The 50 Most Boring Opinions In Geek Culture - Part I
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Totally agree with this one. The movies weren't that bad, except for kid Anakin, they were just disappointing compared to the originals. Also, "Half-life was the best thing since Jesus." The Half-life series are good games, but they do not need to be number one on every single top ten video games list. And the "Violent video games do not cause violent behavior" opinion. It may be true, but nobody makes that argument because they did the research and came to this conclusion independently. They make that argument because because they feel a tribal instinct to defend video games like it's their child.Mark D. Stroyer said:
Uh, what?
Street Fighter is a good movie. Mortal Kombat (not Annihilation, though. Oh, god no) is a good movie.
See, they might not be A-movies, but they are excellent B-movies. And they aren't bad B-movies either. They aren't the Shark Boy/Lavagirl B-Movies. They are hammy, over-the-top melodramatic, major over-acting awesomeoness, and has some very classy actors (Chritopher Lambert as Rayden, Raul Julia as Bison) in odd roles, which adds to the joy of watching them just play with the characters and go wild with the setting.
Here's a nice XKCD chart:
So no, I disagree. There are good videogame movies. They just aren't A-list.
Here here. Any movie with a soundtrack that still gets people pumped 20 years on is definitely noteworthy.Realitycrash said:
Also, some pretty awesome cinematography - especially for Scorpion and Sub-Zero.
A list of the most boring over talked opinions on the internet, being over talked about in the most boring manner possible. Most of those points are just Bob's opinions stamped with the mark "We are done talking about this!" Like someone saying "this conversation is over" when you are about to make your counter argument. I am not trying to actively figure out if the Starship Troopers film is better than the book (The Forever War shits on both) I just want to have a nice bit of discourse with my mates over some beers and enjoy sharing a passionate opinion over something that ultimately doesn't matter. It's the corner stone of geekdom and I'll be DAMNED if you try and take it away from me.
What does 'most overrated' even mean, though? What are the standards? Common consensus? Metacritic-score compared to number of players?s69-5 said:
Perhaps it means 'perceived cultural impact of a game on the videogame-medium, as compared to actual impact'. If so, I'd say Wii is overrated.s69-5 said:
I thought it was the other way around for Starship Troopers? The book was all about sayin how much better life would be in a fascist society where the only people who were allowed to have opinions are those who serve their planet. The movie makes a point to show how fuckin terrible that idea is.funksobeefy said:
Some predictions:
* George Lucas is evil (so guaranteed to be number one, I bet he'll bump it down the list just to surprise people).
* JRPGs are not real games.
* Video games are sexist/male-centric.
* People on Xbox Live are dicks.
* EA/Activision is evil.
* Hatred of Twilight, Nickelback, Big Bang Theory, Call of Duty, insert other popular things with a huge divide between mainstream and "geek" opinion here.
* Indie games are pretentious.
* Where is Half-Life (Episode) III?
* Casual/Facebook games/Angry Birds are evil.
* The book was better.
* MTV doesn't play music any more.
* George Lucas is evil (so guaranteed to be number one, I bet he'll bump it down the list just to surprise people).
* JRPGs are not real games.
* Video games are sexist/male-centric.
* People on Xbox Live are dicks.
* EA/Activision is evil.
* Hatred of Twilight, Nickelback, Big Bang Theory, Call of Duty, insert other popular things with a huge divide between mainstream and "geek" opinion here.
* Indie games are pretentious.
* Where is Half-Life (Episode) III?
* Casual/Facebook games/Angry Birds are evil.
* The book was better.
* MTV doesn't play music any more.
It sounds like you're somewhat bigoted sir. Are you only referring to shitty JRPG's? (Baiscally not made by ATLUS or Monolith)Machine Man 1992 said:
Since I don't see Mario, Megaman or Dark Souls having plenty of cut scenes.
Also Japanese games usually have better art design than western games, sure Bioshock and Fallout have a nice 50's aesthetic, but western games tend to look very alike, especially the First Person Shooters.
Okami looks like a umi-e painting, Paper Mario has the paper aesthetic and all 3D Zeldas ignoring Majora's Mask have a different look that you can identify each game with a glance.
Also games in general aren't very subtle, perhaps due to how game design forces things to be obvious. So that always applies to non-Japanese games.
Correct, they are both so different that realistically you can't compare the two. Remember, Verhoven didn't even read the book...funksobeefy said:
... and neither apparently have you (or you completely missed significant points). I would recommend you read the book or at least read up on Heinlein.shintakie10 said:
Well, I guess this is true if you watched and played nothing but shit when you were a kid.
Are you sure you don't have that the other way around? If you don't it's the most asinine statement I've read this week. The movie version of Starship Troopers is so incredibly clown shoes that the only way I've watched it since I was 11 is with rules to take shots at appropriate points in the movie.
Just to give an example, in the movie they drop down to the surface in drop ships like they do in Aliens wearing vests and pulse rifles. In the book they're wearing fucking power armor and get shot out of a goddamned orbital cannon in metal shells towards the planet's surface.
