Consider the fact that votes for Powerless would have been even more worthless! Ah, my poor friends, those who supported me, who wound up with even less than I did! *insert insanely evil cackle*Danji said:
The 3rd Annual The Escapist Film Festival Winner Announced
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If you didn't get mentioned among the winners, don't let it get you down. There are ways to handle rejection. I know a few that might help your future submissions [http://www.blueinkalchemy.com/2009/12/19/pt-handling-rejection/].
Probably. I know for my part there are things I could have done differently with my submission. Hence me going back to the drawing board rather than giving up entirely.varun619 said:
Because I'm not.
I'll be back, etc.
Congrats to Dorian's Quest, although it was the one that I wasn't interested in. I didn't really find it that funny and Pocket Monsters had much better effects and such.
Also, I agree with other people that it doesn't make sense that PM didn't win. I think the Viewer's Choice should be the best award considering that it means that's what the userbase wants to see more of. It's kind of pointless to have a Viewer's Choice, if their choice doesn't actually decide what show they will be watching in the future.
Also, I agree with other people that it doesn't make sense that PM didn't win. I think the Viewer's Choice should be the best award considering that it means that's what the userbase wants to see more of. It's kind of pointless to have a Viewer's Choice, if their choice doesn't actually decide what show they will be watching in the future.
Im so annoied at myself that I didnt get my project finished on time // But there is always next year // Gratz on the winners thou
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Ok can everyone step back from the rampant fanboyism and look at why Dorians Quest won over Pocket Monsters?
A. Dorians Quest has Great sound -
A simple one really, but Dorians quest had crisp, well done sound. Not alot of effects, but it was still amazing work.
Pocket Monsters was fully dubbed over because a boom mic could not be acquired. This severely hurt the overall quality of the film, to me at least it made me feel like I was watching some dubbed Japanese movie. Can dubbed movies be good? Of course, but it just wasnt done properly. This isnt the guys from the Pocket Monster camp's fault, its just something that I know first hand is extremely time consuming for any film maker, and i doubt they had the time to meticulously place every voice perfectly with its user.
B. Dorians quest was filled with wonderful Acting Quality -
The actors in Dorians quests didnt break any boundaries, but the characters were believable and in my opinion had some awesome lines, ex. talking about not wanting to use the walkthrough for the dungeon.
Pocket Monsters on the other hand just didnt have acting up to par, to me this goes along very much with the first point. I think had they been recording the sound directly, the characters would have been more into it. But both characters just seemed stale and boring, they talked monotone, and didnt show any great signs of emotion. Like I said in my post on the PM page, even a depressed badass can smile once in a while or do something crazy. Play the first Max Payne video game to see what im talking about.
C. Dorian quest has Longevity-
Plain and simple, what we got for Dorian's Quest was a teaser, and it worked well, it gave us a taste of what we are going to see for the later episodes of the show. We have the confliction between the two male leads, One is reluctant, while the other is just plain dismissive. We also have the distress and intrigue with the female lead, because of her new found revival into the real world, and her being chased by a giant f'ing ogre. All in all, there is alot that can happen, and there is alot the characters can grow.
With Pocket monsters, the story showed longevity, but that would only be good if the first two points were fixed. Why anyone would want to watch a show every week with sub-par acting and sound quality is beyond me.
A. Dorians Quest has Great sound -
A simple one really, but Dorians quest had crisp, well done sound. Not alot of effects, but it was still amazing work.
Pocket Monsters was fully dubbed over because a boom mic could not be acquired. This severely hurt the overall quality of the film, to me at least it made me feel like I was watching some dubbed Japanese movie. Can dubbed movies be good? Of course, but it just wasnt done properly. This isnt the guys from the Pocket Monster camp's fault, its just something that I know first hand is extremely time consuming for any film maker, and i doubt they had the time to meticulously place every voice perfectly with its user.
B. Dorians quest was filled with wonderful Acting Quality -
The actors in Dorians quests didnt break any boundaries, but the characters were believable and in my opinion had some awesome lines, ex. talking about not wanting to use the walkthrough for the dungeon.
