandbox which thrives on letting players decide for themselves what the 'canon' is for them. Does it take place in the past, present or future? On another planet, on earth or some fantasy world? Those are all choices that the player can make to immerse themselves in whatever world they want. It's Minecraft's biggest strength and the reason it has remained king since it came along.
This is probably the only time I wish I could buy just a single episode on the pc. I want to give it a shot because its weird enough to possibly work, but I really don't want to spend 25 bucks on what could be a dud. If I could just buy the first episode I'd be all over it. As it stands I'm definitely in the wait and see bracket.Elfgore said:
This... doesn't look great. Also, telltale seem to be spreading themselves extremely thin right now, should we be expecting episodes twice a year from now on? I wish they'd just concentrate on one thing at a time, get an episode out once a month and then move on to a new project. The engine was looking particularly buggy in the last tales from the borderlands which is impressive if you consider how fucking devoid of gameplay it is.
sigh... this looks like the beginning of a fall from grace.
sigh... this looks like the beginning of a fall from grace.
While it seems to me that the route the "story" here is going for (seemingly being about people playing Minecraft, and not a story set in the world of Minecraft) is the best option they can go with for this, I still, like many of you here, don't have high hopes for this.
And there's a loss in charm when the main character isn't playing as the standard Steve model.
And there's a loss in charm when the main character isn't playing as the standard Steve model.
What are you talking about? The Borderlands ones have been the absolute best they've done since Walking Dead season 1.Redryhno said:
What person gave you the impression that they've gone down in quality since episode 1 cause they're totally wrong.
Well, there's at least two of the three Co-Optional people, one of my roommates, half a dozen streams I've wandered around in....I'd say I've got a pretty decent metric to say that. And I never really cared for TWD besides the ending actually being different than normal, so saying that it's as good as that really doesn't sell it for me.shintakie10 said:
I'm not sure if it was teased, but the sales numbers are strong enough that one would think that a second season would happen (it's not as though the source material is lacking), and even if it was no longer active that would still mean 3 active series on top of this one.WolvDragon said:
I'm feeling very torn on this one... On one hand, it's tell-tale and they haven't failed to please me with any of their games yet and alot of the criticism being thrown at the game I feel is just troll's calling the game "retarded looking" or some other childish quip. However, I do feel that the fanbase that isn't liking the look of this does have a point,for me I think the thing killing it for me is the animation, I understand it's a custom engine, but wow, compare it to the animations of "amateur" youtubers, the difference is ridiculous. I'll wait for the game to come out and hear reviews and general consensus, but I am highly skeptical of this particular tell-tale game.
Ahhh, another interactive story where your choices don't matter and is built using a aged and buggy game engine. Kudos Telltale, kudos.
I... I don't know how to feel about this.
The problem is that on all surfaces this game looks and sounds stupid. Minecraft Story Mode is the sort of thing that you would normally hear EA or some app developer announce in a desperate cash grab. Minecraft has never really ever had a story, to the point where the only documented lore at all in game is the ending screen which was added in just before it was realised I believe. It was basically just a screen that said "Congrats, you win! You killed a dragon!"
But it's Telltale making this, and by god do they make good games. I do hate the sort of episodic nature of all of these narrative games that are coming out now but I'm glad they're making a resurgence (Dreamfall, Life is Strange, ALL TELLTALE EVER), so now we just have to wait until Telltale make another Sam and Max because those games are the shit.
The biggest thing that kills this game for me is that fact that Minecraft simply doesn't lend itself well to making a story game. It's almost always the same with stories set in Minecraft - it could be set in generic fantasy world #21, but because it is in Minecraft it's just going to have the same art style as Minecraft, the same mobs and make constant references to Minecraft things. So instead of the generic fantasy character cutting down a tree to block the road and setting a bomb behind it, the Minecraft character will cut down a tree and point out the lack of gravity before putting a TNT block down and sprinkling redstone up to it. There's no actual difference besides the fact that every story you'll ever see goes out of it's way to make references to Minecraft because there's nothing else to actually connect the story to Minecraft!
Also, something that seems to be happening is that the characters are not actually characters but people playing Minecraft. I'm also on the fence about this because it could be done well but also is most likely to fail and burn. I can see it being amusing and interesting if it turns out that this whole story is them just RPing it out, or if you have to actually log out and do something in real life to deal with the issue. That'd be some cool shit.
But they could also just go down the route of saying they are playing and then fucking it up completely by having it never come up apart from when they just want to break the fourth wall and be all funny and meta. It also means the story has way less importance when you are just playing Minecraft, though they would inevitably just make it so you can't respawn due to hardcore mode or some crap, which then begs the question of why have it not just be the characters in the first place?
Argh. I'm torn.
