The 50 Most Boring Opinions In Geek Culture - Part I

[Lionsfan]

The point though is that he doesn't have to. That's just a pathetic attempt to smack down criticism. Nobody has to even bother playing Mass Effect to know that the screaming fits were completely unwarranted, and much of the Mass Effect fanbase needed to grow the hell up.

However it is one thing to smack down criticism after having taken time to learn about the grievances and the like. (See here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5548-Changing-A-Games-Ending-And-Destroying-Art] on how to properly deal with these situations, and here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/5525-Mutants-and-Masses] how not to.)

Jim handled it with respect and objectivity. Bob however handled it childishly and used it as a grab for attention.

I think more the irritation with the addition of this grievance to this "Boring Opinons" is Bob dragging this worthless corpse out again without having given it a good, and intellectually honest look for himself just so he can have some more attention. As I stated above.
Best to just ignore it and move on.

(Yes I know I'm giving him attention by proxy since I'm leaving a comment, but I felt I needed to speak out.)

The thing is though, a fanbase does not get to set the terms for which another person calls them out. Bob was calling out a bunch self-entitled dipshits on their poor behavior. Of course he was childish about it, it was an entirely childish protest, and Bob is one of the few people aware that the problem with the games industry is not publishers or creative stagnation, it's the consumers.

I'm sorry, but any argument/reasoning that boils down to "Thing X sucks/has a problem/is stagnating because of the fans!" is just downright silly. How is it the fans fault?

Here's a few examples.

Activision keeps making the same Call of Duty game every year. Why? Because ever rehashed Call of Duty game breaks revenue records set by the film industry.

EA Keeps making sports games. Why? Because they keep selling metric fucktons with every release.

George Lucas keeps superimposing Hayden Christensen into more and more Star Wars re-releases. Why? Because pissing off original trilogy fans is fun.

There are hundreds of other examples. But you cannot fault an industry for taking an easy route for money when it's the consumers who told them to go there.

Game franchises refuse to innovate because by and large the fans don't want them to. If Call of Duty were to massively change up the formula, it's biggest fans would be rightfully pissed off. If MADDEN were to include a team made of Yoshies, it's fans would be seriously pissed off. If Half Life decided to give Gordon Freeman a voice, it's fans would be rightfully pissed off.

And when Mass Effect ended in a way that said "How should we know how the game ended. It's not our story, it's yours. You tell me." the fans were rightfully pissed off. Now, going entirely apeshit and trying to assert nonexistent rights of ownership was going too far, and the whining got so bad nobody with any sense wanted to hear about it anymore. That's why it's on the list Bob made.

You know, none of those examples really proved your point. In fact, you just contradicted yourself.

I mean when you say this:

Bob is one of the few people aware that the problem with the games industry is not publishers or creative stagnation, it's the consumers.

But then proceed to list a bunch of examples of creative stagnation or companies refusing to innovate, it's hard to take you seriously.

What exactly are you trying to say here? Originally I thought you were making a point about gamers acting childish is one of the problems facing the industry today, but now it looks like you're blaming casual gamers for any problems the gaming industry is having

 

[Space commando 75]

Bet there a jab at Halo in the next list.

 

[Grach]

This is a very pointless article, to be honest.

 

[LobsterFeng]

The most annoying "geek" opinion of all:
Criticizing other geek's negative opinions, negatively.

It's kind of scary how much this actually happens on this site.

 

[McMarbles]

I can't help but feel that Movie Bob is being just a little bit...ah...what's the word I'm looking for...judgmental? Yeah kind of. Also Movie Bob, a compliant being "boring" doesn't make it any less valid. I'm not going to shut up after we hit a magical number of times we're allowed to say something before it is deemed boring and generic.

Bob logic: "I'm sick of hearing how horrible The Holocaust was. We should stop talking about."

Because the Holocaust is EXACTLY like Bat-Nipples.

I think we've reached critical stupidity mass now.

 

[NearLifeExperience]

This belongs high in a "Most boring articles ever" top 50.

 

[Draconalis]

32. Starship Troopers was better than the book.

I can only assume the people that make this argument have either, never read the book, are illiterate... or don't know what the hell they are talking about.

 

[Aurora Firestorm]

If I had to put my top few Most Boring Opinions, I'd have to go with...