Pocket Monsters on the other hand just didnt have acting up to par, to me this goes along very much with the first point. I think had they been recording the sound directly, the characters would have been more into it. But both characters just seemed stale and boring, they talked monotone, and didnt show any great signs of emotion. Like I said in my post on the PM page, even a depressed badass can smile once in a while or do something crazy. Play the first Max Payne video game to see what im talking about.
C. Dorian quest has Longevity-
Plain and simple, what we got for Dorian's Quest was a teaser, and it worked well, it gave us a taste of what we are going to see for the later episodes of the show. We have the confliction between the two male leads, One is reluctant, while the other is just plain dismissive. We also have the distress and intrigue with the female lead, because of her new found revival into the real world, and her being chased by a giant f'ing ogre. All in all, there is alot that can happen, and there is alot the characters can grow.
With Pocket monsters, the story showed longevity, but that would only be good if the first two points were fixed. Why anyone would want to watch a show every week with sub-par acting and sound quality is beyond me.
We didn't just vote for it for the potential of the series running for a long time or a chance to see Pokemon killing people.Jiveturkey124 said:
Sure the acting isn't quite as good as it could be, the sound wasn't fantastic as like you said, they didn't have a boom-mic (although I filmed a 40 minute film for college without one and it came out fine, no re-dubbing necessary)
And the overall picture quality wasn't as good as Dorian's Quest, all these things I will grant you.
But what you seem to have overlooked, judging by your final statement is that with this series contract and some income coming in from the video itself they could have bought a boom-mic and a better camera.
I mean does no one remember how God awful doomsday arcade was in the beginning? and look at how awesome that's ended up being.
Basically, the people who voted for it saw promise and potential for improvement, topped up with an interesting idea.
And the fact that it's "similar" to TWBB is irrelevant, and I use the term similar lightly.
Sure it's a dark take on the original concept, but at the same time it's a much more focused idea, TWBB is written to contain the nintendo franchises as a whole collective.
Just because Pokémon was included in the idea through association alone, does not mean that any idea about Pokémon is unoriginal (despite the fact that Pokémon has been done before).
So yeah, simple point is, dorian's Quest as much as I admittedly did like it, may well be better made right now, but there's no indication that it's going to improve, sure the story will progress, but unless it gets better no one is gonna be interested.
At least with Pocket Monsters there was room for improvements, and an idea that already reaches out to an established audience.
It should have won, simple as that.
Jiveturkey124 said:
While it is true that Dorian's Quest is well acted, it can hardly be called long lived. It is completely unoriginal, and not very interesting, as agreed by many people, AND PRESENTATION IS ONLY HALF OF ANY GOOD STORY. But opinion is not fact, and therefore the Escapist judges are neither right nor wrong. Though I've lost some respect for them for:
A: Picking a ubiquitous video to win.
B: Giving 2 prizes to one video.
C: PUTTING ONLY ONE VIDEO IN THE MOST ORIGINAL CATEGORY! Sure it was probably the most "original" in an arm length's sense of the word, but mine and tons of others were plenty original.
OT: Congratulations to everyone who entered, winners and unmentioned alike. We should ALL be proud. As for me, maybe I'll put mine on youtube. Wonder how the'll receive it there...
*Does sad panda face for not even making honourable mentions...*
Congrats to winner, Dorian's Quest is a well deserved win as it shows a lot of potential (although I do fell kinda snubbed that an independent film contest entry has such high production values... feels kinda self-defeatist that something about helping those without funding get a show with funding should be won by a entry that was clearly very well equipped and funded... but then again I'm bitter and no-budget... yay...)
But regardless, I did like the winners entry and I'm sure it'll be fun to watch.
Congrats to winner, Dorian's Quest is a well deserved win as it shows a lot of potential (although I do fell kinda snubbed that an independent film contest entry has such high production values... feels kinda self-defeatist that something about helping those without funding get a show with funding should be won by a entry that was clearly very well equipped and funded... but then again I'm bitter and no-budget... yay...)
But regardless, I did like the winners entry and I'm sure it'll be fun to watch.