It would be more accurate to say that his badly outnumbered, oddly poorly equipped (the first Panzers to see action generally weren't fantastic against what the allies had, most tank fights were won because German tank crews were like some kind of tank ninjas) neglectfully supplied (they used horses for logistics throughout the whole war. Look it up) and moronically led (fucking Goering) soldiers nearly took over all of Europe.TheYellowCellPhone said:I have to say Hitler, since I cannot be assed to think of anyone else. The dude nearly took over all of Europe. Europe.
Why? he was a big fake.TheDarkEricDraven said:In Real Life? Billy the Kid.
Gotta agree with you there.. He was first poisoned which really didnt work, so they shot him and left him. He survived the gunshots too, gets a few exstra bullets and thrown into the river. Later autopsy shows that he didnt drown but froze to death.Celtic_Kerr said:Rasputin actually.
He was a "Holy man" that slept with just about anyone he could for favors, power, and pleasure.He didn't uphold his holy preachings at all. He helped those who could repay him, and never did anything for someone other than him. He manipulated the system to the point where the Russian leader could barely touch him.
But he was a man of charisma, and if he had actually attempted to do great things for the country, I get the idea that he just might have. And that *****. Just. Plain. Refused. To Die!
before he was known for being peaceful (which didn't change too much) he actually was a hot-headed thug. he started riots, killed british military grunts that tried to stop the riots, went to jail more than once for violence and murder, and anti-british protesting. while he was being peaceful he (sometimes unintentionally) condoned riots and violence, he hypocritically killed his own wife, by denying her a surgery that would have saved her life (blood transfusion, some "against our religion" thing.) which, a few years later, he himself had done to save his own life. i don't remember exactly, but if i do, he was part of a gang, that beat, killed, burgled, raped, and stole from, any british supporter's, but what i do know, he was very violent and had a history of violence long before he was known as a peaceful hunger striking man in his 30's. his teens and 20's were bloody and brutal, and thats not just british propoganda from back then too.Saelune said:I must ask...elaborate on what terrible things Gandhi did?Kevonovitch said:hitler, stalin, gandhi, sun tzu, vlad the impailer, julias ceaser.
The killers poisoned cakes I believe, and the amount of poison in the cakes was supposed to kill him with a single cake, but he ate an entire batch.Severin90 said:Gotta agree with you there.. He was first poisoned which really didnt work, so they shot him and left him. He survived the gunshots too, gets a few exstra bullets and thrown into the river. Later autopsy shows that he didnt drown but froze to death.Celtic_Kerr said:Rasputin actually.
He was a "Holy man" that slept with just about anyone he could for favors, power, and pleasure.He didn't uphold his holy preachings at all. He helped those who could repay him, and never did anything for someone other than him. He manipulated the system to the point where the Russian leader could barely touch him.
But he was a man of charisma, and if he had actually attempted to do great things for the country, I get the idea that he just might have. And that *****. Just. Plain. Refused. To Die!
Gotta give him the credits of being persistent.
to quote Alan Davies From QI: "All that Happened, then the Red Light in his eye went out like the Terminator". I think They also stabbed himCeltic_Kerr said:The killers poisoned cakes I believe, and the amount of poison in the cakes was supposed to kill him with a single cake, but he ate an entire batch.Severin90 said:Gotta agree with you there.. He was first poisoned which really didnt work, so they shot him and left him. He survived the gunshots too, gets a few exstra bullets and thrown into the river. Later autopsy shows that he didnt drown but froze to death.Celtic_Kerr said:Rasputin actually.
He was a "Holy man" that slept with just about anyone he could for favors, power, and pleasure.He didn't uphold his holy preachings at all. He helped those who could repay him, and never did anything for someone other than him. He manipulated the system to the point where the Russian leader could barely touch him.
But he was a man of charisma, and if he had actually attempted to do great things for the country, I get the idea that he just might have. And that *****. Just. Plain. Refused. To Die!
Gotta give him the credits of being persistent.
They realized it didn't work and attempted to club him to death.
When they came back and he was groaning on the ground, they shot him a few times, wrapped him up in a carpet, and tossed him in a river.
When he was found, there was enough poison in his system to easily kill a man, the gun shot wounds should have killed him, and yet his hands were still positioned on the ropes, as if he were attempting to untie them. It was the exposure that finally killed him.
Well,the topic did say terrible people did it not?Even then,he did it for his people.Bobbity said:Alexander the Great. He was a murderous bastard, but he spread Greek culture all over the world, and helped to pave the way for the renaissance.
Genghis Khan? Really? He achieved the destruction of China's greatest era, and murdered something like thirty/forty million people.Psycho Cat Industries said:Genghis Khan and Hittles.Sure,one unites a world and the other destroys it but a formidable enemy is one you respect.To do otherwise is stupid and warrants underestimation on the part of the idiot.
The one thing going for him was that he was a brutally effective commander; an ability that his grandson lacked entirely.
Grandson. his son was actually reasonably capable.Chase Yojimbo said:Fidel Castro holds a special place in my heart. However Joseph Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Kim Jong Il, and Alexander the Great, who have been mentioned regularily in this thread, I frankly do not respect at all. Butchers of the world, and of their own people. Though I give props to Genghis Khan, until his son fucked everything up.
Not Really... All of his economic policies were basically ridiculous short term gambits, most of which actually REQUIRED the country to operate under police state conditions or constantly be at war (and we all know how that ultimately turned out...) Other than that one time with Chamberlain, he was a complete moron when it came to foreign policy aswell.jumjalalabash said:In terms of war, genocide, and racism yes. But he had died in say 1930 he would probably be considered the among greatest people in modern history.Kortney said:Kanye West. He is such a douche, but his music is so so good.
NEIN NEIN NEIN!Saelune said:Hitler. If he wasn't a bigot, he would possibly be the greatest leader ever.
If I hear someone say this again my head may just explode! Haha.
That's a huge myth. Hitler made many, many unrepairable awful leadership errors and was certainly not the best man for the job.