The Big Picture: Boy's Own Adventure

[wearesoneutralthatithurts]

I hate to be....*that guy* advancing the flamewar, but would Bi groups need special attention? If they have a partner of the opposite gender, that's already socially accepted. It would only be if they tried to have a same-sex partner that they'd face any kind of discrimination, and that's what the 'L' and 'G' sections of the 'LGBT' movement are focusing on.

Having said that, Trans groups are pretty darn under-represented and could use a little more positive exposure [footnote]No, not like that you sick bastards....[/footnote].

Well, sadly no. Because- if Bi date the other sex they pass as hetero and arent taken serious because they can "ignore" the discrimination if they just shut up about their sexuality and stay with one partner.
if the person dates same sex, then the whole discrimination goes on-and if the Bisexual wasnt intelligent enough to make the alignment clear, people might/will feel as if the bi has lied to them. And surely bisexuals want the same rights if they choose to date same-sex partners.

and, sadly-there is a bit of bi-phobia in the gay-community. I cant count how often ive heard or read the notion that bisexuals arent good as partners because they can cheat on your every time-if they are with the same sex they cheat because the other sex has things, the partner hasn't to offer (penis/breast&vagina and vice versa) so the partner might feel "incomplete" and unable to compete and instead of getting to the problem of self worth issues, you read "no bisexuals" in the dating-profile. so the notions that bisexuals are inherently more promiscuous is problematic, yeah-because its fucking wrong.

and on parties, often its, well like they think bisexuals are either people who cant decide and are therefore not real gay or just have a phase of gayness and will get normal (parents anyone? luckily not mine^^)
so the orientation is not taken seriously and you are seen as a whore which isnt matured and therefore bisexual or just somebody who is not a real part of gay/lesbian community because the bi can and might date partners of the other sex&gender.

so.. well sorry for the little rant^^

 

[Aardvaarkman]

Bob thanks for pointing this out. I do find it funny that Sponge Bob and Patrick have been a couple for years and no one said anything because they didn't cross dress even though Spongebob is a flaming homosexual.

I thought there was plenty of conservative outrage over Spongebob?

 

[Aardvaarkman]

the absolute funniest part about this is how fox doesn't seem to realize all this does is make more people watch it. I mean I doubt strict tea party parents were letting their kids watch friendship is magic in the first place.

Do you think Fox cares? They don't give a crap about the supposed "values" they blather about. It's all just to get attention (and therefore money) from the target audience. It's not like they actually believe most of the BS they spew. It's all just about creating storms in teacups to fill airtime.

 

[Ishal]

...Are you sure nobody's stuck the whole "gay agenda" thing on the Ponies yet? Or is that just the Internet?

Also - The Hub for me is not the channel to watch Ponies. It's the Channel to go watch Transformers X3

Wait... are you being serious? Have people tried to pin the "gay agenda" on ponies? I'm genuinely curious, I rarely go to the likes of 4chan and /mlp/ so if it originated there I wouldn't know.

OT: I watch ponies and transformers on the internet. But I did hear about this a while back, I assumed people were trolling. Well it looks decent enough, can't be any worse than Johnny Test. If it gets the far right family values clowns in a tizzy, shit... run it for 7 seasons.

 

[DrMcCoy]

Social change should come because of a change in how SOCIETY thinks, feels, behaves.

The society is not some kind of magic entity. It's made up of people.
And this is a huge group of people, a subset of the society, saying they're ready for a change.

 

[downsyndromechimp]

Quick question:

I actually do watch Fox News as well as other news outlets (both right and left leaning/TV and internet based) and before watching this I wasn't aware that this existed, let alone that it was a "thing." So, well, where exactly is the outrage? Maybe it was buried under all the other important news stories he mentioned, but I honestly did see/hear it.

 

[Dangit2019]

hey fox we kind of forget Bugs Bunny loves to drag don't we?

My reaction to this post and this thread as well:


OT: Funny how nobody except Hub fanboys and original fans of the show overseas really knew about this until a bunch of people complained about it. I bet it'll get way more ratings now. Isn't it funny how that works, America?

Captcha: Wash whites separately

Captcha is a fucking racist today.

 

[SirCannonFodder]

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[wildstars]

thank god anime and manga largely flies by under the radar of the bible thumping idiots these days, this is an entire effing genre in Japanese animation and manga.

