Telltale Reveals New Trailer, Details for Minecraft: Story Mode

[Maze1125]

Honestly, you can't just throw more people at a problem and arbitrarily speed up production. Depending on what's being worked on, production bottlenecks, organusational problems, and more complex team dynamics can cause a larger team to sumply undermine a project, rather than improve, or speed it up.
Rhias is doubly true if yoi pile on a bunch of extra people partway through a project.

Telltale is a stuidio of less then 250 people, divide that by the current number of games they are working on (if we exclude MSM from the equation and assuming that there is not a Poker Night 3 or any other secret side project in development) that still leaves less people working on each game then any they have made previously. Making this at all would have required taking a significant number of people from each project.

Your attitude is really selfish.
Stop begrudging other people the things they want to play just because it might take longer for you to get your thing.

 

[Zontar]

Your attitude is really selfish.
Stop begrudging other people the things they want to play just because it might take longer for you to get your thing.

That might is pretty much a has at this point, given how there's virtually no chance the company hasn't pushed back the release of its other, already active games due to the fact that they wouldn't want to oversaturate the market. The odds that their releases for games people actually want has not been delayed is slim at best.

 

[josemlopes]

I don't understand why they simply don't just release proper animations.

Let's be honest here, the "game" part of their "games" is the worst part of the entire package by a long shot. I still remember my eyes almost rolling out of my head at their GoT ep1 "swipe to clean sword" garbage. That's interactivity? Really?

I'm not saying the stuff they make is terrible, but I do think that they don't even touch 1/100th of the potential of what the video game format can do.

I kind of agree, I really liked TWAU but It would have been a lot better as a movie, if Telltale had the issues of being a game fixed (the very stale animations+facial animations, the stop, talk, stop, talk rythm that most dialogs have, the puzzles that are there to simply justify it being a game, etc...) then I wouldnt mind but seeing the most dramatic moments get somewhat weaker by the poor animations and the "wait for selection" pacing.

 

[laggyteabag]

Eh. The animations kinda put me off. I have never really been all that into Minecraft machinimas in which the characters move in ways that they couldn't in the game, and this is no different. I get that it is a "damned if you do, damned if you dont" kind of situation, but it is still ugly as butts.

Also, why no Steve? Missed opportunity, I'd say.

 

[Maze1125]

The odds that their releases for games I actually want has not been delayed is slim at best.

That's what you're really saying.
You have no idea what people want, you only know what you want and because you don't want this you're angry that it's being made even though there are clearly people who want it.

Again, you're being really selfish.

 

[Zontar]

That's what you're really saying.
You have no idea what people want, you only know what you want and because you don't want this you're angry that it's being made even though there are clearly people who want it.

Again, you're being really selfish.

The reaction to the game speaks for itself. No one asked for this before it was announced, while the 4 games I mentioned had a very vocal fanbase asking for more.

You and others may want it, but a good half of Telltale fans don't.

 

[Maze1125]

That's what you're really saying.
You have no idea what people want, you only know what you want and because you don't want this you're angry that it's being made even though there are clearly people who want it.

Again, you're being really selfish.

The reaction to the game speaks for itself. No one asked for this before it was announced, while the 4 games I mentioned had a very vocal fanbase asking for more.

You and others may want it, but a good half of Telltale fans don't.

And so, again, people do want this.

 

[Zontar]

And so, again, people do want this.

And they're probably outnumbered by those who want what they where already working on and has been delayed because of this game existing.

Even though there is some overlap between the type of people who play Telltale games and those who play Minecraft, it would be a lie to say that group was more then marginal.

 

[Dalisclock]

I'm waiting until it comes out and I hear reviews on it. I really don't know what to expect, considering minecraft is a pure sandbox game with no story. Then again, I wasn't expecting much from TftBl and apparently it's quite good. And apparently the GoT series isn't bad either.

 

[shintakie10]

And so, again, people do want this.

And they're probably outnumbered by those who want what they where already working on and has been delayed because of this game existing.

Even though there is some overlap between the type of people who play Telltale games and those who play Minecraft, it would be a lie to say that group was more then marginal.

No one knew they wanted Hearthstone until it came out. Now its fuckin gigantic.

Hell, no one knew they wanted TWD season 1. Then it came out and it was the shit.

 

[Zontar]

No one knew they wanted Hearthstone until it came out. Now its fuckin gigantic.

Hell, no one knew they wanted TWD season 1. Then it came out and it was the shit.

2 problems with your statement.

1st is that Hearthstone was an attempt to capitalize on an already existing market which came to light with Magic the Gathering, so it being a success was a surprise to no one.

Second is that everyone and their dog who was a Walking Dead fan wanted a video game that had a focus on narrative, so THAT succeeding was even less of a surprise then Hearthstone.

Saying no one knew they wanted either game is like saying no one knew a World of Warcraft expansion would sell millions of copies: it's true of some people, but for most people it was pretty obvious.

 

[Maze1125]

And so, again, people do want this.

And they're probably outnumbered by those who want what they where already working on and has been delayed because of this game existing.

Even though there is some overlap between the type of people who play Telltale games and those who play Minecraft, it would be a lie to say that group was more then marginal.

Those are two statements that you have absolutely no justification behind, other than your presumptions.