The problem is that on all surfaces this game looks and sounds stupid. Minecraft Story Mode is the sort of thing that you would normally hear EA or some app developer announce in a desperate cash grab. Minecraft has never really ever had a story, to the point where the only documented lore at all in game is the ending screen which was added in just before it was realised I believe. It was basically just a screen that said "Congrats, you win! You killed a dragon!"
But it's Telltale making this, and by god do they make good games. I do hate the sort of episodic nature of all of these narrative games that are coming out now but I'm glad they're making a resurgence (Dreamfall, Life is Strange, ALL TELLTALE EVER), so now we just have to wait until Telltale make another Sam and Max because those games are the shit.
The biggest thing that kills this game for me is that fact that Minecraft simply doesn't lend itself well to making a story game. It's almost always the same with stories set in Minecraft - it could be set in generic fantasy world #21, but because it is in Minecraft it's just going to have the same art style as Minecraft, the same mobs and make constant references to Minecraft things. So instead of the generic fantasy character cutting down a tree to block the road and setting a bomb behind it, the Minecraft character will cut down a tree and point out the lack of gravity before putting a TNT block down and sprinkling redstone up to it. There's no actual difference besides the fact that every story you'll ever see goes out of it's way to make references to Minecraft because there's nothing else to actually connect the story to Minecraft!
Also, something that seems to be happening is that the characters are not actually characters but people playing Minecraft. I'm also on the fence about this because it could be done well but also is most likely to fail and burn. I can see it being amusing and interesting if it turns out that this whole story is them just RPing it out, or if you have to actually log out and do something in real life to deal with the issue. That'd be some cool shit.
But they could also just go down the route of saying they are playing and then fucking it up completely by having it never come up apart from when they just want to break the fourth wall and be all funny and meta. It also means the story has way less importance when you are just playing Minecraft, though they would inevitably just make it so you can't respawn due to hardcore mode or some crap, which then begs the question of why have it not just be the characters in the first place?
Argh. I'm torn.
Honestly, you can't just throw more people at a problem and arbitrarily speed up production. Depending on what's being worked on, production bottlenecks, organusational problems, and more complex team dynamics can cause a larger team to sumply undermine a project, rather than improve, or speed it up.Zontar said:
Rhias is doubly true if yoi pile on a bunch of extra people partway through a project.
Telltale is a stuidio of less then 250 people, divide that by the current number of games they are working on (if we exclude MSM from the equation and assuming that there is not a Poker Night 3 or any other secret side project in development) that still leaves less people working on each game then any they have made previously. Making this at all would have required taking a significant number of people from each project.CrystalShadow said:
I'm guessing you are basing that on the state after ep 2 which was a bit of a drop in quality. The recent ep 3 is kicking though, and it's getting praise from both game press and players alike (myself included).Redryhno said:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/tales-from-the-borderlands-episode-three---catch-a-ride
I guess it's part of the course with episodic content, even good TV series have boring episodes sometimes.
OT: When TT first announced the Minecraft world game, I was totally unconvinced and wondered how it's even supposed to work.
Now I know - like this. Still torn. I never played Minecraft in my life, so I know nothing about the lore (if there is any, that is), but then again I had the same thing with Borderlands, and so far I'm having a blast with "Tales...". I'll wait for the reviews I guess, it will all depend on the quality of writing.
Well, then, congratulations, if you know NOTHING about the Minecraft lore, then you also know EVERYTHING about it.Yossarian1507 said:
And you also figured out why - there isn't any. There COULD be one if anyone would ever bother to add some, but nope, nothing. And this game? Also obviously not going to add anything and being basically just a representation of people playing Minecraft...Yossarian1507 said:
I don't understand why they simply don't just release proper animations.
Let's be honest here, the "game" part of their "games" is the worst part of the entire package by a long shot. I still remember my eyes almost rolling out of my head at their GoT ep1 "swipe to clean sword" garbage. That's interactivity? Really?
I'm not saying the stuff they make is terrible, but I do think that they don't even touch 1/100th of the potential of what the video game format can do.
Let's be honest here, the "game" part of their "games" is the worst part of the entire package by a long shot. I still remember my eyes almost rolling out of my head at their GoT ep1 "swipe to clean sword" garbage. That's interactivity? Really?
I'm not saying the stuff they make is terrible, but I do think that they don't even touch 1/100th of the potential of what the video game format can do.
Bindal said:
I beleive I remember that when this was originally announced, Mojang and TTG went out fo their way to make it clear that this was in no way an attempt to create an official Minecraft lore, that in the base game it will still be entirely down to you to decide what the origins/motivations/etc of the villagers/endermen/pigmen/etc are.Bindal said:
So yes, as far as canon is concerned, this is just a professionally produced, interactive, fanimation.