The only explanation I have for this is opinion 44, or you hate reading.
He didn't read the book?! Oh god! This is why our culture sucks. It's 288 pages, it would have taken him an afternoon!Nghtgnt said:
Okay, I'll play:
50) I know quite a few people that can't watch their entry drug anime anymore, myself included. This might come up less if new material would pop up more often (seriously, write an original plot for a video game alreay).
48) I do think fans forget how old some of these movies are and how much cultural shift has happened.
45) We'll see how the next two work out, but the first movie sure covered a lot of that book.
43) You'd almost think some internet blowhard got people overly defensive by acting as if giving fan opinions any credibility would ruin the meduim.
41) Admittedly, most of us aren't fans of paying $60 for a movie that occasionaly lets us shoot things because the auteur in question can't make a go of it in the film industry.
40) It's not tradition. It's we're afraid of what they'll say.
38) Anyone that says this must be required to provide an original idea. Put up or shut up. (same logic applies to this list. You have an open topic opinion show so how about you put out some new topics for us to rage over instead of reading wikipedia history of a comic character more often)
37) What, people can't look crap up on wikipedia?
35) The counter arguement will go away when the root arguement stops being used. (fresh hit to that reset button)
27) funny, I think the new films stank for sticking to close to the original: aka most of the cast existing as a name to sell a toy while fighting over some macguffin.
25) This compalint is as repetitive as the show. How ironic.
Prediciton for next week: Han shoots first has to be in the top five.
50) I know quite a few people that can't watch their entry drug anime anymore, myself included. This might come up less if new material would pop up more often (seriously, write an original plot for a video game alreay).
48) I do think fans forget how old some of these movies are and how much cultural shift has happened.
45) We'll see how the next two work out, but the first movie sure covered a lot of that book.
43) You'd almost think some internet blowhard got people overly defensive by acting as if giving fan opinions any credibility would ruin the meduim.
41) Admittedly, most of us aren't fans of paying $60 for a movie that occasionaly lets us shoot things because the auteur in question can't make a go of it in the film industry.
40) It's not tradition. It's we're afraid of what they'll say.
38) Anyone that says this must be required to provide an original idea. Put up or shut up. (same logic applies to this list. You have an open topic opinion show so how about you put out some new topics for us to rage over instead of reading wikipedia history of a comic character more often)
37) What, people can't look crap up on wikipedia?
35) The counter arguement will go away when the root arguement stops being used. (fresh hit to that reset button)
27) funny, I think the new films stank for sticking to close to the original: aka most of the cast existing as a name to sell a toy while fighting over some macguffin.
25) This compalint is as repetitive as the show. How ironic.
Prediciton for next week: Han shoots first has to be in the top five.
Bigotry implies genuine hatred of a racial group or ethnicity. I just don't like the design...traditions? Conventions? What have you that (many) japanese games have. I hate anime, sure, but it's not because it comes from japan. One game I love and have had forever is Lost Planet. I played that game to death. And it was made by Capcom!ex275w said:
As for FPS's that "look alike", here's a few counterpoints: Half-Life 2, Borderlands, Bulletstorm, FEAR (debatable), Syndicate (I thought so at least), Killzone's 1,2,and 3, Hell even CoD4 was distinctive at the time of it's release for it's photo-realism. Team Fortress 2 can be described as "Counter Strike meets The Incredibles." All of these games can instantly be identified "with a glance".
50:Star Wars: Darth Bane should be the next Star Wars Trilogy made Movie.
25: Fable IV should not be kinect enabled.
1: GTA IV had no Mid-End Game! You cousin was killed for a quarter of a million and you can't even buy a penthouse with your cash.
"New Xbox Live Updates Guide" should not be labeled an Indie Game on xbox live.
Every Xbox update makes the system worse and over advertised.
Xbox live rates are going through the roof with more commercializm being stuffed into it.
Lost isn't that lost, when powerstreamed through on Netflix.
Doing situps and pushups in between games scores you the girls.
"Once does not simply, drop the ring into Mordor with Eagles."
25: Fable IV should not be kinect enabled.
1: GTA IV had no Mid-End Game! You cousin was killed for a quarter of a million and you can't even buy a penthouse with your cash.
"New Xbox Live Updates Guide" should not be labeled an Indie Game on xbox live.
Every Xbox update makes the system worse and over advertised.
Xbox live rates are going through the roof with more commercializm being stuffed into it.
Lost isn't that lost, when powerstreamed through on Netflix.
Doing situps and pushups in between games scores you the girls.
"Once does not simply, drop the ring into Mordor with Eagles."
Ok, you clarified your point, since your first post sounded somewhat bigoted, like you were lumping ALL Japanese games as one design convention, which really only applies for shitty JRPGs.Machine Man 1992 said:
Ok, I really forgot about those First Person Shooters, especially Team Fortress 2, I was probably thinking about the spunkgargleweewees, especially the ones made by EA.