The Big Picture: Untransformed
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I personally didn't mind the other Transformer movies. I've never watched the Transformers cartoon, or anything. I found Transformers 3 ok, a bit bad, and the 3rd act (in the city) reeeeeally drags out, but i found some of the action scenes rather awesome (Though i have to say the human story arcs were boring).
Not saying i am an idiot (As Bob might've called me), i just have a system, with 2 different sort of movies: Those i watch for mindless entertainment, and those i watch to leave impressions on me, and how i percieve different things. Transformers falls into the former category, whereas a movie like Letters From Iwo Jima would be the latter.
Not saying i am an idiot (As Bob might've called me), i just have a system, with 2 different sort of movies: Those i watch for mindless entertainment, and those i watch to leave impressions on me, and how i percieve different things. Transformers falls into the former category, whereas a movie like Letters From Iwo Jima would be the latter.
I'm torn between saying "great episode with an excellent reality check" and "what, this rant again?".
I agree that it's best not to get our hopes up, but if I had to hope my hope would be that the new transformers reboot it enough that the robots don't look stupid. The transformers you showed from the video game look cool, why can't we have that?
Also, which hero do you think (RAMPANT SPECULATION) will either get a TV series from, or killed off in, the Avengers movie? I'm betting in either case it's Hawkeye. Why killed off? Don't you remember who's writing this thing? Why a TV show? Smaller effects budget.
I agree that it's best not to get our hopes up, but if I had to hope my hope would be that the new transformers reboot it enough that the robots don't look stupid. The transformers you showed from the video game look cool, why can't we have that?
Also, which hero do you think (RAMPANT SPECULATION) will either get a TV series from, or killed off in, the Avengers movie? I'm betting in either case it's Hawkeye. Why killed off? Don't you remember who's writing this thing? Why a TV show? Smaller effects budget.
Bob, I just had a realization. Remember how foreign films critics AT THE TIME were always harping on the low budget and stilted acting of the Godzilla films from Toho? Those are considered classics of the film genre now. Could it be that the Transformers films are in a way, the American/Western version of that archetype?
Yes, I'll be the first to admit that the Transformers movie sucked. In my opinion, the first film is the only even watchable. The other two are schlocky mixes of bad jokes and action stunts by a hack director. I personally think that a good plot, taken with bits a pieces for the next movie, would be the recent Transformers Animated that ran on Cartoon Network. Yes, it was often goofy, but it took what was left of the original source material and managed to build a whole new vast universe and mythos with it.
Not every movie is going to be Citizen Kane, and not every movie is going to be Plan Nine From Outer Space. Also, yes, I share your dread of the upcoming Spider-Man reboot.
Yes, I'll be the first to admit that the Transformers movie sucked. In my opinion, the first film is the only even watchable. The other two are schlocky mixes of bad jokes and action stunts by a hack director. I personally think that a good plot, taken with bits a pieces for the next movie, would be the recent Transformers Animated that ran on Cartoon Network. Yes, it was often goofy, but it took what was left of the original source material and managed to build a whole new vast universe and mythos with it.
Not every movie is going to be Citizen Kane, and not every movie is going to be Plan Nine From Outer Space. Also, yes, I share your dread of the upcoming Spider-Man reboot.
Ah, someone else who hasn't forgotten the best line from MIB.
Truth be told, I kinda didn't mind MIB2, despite its obvious major flaws. It entertained me, at least.
OT, though, I have to think that not many people to whom this video is addressed really have much hope for it by now. Like Sonic fans, they just shake their heads at whatever new disaster comes down the pike and continue to look at things the way they used to be.
Truth be told, I kinda didn't mind MIB2, despite its obvious major flaws. It entertained me, at least.
OT, though, I have to think that not many people to whom this video is addressed really have much hope for it by now. Like Sonic fans, they just shake their heads at whatever new disaster comes down the pike and continue to look at things the way they used to be.
..Black comedy with miami-bodybuilders? -Shudders-
I'm forseeing yet another "black comedy" that will end up a Dude-bro movie akin to The Hangover 2.
I'm forseeing yet another "black comedy" that will end up a Dude-bro movie akin to The Hangover 2.
It's really interesting (and sad at the same) that "check your brain in at the door" movies like Transformers make so much money compared to movies that try and push the medium to new heights, but that's not new since people nowadays strive for instant gratification rather than working towards something more rewarding.
Actually, i did expect another Transformers movie. I mean, let's be honest here, Saw had 7 parts and that franchise was not nearly as successful as Bays Transformers movies. I mean, sure, they weren't nearly as expensive either but as long as the make more money than they cost it's pretty obvious that they are going to make more movies. It's not like Michael Bay had any sort of artistic integrity.
Glad that you brought up War For Cybertron, because I think that the only way that a Transformers movie will be any good is if High Noon writes it.
On a side note, why would you want Hawkeye to look like the comic version? I mean, the costume is so goofy to the extent that it only works in the comic. The thing he has on in the movie works in the real world.
On a side note, why would you want Hawkeye to look like the comic version? I mean, the costume is so goofy to the extent that it only works in the comic. The thing he has on in the movie works in the real world.
This is why you have to lower your expectations and just be thankful for the parts they get right.
With all due respect Bob: We get it, you don't think the Spiderman reboot is going to be good.
Please just drop it. Wait until it comes out or something.
Apart from that, a pretty good episode. Although I feel you might be being slightly too elitist with your attitude towards the 'average' moviegoer.
Please just drop it. Wait until it comes out or something.
Apart from that, a pretty good episode. Although I feel you might be being slightly too elitist with your attitude towards the 'average' moviegoer.
Way to contradict yourself... again. *points to The Phantom Menace episode*
Oh, and nice one on insulting the fans of these movies... again.
Seriously, Bob; Grow up.
Oh, and nice one on insulting the fans of these movies... again.
Seriously, Bob; Grow up.
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anyway, very good point bob. but with all the good comic book movies that are out and coming out that appeal to a wider audience and please the fanboys, it's very possible the next transformers movie will follow that model of trying to please everyone.
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anyway, very good point bob. but with all the good comic book movies that are out and coming out that appeal to a wider audience and please the fanboys, it's very possible the next transformers movie will follow that model of trying to please everyone.