The fans of Telltale's games number in the hundred-thousands if they're lucky. The fans of Minecraft number in the millions. If only 10% of all Minecraft players want this game then they already outweigh the entire fanbases of Telltale's other games.

 

[Zontar]

Those are two statements that you have absolutely no justification behind, other than your presumptions.

The fans of Telltale's games number in the hundred-thousands if they're lucky. The fans of Minecraft number in the millions. If only 10% of all Minecraft players want this game then they already outweigh the entire fanbases of Telltale's other games.

Those fans must have bought a LOT of copies of the game then given how they each sold in the high 7 or low 8 digit figures. You'd need closer to 40% of Minecraft's fanbase to buy the game for it to even reach parity, and given who the game's fanbase is, 10% overlap is unrealistic high, which isn't a surprise given how one is a game which is all gameplay, no story and the other is a game which is next to no gameplay, almost entirely story.

I'm not saying there isn't overlap, but I am simply stating a fact when I say that those who are in that overlap are, in all likelihood, fewer then the fans who have been waiting for a new season of their already existing series. Hell, I'd be surprised if they reached parity with them if you added Telltale fans who will buy anything they sell on top of that.

 

[Maze1125]

Those fans must have bought a LOT of copies of the game then given how they each sold in the high 7 or low 8 digit figures.

Source?

You'd need closer to 40% of Minecraft's fanbase to buy the game for it to even reach parity, and given who the game's fanbase is, 10% overlap is unrealistic high, which isn't a surprise given how one is a game which is all gameplay, no story and the other is a game which is next to no gameplay, almost entirely story.

I'm not saying there isn't overlap, but I am simply stating a fact when I say that those who are in that overlap are, in all likelihood, fewer then the fans who have been waiting for a new season of their already existing series. Hell, I'd be surprised if they reached parity with them if you added Telltale fans who will buy anything they sell on top of that.

Again, you're just stating things that you believe, not things that are true.

 

[Zontar]

Those fans must have bought a LOT of copies of the game then given how they each sold in the high 7 or low 8 digit figures.

Source?

Well for one example the first season of Walking Dead sold millions back in 2013. http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2013/01/07/telltale-reveals-impressive-sales-for-the-walking-dead/

Again, you're just stating things that you believe, not things that are true.

Comparing the sales numbers of Minecraft vs the sales numbers of Telltale games coupled with cross-referencing their communities (a prominently below 14 year old one vs a predominantly adult one) makes me come to this conclusion.

 

[Maze1125]

Those fans must have bought a LOT of copies of the game then given how they each sold in the high 7 or low 8 digit figures.

Source?

Well for one example the first season of Walking Dead sold millions back in 2013. http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2013/01/07/telltale-reveals-impressive-sales-for-the-walking-dead/

Well my 10% point still stands. Minecraft has sold over 70 million. They only need around 10% to match their existing fan base.

Again, you're just stating things that you believe, not things that are true.

Comparing the sales numbers of Minecraft vs the sales numbers of Telltale games coupled with cross-referencing their communities (a prominently below 14 year old one vs a predominantly adult one) makes me come to this conclusion.

That's not cross-referencing. That's just you stating stuff, again.
What percentage of Minecraft's players are 14 year olds? What percentage of Telltale's players are 14 year olds?
What percentage of Minecraft's players are adults? What percentage of Telltale's players are adults?

Those are things you need to know before you can even make an attempt at a reasonable statistical analysis.

 

[mysecondlife]

It reminds me of how I first felt about "The Lego Movie", upon hearing it. Considering everything about it is awesome, I'll keep an eye on it.

 

[Zontar]

What percentage of Minecraft's players are 14 year olds? What percentage of Telltale's players are 14 year olds?
What percentage of Minecraft's players are adults? What percentage of Telltale's players are adults?

Those are things you need to know before you can even make an attempt at a reasonable statistical analysis.

And the answer to both is this: the vast majority (85%+) of Minecraft players are minors, while the vast majority of Telltale players are adults. One need only go onto forums, YouTube, Twitch or (in Minecraft's case) servers to see this become apparent.

For the game to be on the same level of success as their previous titles would requrie virtually all adult Minecraft players to buy a copy, and knowing a good dozen adult minecraft players IRL I can tell you at most one or two of them will even consider it.

I know that's anecdotal evidence but here's a fact that isn't anecdotal: Minecraft sold more on console then it did on PC, and Telltale games sell much, much more on PC then they do console due to their very nature.

With everything the game has against it, from the ever smaller pool of people each factor reduces the audience for the game to, coupled with the fact that a large number of fans are angry the game's resources aren't being used for ones people have actually been asking for, it's no wonder the graphics look terrible, they probably are doing it on a lower budget then any of their previous games save for Poker Night.

 

[Maze1125]

And the answer to both is this: the vast majority (85%+) of Minecraft players are minors, while the vast majority of Telltale players are adults.

Source?
(No, "just look at the forums" is not a source nor a valid line of reasoning.)

Minecraft sold more on console then it did on PC, and Telltale games sell much, much more on PC then they do console due to their very nature.

Minecraft has sold more on PC than any Telltale game.

a large number of fans are angry the game's resources aren't being used for ones people have actually been asking for,

Source?
(No, "me and 10 guys I know are angry, therefore a lot are" is not a source nor a valid line of reasoning.)