The Big Picture: Going Green: Part I

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idodo35

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vxicepickxv said:
In case anyone was wondering, the sector is official 2814, each member of the corps is assigned a decimal code after the number to signify how much trouble is in the area. Most sectors have one green lantern, earth has four.
for who is wondering why do we have four the reason is aperatly earth is the center of the multiverse (not the universe wich is for some reason centered in oa the GLC headquoters) wich means if earth is destroyed the multiverse (all 52 universes in exitance) will also colapse... (if im not mistaken that almost happened in crysis...)
 

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idodo35 said:
does anyone knows anywhere where i can read emerald twilight? (and if possible zero hour) cause im a big fan of GL (as you can see...) and this is one event that is always mantioned and i realy would like to actualy read it...
also for everyone not familliar with the redicioless (yet awsome) story of GL if you think emerald twilight was wierd wait... when he gets close to the blackest night part thats when it all goes nuts (7 corpses nother less in all the colours of the freaking rainbow! plus a wierd explanation to the "yellow" issue...)
Between the two of them, it's going to be about 40 bucks on amazon.

I'm not really a big fan of any of the GL Corps, but I don't have any problems with Alan Scot or Jade. I guess I'm not cut out for too many space stories. That was the part of 52 I enjoyed the least(Don't bother reading it for any of the major DC superheroes, as most of them are MIA).
 

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I don't know which is scarier, the fact that fanboys got together to form a huge organization to protest fictional events, or that they won.

On a side note doesn't say much for the Green Lantern Corps. when they could easily be defeated by Rainbow Brite.
 

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idodo35 said:
vxicepickxv said:
In case anyone was wondering, the sector is official 2814, each member of the corps is assigned a decimal code after the number to signify how much trouble is in the area. Most sectors have one green lantern, earth has four.
for who is wondering why do we have four the reason is aperatly earth is the center of the multiverse (not the universe wich is for some reason centered in oa the GLC headquoters) wich means if earth is destroyed the multiverse (all 52 universes in exitance) will also colapse... (if im not mistaken that almost happened in crysis...)
Depending on which one you read, will depend on your answer. I know Crisis on Infinite Earths(back in the 80's) was actually designed to remove the multiverse by destroying all of the other universes. Infinite Crisis brought some(?) of them back, and destroyed others.

It's all pretty damn confusing, especially when they brought back super villains from one universe, but didn't give it the same universe number as the first time. Earth 2 was at first home of the Justice Society of America, and Earth 3 was the Crime Syndicate of America. After Crisis on Infinite Earths, the rest of the universes were supposed to be destroyed, everything wrapped up in a tidy package, and never to be spoken of again. Somebody said screw that and opened the door to Earth 2, home of the Crime Syndicate of America.

Of course Power Girl, Psycho Pirate, and a few others decided they didn't want to not exist, so they existed. It's all kind of a reason why I pretty much just said, screw it, it's time to read Y, the last man.
 

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HankMan said:
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HankMan said:
Thanks for shedding some <color= green>light on this subject.
I was hoping you'd do something with limelight, limes being green and all...
Come on, you can do this!
Why would I want to make a joke about limelight?
MovieBob made it quite clear that the Green Lantern is no fruit!
I... I have nothing worthwhile.
The fruit in question must have been a banana. Its yellowness has defeated me.

Also, my captcha:
 

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MovieBob said:
Going Green: Part I

With only two weeks left until the movie, MovieBob sheds (mostly green) light on The Green Lantern.

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But can you tell me that there isn't some scent of agenda when, in the mid-90's "get us out of the Gulf {Part 1)" uproar, they cast aside the military guy for a graphic artist? Not a cop, not even a security guard. Not someone who you'd look at and say, "Yes, this is a person with a calling to defend justice or whatever."

It's either a comic book writer writing his idealized self into a comic, or it's meant as some kind of statement. What that statement was, I couldn't say. But when you do something that off the wall and don't explain your rationale, don't be surprised when people fill in that gaping, obvious blank.

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not a conservative, I'm not a conspiracy-monger. But sometimes, we can allow ourselves to become the polar opposite and reject any notion that someone somewhere has an agenda or an ulterior motive. If there's a FOX News, then somewhere there's the anti-FOX. Newton's third law, man.
I think the idea was more to give the ring to someone with a strong sense of creativity, hence, an artist. Kyle was known for creating mechs, dragons, even supermodels for constructs while Hal was more known more for simple tools (hammers, boxing gloves) or formless energy fields.

Given this was all on the heels of killing Superman and breaking Batman's back, I'm amazed anyone thought there was much political behind it. Just the lastest in big DC marketing schemes...er...events.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
I don't know which is scarier, the fact that fanboys got together to form a huge organization to protest fictional events, or that they won.

On a side note doesn't say much for the Green Lantern Corps. when they could easily be defeated by Rainbow Brite.
They damn near got killed by Superboy Prime, and he barely has any yellow on him.
 

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Not only WAS I pissed about the Emerald Twilight, I AM STILL PISSED.

