After the experiences I had today, I enormous respect for these videos and words of wisdom. The sad thing is, the same people that are complaining about all the sequels that come out are sometimes the same people that go to those every single year. It really is our responsibility to go to movies that deserve the money.
The Big Picture: The Numbers
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i didn't even get to see scott pilgrim in cinema's. no not as in i didn't want to. i couldn't or at least never even hear about our cinema getting it in. how can i help them make money if they don't even offer it or even worse hide it. i've kept check on our major cinema for WEEKS since i heard it people saw it. and what did my cinema gave me? anything but scott pilgrim. they need to check the movies path to every cinema. cus it isn't the movie's quality that lacks. i can tell you that.
Movie theaters are dead. It is no wonder that the only thing that still makes money in them appeal to the lowest common denominator.
Hey guys, lets look on the positive side. Inception made a shitload of money. So did Black Swan. So did The Social Network. 3 movies that show that movies can be clever, arty and financially successful, which will hopefully be reflected in the upcoming months.
True to a degree.Megacherv said:
You see, Call of Duty actually does what it does well, or at least better than others.
Yes, it's now the cookie cutter format for the modern FPS, but you can't deny that CoD titles are actually quite addicting. While I love to rage at those camping, heartbeat-sensing mofos which the game's shortcomings in design allows, it succeeded at holding my interest despite that.
Call of Duty is not analogous to "The Expendables"- poorly made games based on CoD are.
(^ I know you didn't say otherwise (since your post was short), but I thought it was a valid point.)
I've been following Del Toro's attempt to make Mountains of Madness for years. Its a shame really, I've read and seen some of his stuff and the movie would have been wonderful. I hate seeing this thing happen to the guy. Del Toro is the reason I started working with props and movie monster make-up. I just hope some studio somewhere will latch on to the project and let him make it eventually.
I'm glad I didn't know about the "At the Mountains of Madness" thing until now,
Because I would have been LIFE-CRUSHINGLY disappointed about that not coming out.
I mean, I'm pretty disappointed as it is, and I had never even had a chance to get my hopes up.
Because I would have been LIFE-CRUSHINGLY disappointed about that not coming out.
I mean, I'm pretty disappointed as it is, and I had never even had a chance to get my hopes up.
As sad as I am that the Lovecraft project got canceled, I have to hand it to Mr. Del Toro for refusing to budge on his vision. Far too many projects don't come out the way their directors intended them to because the studio wants to lower the rating or market to their perceived demographic (A reason why I am deathly afraid of the long-rumored God of War movie- that movie would ONLY work if it was rated R, but I know the studio in question will go "Oh, video game movie! Let's get in the teenagers and neuter it to a wide-spanning PG-13!). Mr. Del Toro clearly has a clear goal and idea set for his Lovecraftian dream, and I'm willing to trust that his idea is a proper and good one. I hope the project gets made some day!
As for the topic at hand, the main point of the video was not really a discourse on whether Scott Pilgrim was good or the Expendables was bad. (For me personally, I absolutely loved Scott Pilgrim and saw it twice in theaters, but I had zero interest in The Expendables) The idea that Bob was trying to put out there was that box office numbers have bigger consequences for the film industry as a whole than simply how much profit the makers in question get. The Scott Pilgrim example is one that he simply likes to use a lot since he likes Scott Pilgrim so much, but one could observe this effect in a number of other original, low-grossing films across the industry, and the effect reproduces itself in the worlds of video games, literature, and other such mediums. I think that most of us can agree that the loss of a daring project like the Lovecraft one is sad for both those involved and the movie going public as a whole. It's sad to see how much Universal got burned on all of its ventures into uncharted waters but only made profit with a cookie-cutter fourth car-racing movie. The moral of the story is, in order to get the original and daring stuff out there, audiences have to take chances and try new things. Got some extra money? Go see something new and fresh. Sure, you might not like it 100% of the time, but you're encouraging studios to take chances and push new boundaries, and the film industry will be all the better for it. Sequels and the like have their place, but there's always room for new blood and new stories to tell. Sadly, people in general enjoy spending their money much more on safer things that they know, so this attitude probably won't ever spread on a truly major scale, but every little bit helps. And who knows- sometimes we get stories of brave, original projects becoming box office smashes, like Inception and Black Swan.
As for the topic at hand, the main point of the video was not really a discourse on whether Scott Pilgrim was good or the Expendables was bad. (For me personally, I absolutely loved Scott Pilgrim and saw it twice in theaters, but I had zero interest in The Expendables) The idea that Bob was trying to put out there was that box office numbers have bigger consequences for the film industry as a whole than simply how much profit the makers in question get. The Scott Pilgrim example is one that he simply likes to use a lot since he likes Scott Pilgrim so much, but one could observe this effect in a number of other original, low-grossing films across the industry, and the effect reproduces itself in the worlds of video games, literature, and other such mediums. I think that most of us can agree that the loss of a daring project like the Lovecraft one is sad for both those involved and the movie going public as a whole. It's sad to see how much Universal got burned on all of its ventures into uncharted waters but only made profit with a cookie-cutter fourth car-racing movie. The moral of the story is, in order to get the original and daring stuff out there, audiences have to take chances and try new things. Got some extra money? Go see something new and fresh. Sure, you might not like it 100% of the time, but you're encouraging studios to take chances and push new boundaries, and the film industry will be all the better for it. Sequels and the like have their place, but there's always room for new blood and new stories to tell. Sadly, people in general enjoy spending their money much more on safer things that they know, so this attitude probably won't ever spread on a truly major scale, but every little bit helps. And who knows- sometimes we get stories of brave, original projects becoming box office smashes, like Inception and Black Swan.
That's sad... I tried to get people I knew to go see Scott Pilgrim. I went and saw it twice by myself and took a friend another time. It's sad that maybe because of Scott Pilgrim (my all time favorite, if not Top 5 list favorite movie) we might not be seeing a good Cthulu movie. Though I don't really care much for Cameron or Cruise, Del Toro yes but I couldn't care less if Cameron and Cruise were working on it.
People watched TF&F... at the fucking box office?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I have watched... one or more of the films... but I was sat at home pissed out of my head... not in a bloody cinema.
Anyone who watches that trash for any reason other than "there was nothing better on TV at 11pm-1am" well THEY SHOULD BE STERILIZED.
I have watched... one or more of the films... but I was sat at home pissed out of my head... not in a bloody cinema.
Anyone who watches that trash for any reason other than "there was nothing better on TV at 11pm-1am" well THEY SHOULD BE STERILIZED.
The Big Picture seems to be a strange beast, in which Bob switches between "man, 80s comic books/games/tv shows can get a little crazy some times!" and "Its a sad truth of the world that sometimes we need to have positive discrimination to counter some of the crueler periods of human history"walsfeo said:
Goddamnit, I forgot about that Del Toro making a lovecraft movie thing that was buzzing around. No ONE would be better suited for making that movie a perfect adaptation. Who has the rights to it now? Great Old Ones forbid that universal hires someone else to do the job at a lower rating.
It would need to be full out R. It would need someone whos not afraid to shy away from CGI.
I hate this world.
It would need to be full out R. It would need someone whos not afraid to shy away from CGI.
I hate this world.
teh angR flows tru me > :|
but seriously, good episode but the sad part is that there is nothing we can do about this
but seriously, good episode but the sad part is that there is nothing we can do about this