Amen. Also... This totally reminds me of a 90's oav series called Moldiver.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldiver

 

[rayen020]

Look i'm just saying, If you were mostly unrecognizable, would you (as guys) not wear a dress and lipstick to get superpowers?

 

[Rituro]

So, let me see if I have this correct:

Little-known network debuts a cartoon for kids with a cross-dressing hero(ine) = freak the !@#% out.
Major video game company introduces gender confused character in 1988, continues to use him/her to this day = carry on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birdo

Seems legit.

 

[marurder]

I never heard of it, but I might watch a few episodes to see. Looks reasonable enough if it can keep the humor fresh. Oppose to a Ranma 1/2 retread..

 

[McMarbles]

*applause*

People are actually losing their fecal matter over this? The only thing offensive about this show is the lazy animation.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

Anything that gets Fox News upset is okay in my book. Then again, pretty much everything gets Fox News upset, so it's hard to be surprised at this point.

 

[Soak]

I... uh, uhm... wow - sry, i'm overwhelmed by this amount of irony!

Ok, at it again - First things first, thx for the heads up, because i'm currently not very into what's happening in the USA.
But, holy cow, this is hillarious! Honestly, thank you for pointing this out, otherwise i'd possibly never heard of it and also, i kind of thank those... "journalists" (i guess that's what they call themselves) for bringing it up in the first place. Obviously this is nothing but a desperate try to shift attention from bigger problems onto "anything else", but the fact that this (the whole gender-cazoo) is getting attention this way to begin with - at least i think so - isn't necessary a bad thing. As Bob pointed out, it appears to be pretty much the ultimate punshline of the whole show, so... i guess the joke is even more on those who rage about it.
However, i had a good laugh from this and another point to possibly bring up in future discussions, so it's a double win for me so far. Probably should take a look into the show itself first though, whatevs...

What would these morons think if they watched/read Ranma 1/2?

I guess their minds would be blown - right through their constrained heads. On the other hand, that's "asian stuff and every good citizen knows, those are crazy anyways and noone should pay attention to their shit", at least i guess that's what the FOX-people would bring it down to

 

[Looming_Shadows]

My problem with the show: tweening. As an animator I don't have a problem with method, however in this cartoon it's so apparent it kinda ticks me off. BTW for those of you who aren't animator tweening is a form of animation, that significantly reduces the time and effort into a cartoon, but also reduces some of the quality if done incorrectly.

 

[Looming_Shadows]

*applause*

People are actually losing their fecal matter over this? The only thing offensive about this show is the lazy animation.

As an animator: THANK YOU

 

[omicron1]

Hey, Bob? Would it be possible for you not to alienate, insult, denigrate, and mock half your prospective audience - including me, who you are ostensibly defending, in your videos?


On to the subject at hand: The meta problem, I believe, is not the presence of this show. The problem is that in a matter of a few years, most or all shows will feature or include similar social ideas, and all kids will grow up inundated in this particular brand of culture.

Which, if you'll recall '50s Americana culture - Bible values in everything - this is pretty much precisely the same idea, just that this time you agree with it. Both are equally wrong, because both are equally suffocating to the many, many people who disagree.

A general rule of thumb is, any sociopolitical issue, if you want to know if it's fair, reverse the sides and see if it still seems fair.

 

[Tom Layton]

Gotta say Bob, I'm from Australia and have seen watched the cartoon idly in the afternoons sometimes. I think you're reading too much into it. The main thrust of it is the recogniseable idea of having to swallow your pride, and compared to some stuff like 'A Planet Called Treason', which describes in slightly too graphic detail the process of a man turning into a woman, this thing has really nothing to say about gender beyond 'hey that guy has to dress up like a girl in order to be a hero, gee guys isn't that funny.'
I think you're trying a little too hard to find support for your strange attitude to gender in a tv show (last I checked male and female were fairly binary things or maybe that's just me)

And not that I'm averse to people putting thier views into their show (it's your show after all) do us a favour and find a better validation for them than 'it's the 21st century' - the number of times our planet has orbited the sun since the birth of Christ doesn't really have any bearing on anything whatsoever.

On an unrelated topic, how about doing a 'Batman Revisited' style Big Picture series but with the Superman movies instead. I'm actually curious what you thought of Superman Returns.

 

[Aardvaarkman]

Hey, Bob? Would it be possible for you not to alienate, insult, denigrate, and mock half your prospective audience - including me, who you are ostensibly defending, in your videos?

What exactly are you referring to?