- "Mass Effect 3's ending ruined everything." (Biggest blowup on my corner of the Internets in ages, and I still want to murder it with a rusty axe. Fanboys, stfu and go on with your lives.)
- "The Star Wars Prequels were horrible." (Frankly, I've never liked *any* of the Star Wars movies, so all of this complaining is moot to me. But if I had to vote for one set or the other, given that I don't care a whit about either, I'd go with the prequels *because at least they're pretty in modern era technology times.* The old ones have not aged well. Yes, this is basically all that I can find to say about them, other than how Genre Defining they were.)
- Speaking of that... "Tolkien/Star Wars/other cornerstone was the Best Thing Ever, and if you don't think so, you have no standards." (I hate it when fans get "set the genre" mixed up with "amazingly good and wonderful and fun." For example, I didn't like Star Wars. I didn't like anything Tolkien ever wrote. Yes, they were wonderful cornerstones that defined genres. No, that doesn't mean they're *fun.* I can respect a work without liking it one bit. It's like how Moby Dick is exceedingly boring except for the fifth or so that matters to the main plot, but it did in fact make a big mark on literature. Now, sure, people do enjoy these works, but really, we're not *required* to think they're super fun in order to be real nerds or whatever.)
- "Artists have a contract with fans." (No they don't. You pay for what you get. You choose where to spend your money. If an artist/author/whatever does something you don't like, the only obligation here is that you either suck it up or quit handing them your money. They have no requirement to listen to you. Nor does it make them "nicer" to pander to you.)

 

[MonkeyPunch]

I wasn't going to chime in on these because the article is older and yeah and stuff... but:
28: Fast zombies aren't "real" zombies. Really? People say that? *hysterical laughter*
I mean I should leave it at that, but does this people have no one to tell them that you know... Zombies are fictional?

 

[MovieBob]

wow,
I think you forget a pretty vital one.
#0.23:"This article is stupid".

Really, so we are actually landing on post-post-post-modernism? to the extent that now something accepted as truth must not be mentioned because it might be unoriginal? Or so often repeated that it is wrong by default? I don't even think there is a point here, other than a superbly pretentious "DUH" drive.

What if someone does think that the Nipple bat suit and the Joel Schumacher's horrid direction DID ruin the modern approach of batman movies?

So, an oppinion is not boring when it is your own? or is it that an oppinion is only "entertaining" when no-one has heard it before, even if it's stupid?

"people have already mentioned what you are saying, it is dumb and you are boring me, shush"

Really.. this is beyond self gratifying masturbational pedantry.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

32. Starship Troopers was better than the book.

I can only assume the people that make this argument have either, never read the book, are illiterate... or don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Have read the book, loved it for being an extremely fleshed out portrayal of military life from a socialist perspective, as well as being the forerunner for every single power armored space marine in existence. I also happen to love the movie for not giving a shit about any of that and giving the book a gigantic, satire ridden middle finger.

It is possibly the worst adaptation of any work next to an Uwe Boll production, but it is also one of the best ironic comedy/satire/action films ever produced, in true Verhoeven style. I love it for sending up jingoistic military propaganda films and pulling the wool over millions of people's eyes.

You can say that people who enjoy the film and not read the book are illiterate, but I can say that the people who watch the movie without realizing that they are being played are just as ignorant.

Either way, both are excellent in their own ways, but quality will be based on your preference.

 

[Draconalis]

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Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I love the movie, I loved how campy it was. I loved how it was trying its best to villianize everything the book portrayed... and failed at it, I might add.

But the claim that an argument that is so overused it's boring... and that argument is that the movie is better than the book?

I don't buy it... especially since I've never heard anyone make any arguments about this either way.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

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Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I love the movie, I loved how campy it was. I loved how it was trying its best to villianize everything the book portrayed... and failed at it, I might add.

But the claim that an argument that is so overused it's boring... and that argument is that the movie is better than the book?

I don't buy it... especially since I've never heard anyone make any arguments about this either way.

Yeah, I wouldn't go as far as Bob did to declare the movie better than the book... since it really isn't trying to be better than the book. It comes down to preference, and occasionally you find people like us who can enjoy both on their own merits.

 

[kburns10]

Thank you for addressing Mass Effect 3! Maybe in 2013, people will let that go. Also, I get the DBZ one a lot. I am one of those people that was introduced to MUCH BETTER anime through the starter, DBZ. I know DBZ isn't the Orson Wells of anime, but it got me into it. You don't need to remind me it isn't Oscar worthy.

 

[42]

Actually I think the Pulp Fiction Vs Forrest Gump one should be changed to "Quentin Tarantino's latest film isn't as good as Pulp Fiction"

because in all seriousness anyone that keeps measuring someones latest work to a previous one everyone is already aware of how good it is absolute bullshit. And I feel sorry for the creator, your trying to show off your new work and everyone's still focusing on something you worked on almost now 21 years ago. Look Pulp Fiction will always be his film that trumps all others, but Inglourious Basterds, Kill Bill and Django Unchained come close in terms of awesomeness.