One of my favorite aspects of Hal's character was that he was more or less the only "human" superhero in the DC universe. Most of the characters are near-invulnerable ubermensch or aliens with exotic features and abilities. Some exceptions include Batman and Green Arrow but their portrayal also tends to be a bit one-dimensional; Batman's primary motivation consistently being his thirst for justice and yadda yadda parents killed, and Green Arrow, as Bob noted in this episode, is the poster child for Seattle-brand liberalism.

Unlike the superpowered individuals around him, Hal was a mere human and the ring was the source of power. That tended to make him more aware that there are consequences to utilizing power, sometimes unintended ones. Granted I may be taking a little bit of this from his "walk da earth" period of self-discovery but I just have a memory of him being singular in viewing his powers at times as a curse rather than a blessing and/or de facto license to punch bad guys.

It was thus that his meltdown and metamorphosis into Parallax was completely non-sensical to me; it was far out of character for Hal, and it dehumanized the most human superhero in the lexicon.

When they made him Spectre, I thought at least that was something. But ironically, the one thing that pissed me off more than the way they wrote Hal off was... the thing that happens in Bob's part two. On a related note, I never understood the geek-love for Geoff Johns; I haven't found his mega-stories to be particularly awesome. Mark Waid's work on The Flash was one of the few bright spots of the 90s.

:edit: And also, Kyle Rayner's a punk.
 

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Cyborg evil Superman?!
Man, I love when Bob goes all comic, its like super-complex math made easy by the awesome teacher.
I love you Bob.
 

krellen

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So, since I loved JLU, for those of you that know things: whence came John Stewart? I dug him as GL.
 

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On a side note, I think it speaks well for Hal Jordan that over the years, he was/will be portrayed by Angel, The Prince of Persia, Spider Man, Deadpool, Doc Holliday, Captain Reynolds AND Jayne, the Dragon's Lair narrator, Kevin Smith and that guy from Law and Order SVU.

:edit: re John Stewart, Guy Gardner was originally supposed to be the "backup" for Hal or something, but he got hurt and the Guardians selected Stewart.

He was a stand-in from time to time, but most notably, he took the job when Hal left the corps in the 80s to be with Carol.
 

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Ugh could we please just pretend the movie isn't coming out? There are plenty of good comic book heroes but considering any iteration of the Green Lantern can be defeated by a #2 Pencil...

Hollywood needs to know where to stop.
 

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Great show Bob, I think your making the Green lantern story more simple than it really is but you only have a limited amount of time after all.

And before the internets we had this thing called pen and paper. Another thing called a telly-o-phone. And people would talk. So people could work together ya know. But now its just so much better, :p
 

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Fanboys got so butthurt they formed an organization to protest the change. Why does that not surprise me?

Really, it doesn't. If the whole Parallax thing happened today, then I bet DC would find their website hacked.

Fanboys are idiots, and calling their objections towards something as "pissing and moaning" is the correct thing to do.

I hate to bring this up in comments section of video about comics, but if you want grade A examples of fanboy pissing and moaning then all you need to do is go to the WoW forums during the beta of a new expansion.

Blizzard introduces new lore or progresses current lore, and the fanboys nerd-rage.

So it's no surprise that comic fanboys do it too, and take it to a whole new level.
 

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I've been reading through the green lantern comics for over a year now, starting at the beginning and working my way up. I am currently at the begging of Brightest Day, I have also read the entirety of Zero Hour. That does not make me an expert but it does give me an different perspective. I've noticed a lot of moral messages are imposed on the reader not only in Green Lantern comics but almost all comics. Many of these moral messages are political as well. I enjoy this because by reading multiple comic titles I'm exposed to different ideals and can better understand others points of view. That being said, I understand that DC wasn't trying to be "Politically Correct" or "Anti-Military" or "Feminizing the Culture" when they turned Hal into Parallax but that doesn't mean that there is no political undertone or message there. I get that many of the people who made the arguments toward it being "politically correct" can be seen as "bigots" but it's understandable that a character who is perceived as more of a conservative is turned evil and replaced by a young artist can strike a chord with people who are fans of Green Lantern and read deeply into the underlying messages of comics to get upset with the message that is sent through this event.

Now I get this show is solely Movie Bob's opinion, but I think that it's wrong for the people who disagreed with political implications of the transformation to be completely written off.

That being said I enjoyed the transformation story and the revival story but I disliked how long it took for Hal to come back.
 

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It's not confusing at all, Bob just left out a LOT of stuff (hope he covers that in part 2) also the fan boys who were like "boooooo Kyle Rayner" and other stuff are dumb asses, Hal turning evil was SO awesome!! Kyle Rayner is also very kick ass as well.
 

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Well atleast now I know I won't have to bother watching the next episode... I mean seriously I'm starting to find this show pretty misleading, I thought it was supposed to be about games, movies, current events (and maybe a little bit about comics) but at this point they might aswell rename it to the comic blog or some shit like that. I'm not just whining because I'm not in any way, shape or form interested in comics but I really don't think this kind of show is fitting for the escapist.

Last episode I will ever see :(
 

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wow H.E.A.T won? this i have to see, but now i want deadpool for some reason.
 

AJey

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Seriously?! Fanboys creating the whole movement JUST to protest a bad decision in a fictional world? That is beyond stupid!
 

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I always thought Green lantern was one of the Weaker DC heroes, but then I always prefered 2000AD over Marvel and DC altogether.

Watchmen excepted of course