Silverspetz said:
elvor0 said:
Silverspetz said:
elvor0 said:
I mean the outfit Ryuko Matoi is wearing has clearly been designed to titulate. Which is fine, it goes into the same catagory as the Dragons Crown Sorcerer and plate mail bikinis, but lets not pretend that it's justified for any reason beyond what the artist found hot.
So just because a design is sexy it couldn't possibly have been conceived with ANY other thought or purpose behind it. Nope, it must have been just because the artist "found it hot". I find that idea far more shallow than anything in KLK honestly.
Well..yeah. It makes Powergirls boob window look conservative, I've seen lingere that covers more flesh, it's hard not to be shallow. If you're going to tell me I'm wrong, at least tell me /why/ rather than just dissmissive in a way that just makes me chuckle. What is the purpose behind it looking like that exactly? I mean look at it:
Are you seriously saying that hasn't been designed with its primary purpose being to titulate with a straight face? There's a difference between a character /being/ sexy, and a character being /designed/ to be sexy. I find Femshep kicking ass in her power armor sexy, but she's not sexualized.
It's quite literally lingere with a "skirt" and a neck ruff. Of course I'm being shallow about it, because I can't see what purpose that outfit design serves beyond the sexy. It doesn't protect you and unless the braces are clipped onto the nipples, there's no way they wouldn't just fall off the second you started moving about. I mean /honestly/, what are design reasons for an outfit like this? Because it clearly goes into the same catagory as a plate mail bikini, which I'm sure you'll agree /is/ designed with sexiness in mind.
First of all, which purpose are you talking about? Are you asking me why the creators of the show designed it like that or are you asking if there is an in-universe reason for why it looks like lingerine, since you keep bringing up the practical reasons why it doesn't work as a uniform? Because there actually IS an in-universe reason, but that wasn't really what I was talking about originally so I will focus on the reasons why the showrunners made their heroine look like that and what purpose doing so serves for the story at large.
Truth is, the outfit IS designed to be sexy, but its primary purpose is to SUBVERT that sexyness and NOT making it sexualized. The whole show is so over-the-top cartoony and all around disinterested in how the characters look that the fanservice deliberately stops being sexy and just becomes something that is sort of "there" (and occasionallyplayed for laughs). In short, the way the sexy stuff is presented actually turns it into something that isn't sexy at all. One of the general themes of the show seems to be the de-sexualization of the human body, and thus the design serves a higher purpose other than to titulate. Ryoko is designed to be sexy, so that the show can DE-sexualize her and make a statement.
Whether or not you agree with this is of course up to you (although I kind of doubt you have seen enough of the show yourself to have much of an opinion). My issue here isn't really about you agreeing that KLK is somewhat deeper show than you give it credit for. My issue is that you have a mindset that is very counterproductive to any kind of intelligent debate about the subject. You took one look at the show's aesthetic design and said that this could ONLY have been done because the showrunners thought it would be sexy and draw in viewers, without a single thought that maybe it could have ANY other purpose beyond that. It looks sexy, so it CAN'T have an other thoughts behind it, regardless of HOW it is used in the actual show. And that is just a very shallow way of thinking. Even if something is obviously designed to be sexy, you shouldn't stop asking yourself WHY it is designed to be sexy.
Oh well, that was exactly what I was looking for, I salute you good sir. Tis a shame my Snorlax no longer dons a hat, or I'd have him tip it.
Truth be told no, I havent seen enough or any of the show, I knew /of/ it, but I was going off of the dude I quoted description of the show, who has watched it, which to me sounded like the plot of a hentai anime, which coupled with the design aesthetic, with none of the proper exposition you provided; I assume you can see why that would colour my opinion.
Yes it was rash of me to word my initial argument in the sense that there could be no other reason for it being sexy, however I still stand by my point that it's primary purpose is to be sexy. The problem is, unless told about why it's like that, there's no reason for me to assume otherwise, it is afterall, a Japanese anime; infamous for their sexual deviency and er...dubious fanservice(it's not like hentai animes with proper fleshed out stories don't exist, I even enjoy some of them) and first impressions are everything, if your promotional material showcases a girl in lingere and someone who enjoys the show describing it as naked people running around to fight an evil clothing company, I'm going to assume that it's going to be a softcore porn fanservicy kind of show.
Who knows, I could watch the show and find it enjoyable, but the promotional material turns me off of it. The way /you/ describe it makes it actually sound quite interesting. But because of the promotional material, you end up with a situation I'm going to write it off as a porno and the people who are inticed by the porno are going to be turned off when they start watching it and discover it isn't.
I am curious as to what the in universe reason is though if you'll sate my curiosity.