Wow that's really something. I had no idea Wonder Woman had such an interesting creation and origin story.
The Big Picture: All The World Is Waiting
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I don't have a problem with the desire for an empowerment-driven, radically-politiized superhero...
BUT HOLY SHIT THE CHARACTER CREATION AND IDEAS BEHIND IT ARE HORRIBLE... Seriously, this guy was brilliant, but had a personality disorder, where his views and opinions were shaped by his job and his home life. He might have had two women, but it's pretty obvious from extended reading (I read up on his "homelife" a year or so ago), that he enjoyed being dominated by women, and the bondage-centric early comics, as well as the "ruling class" philosophy were a manifestation of that. So it doesn't take a psychiatrist to figure out who willingly placed themselves on the bottom rung of that household (and who knows what went on behind closed doors), and the fact both women stayed together after his death, pretty much shows the relationships were all mutually enjoyed.
But then, like Bob said, he was a radical, not really enlightened. I like the sounds of the character when she was still politicaly driven though.
However, these people were way ahead of their time with their bisexual polyamorous relationships, which were tolerated because he was rich and no one really understood the concept.
BUT HOLY SHIT THE CHARACTER CREATION AND IDEAS BEHIND IT ARE HORRIBLE... Seriously, this guy was brilliant, but had a personality disorder, where his views and opinions were shaped by his job and his home life. He might have had two women, but it's pretty obvious from extended reading (I read up on his "homelife" a year or so ago), that he enjoyed being dominated by women, and the bondage-centric early comics, as well as the "ruling class" philosophy were a manifestation of that. So it doesn't take a psychiatrist to figure out who willingly placed themselves on the bottom rung of that household (and who knows what went on behind closed doors), and the fact both women stayed together after his death, pretty much shows the relationships were all mutually enjoyed.
But then, like Bob said, he was a radical, not really enlightened. I like the sounds of the character when she was still politicaly driven though.
However, these people were way ahead of their time with their bisexual polyamorous relationships, which were tolerated because he was rich and no one really understood the concept.
More info.Swaki said:is it as good as Batman : Under the red hood, or at least any where near it, cause frankly i thought that "under the red hood" was a mark hamill away from being perfect (the other guy does a good job), and it the best batman movie made, and since i have to order these kinds of movies home from the UK at quite the cost and i have never been a wonder woman fan i would like a little more detail from such a handsome guy like youD0WNT0WN said:.
Steve Trevo a Pilot crashes on the island and during the commotion an immortal baddie escapes and Princess Diana wins the right to recapture him as Wonder Woman. They go to America (in Wonder Womans invisble Jet) and there is alot of fighting as the baddie sends creatures to kill Diana and Steve Trevor. There are big Lord Of The Ring esque battles, blood, social commentary and a trip to Hades where the baddie attempts to reclaim his lost power.
And if all that doesnt sell it it has Nathan Fillion as Steve Trevor and Keri Russell does a fantastic job portraying Princess Diana. She really hits the empowered female voice and Fillion hits his mark as the slightly sexist but loveable Pilot.
And when Steve Trevor awakes tied up on the island by the Amazonians there is one of the funniest one liners in an animated film I have heard in a while.
Also flattery will only get you so far.
"Comics are wierd" sums up why I can't take them seriously and never read them.
However, I find Bob's musings on the subject to be facinating. At the very least I've got a new story to win bar bets with.
However, I find Bob's musings on the subject to be facinating. At the very least I've got a new story to win bar bets with.
Entertaining. Although speaking definitively about Comic book canon is pretty much an exercise in futility considering how many continuity shifts there are. As Bob pointed out before, that is probably one of the main reasons why comics are a niche market.
Wonder woman is just too weird in her current form to be good subject matter for a popular movie. The mythic background is itself very apocryphal, and the blending with modern technology just makes it weirder. You could do a mythical superhero that comes into the modern era, but to change the mythology radically itself is a step too far.
If they wanted to make a wonder woman movie they would be better off giving her a new backstory to draw in the mainstream audience. Of course this would piss off the fan base, and it's a risk to begin with. Let's not forget the travesty that was the 'Cat Woman' movie. Was that Nolan too?
Wonder woman is just too weird in her current form to be good subject matter for a popular movie. The mythic background is itself very apocryphal, and the blending with modern technology just makes it weirder. You could do a mythical superhero that comes into the modern era, but to change the mythology radically itself is a step too far.
If they wanted to make a wonder woman movie they would be better off giving her a new backstory to draw in the mainstream audience. Of course this would piss off the fan base, and it's a risk to begin with. Let's not forget the travesty that was the 'Cat Woman' movie. Was that Nolan too?
The background of her creation sure is a good story, but the character itself is not.
Falls into the same unimagiantive pot where superman is.
They just got a man/woman and stuck on every superhuman trait they came up with at the time, plus a silly name and a costume that really emphasizes the absurdity.
I like a good super-hero as much as anyone, but give them some kind of flavor beyond "my superhero is awesome".
Falls into the same unimagiantive pot where superman is.
They just got a man/woman and stuck on every superhuman trait they came up with at the time, plus a silly name and a costume that really emphasizes the absurdity.
I like a good super-hero as much as anyone, but give them some kind of flavor beyond "my superhero is awesome".
Going solely off the looks based on the images shown, I think that chick who was the love interest of Ben Stiller's character in Mystery Men would fit the role.
Speaking purely from facial appearance anyway.
Speaking purely from facial appearance anyway.
I'm not sure I like where Wonder Woman came from, what with all the bondage and everything *shiver*, but I certainly don't like where she's going. I liked her best in the DCAU.
I don't know if I'm right but I think the title "All the world is waiting" is a line from the theme song for the Wonder Woman tv show starring Linder Carter (it is a very silly theme song but by the end of season 1 it grew on me, I hated how they changed it in season 3)
EDIT - I asked Movie Bob and he said that the title is indeed a reference to the line from the song. Who else noticed that?
EDIT - I asked Movie Bob and he said that the title is indeed a reference to the line from the song. Who else noticed that?