The Big Picture: Continuity Wars

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Continuity Wars

MovieBob shows us the consequences of the new Star Wars movie.

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Mr. Omega

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Well, it's easy to see which part he had the most fun writing... it certainly was the most fun part to listen to. Mario = Superman. Yes.

Also, good job explaining a big reason why I prefer Marvel over DC in less than a minute.

Also, regarding the SWEU: assuming no movies come out before the prequels, what happens to the books set then? Are they considered part of the canon or is the EU an all-or-nothing affair?
 

Gizmo1990

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How could anyone think they would use any of the EU? The little I know makes it out to be an incoherent clusterfuck.

Also will their ever be a Big Picture on the New 52 as I know very little about it and really want to know why Bob seems to hate it.
 

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I never once expected them to pick up the EU. Lucasarts never did, why would Disney. It's not as if the legwork is already done for them and they would just have to throw their infinite supply of money at it until they worked out a script with only a fraction of the effort. That would just be insane.
 

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Haha, loved it. When you think about it, Super Mario Bros. continuity is a heck of a lot more interesting than Zelda continuity.
 

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I want a whole episode of Bob explain the internal continuity, culture, denizens etc. of all the Mario games as seriously as a real anthropologist (exopologist?).

Just sayin'.

Anyway, I agree with the assumption that Disney is going to do their own thing with Star Wars. The books were written from a stand point that they were glorified fan-fiction, meaning that all kinds of crazy (i.e. not focused grouped) things could happen.
 

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Mr. Omega said:
Well, it's easy to see which part he had the most fun writing... it certainly was the most fun part to listen to. Mario = Superman. Yes.

Also, good job explaining a big reason why I prefer Marvel over DC in less than a minute.

Also, regarding the SWEU: assuming no movies come out before the prequels, what happens to the books set then? Are they considered part of the canon or is the EU an all-or-nothing affair?
If George Lucas' words are to be believed/followed, nothing outside the movies is direct canon.
 

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As much as I like some of the EU, there was never any reason to think it would be used for the movies.

And I would say something about the DC's New 52 and how there are really good titles on it, but most of those good titles (like Batman and all the Green Lanterns) largely ignore the continuity reset anyways.
 

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Gizmo1990 said:
How could anyone think they would use any of the EU? The little I know makes it out to be an incoherent clusterfuck.
well your wrong... sorta
because of the different publishers and writers some stories are inspired but don't take place in the sane story world or some stories take place at round about the same time without knowing what came before what.
To be honest the SW:EU with the best continuity are the DarkHorse stuff.
 

MB202

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Talk more about Mario continuity! Talk about the bullshit that was Miyamoto saying the Koopalings aren't really Bowser's children!
 

MovieBob

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I'm Bob, and I'm a Nintendo fanboy
You know, I don't really care much for the storylines in the extended universe, but I wouldn't have minded A Mara Jade.
 

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So I'm NOT the only one who noticed the lack of Shy Guys in SMW when they were in Yoshi's Island!
 

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http://www.cracked.com/article/167_5-reasons-star-wars-sequels-would-be-worse-than-prequels/

Written over three years ago. Thank you cracked.
 

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The EU is a lot like a lot of other geek media. Some of it's good (The Thrawn Trilogy) and some of it's bad (The New Rebellion). Since the good books are generally so praised by fans, like the Thrawn Trilogy, I imagine that's where a lot of the demand to make them into movies comes from. "Look, look, we all love this! Make it into a movie and regain our trust and adoration!" I never believed that they would make The Truce at Bakura into a movie nor that it was a story that needed to be (re)told.

What I'd like to see is the new movies* do something similar to the Rogue Squadron books. Focus on new characters, mention some of the other stars (Luke and co.) in passing, and tell a good story. It's a huge universe with plenty of opportunities for characters, stories and so much more! If you wheel in someone from the original trilogy constantly all it does is shrink the universe. And please stop portraying the Empire as this group of bumbling idiots that can be taken down by some college kids.


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*I'd also like to see the Endor Holocaust because screw you George!
 

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I think Bob has put more thought into the Mario Bros. continuity than most of the people who work at Nintendo, and I'm honestly not certain if I'm more amused or impressed.

I've never been the biggest Star Wars geek. Oh, I like the movies well enough, at least the original trilogy. I grew up mostly in the eighties; what kid didn't want to be a Jedi at some point? And I also quite enjoyed the original Bioware Knights of the Old Republic. But most of what I've read of and about the "extended universe" is just... How do I put this? At best, it was "more of the same"- you thought bounty hunters were cool? Here's another one. You thought smugglers were cool? Here. Jedi? Yeah, we gots yo' Jedi. At worst, it screwed up what was most effective about the original trilogy, Midichlorian-style. "Grey Jedi"...? Either diluting the pool or polluting it.

I'm sure if I searched hard enough, I'd find some continuity that I felt an iron-clad need to defend. In the case of the "Extended Universe", though, it's genuinely hard for me to understand why someone would feel a need to get bitter about something with a quality that the kindest person would describe as "uneven".
 

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Wow...
Bob really geeked out over the Mario Canon...
Can't tell if thats kinda sad
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Or kinda freaking cute...
 

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"...if comic continuity was a person, then you would never be able to ostracize them fast enough."

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The Super Mario tangent was fantastic.

I like to think of LotR or Harry Potter as examples of depth in a universe. It just feels like there is so much more going on in the world than just the events that are taking place within the window of the world that we are watching. Star Wars, yes, Star Trek, definitely (all those tv series added up).
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
I'm Bob, and I'm a Nintendo fanboy
You know, I don't really care much for the storylines in the extended universe, but I wouldn't have minded A Mara Jade.
Bonus of this approach... They might get rid of the Vong in their new stories!