Well...HL3 is something that people want to see happen, and that nobody is actually working on (I think).IrateDonnie said:
DNF was always going to be crap, and people were always working on it.
The Biggest Joke in Gaming
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DNF was always going to be crap, and people were always working on it.
I can get behind those criticisms more. I do agree, it's no masterpiece of storytelling, and it could have been improved in a number of ways, just that the angle of going at it because it was filled with a few activities that slowed down gameplay a bit, but improved narrative and story focus felt like it was missing the point. For example that crate moving bit you were talking about, the entire point of it was to show even the main character's frustration with the monotony of how things would be if he continued down that path. And as I recall, you had the option as well to just walk away from it as well. The purpose for things like that are a bit more world building that a lot of games I feel just skip out completely these days. I mean, stories and such can't constantly be rising action until the finale and then just end, it has to have some room to breathe as well.Racecarlock said:
And yeah, sorry, went a bit over the line with the ADD remark, but that's my own personal frustration that came out a bit there. Seriously, going back on that and reading it again, I do think that was over the line, so again, sorry 'bout that. It's just I find both Saints Row and Red Faction to be some of the bottom of the barrel sandboxes that, especially with Saints Row's case, are held up way too high. Both are a bit of fun once in a while, but get very boring very quickly because there's no real sense of achievement or challenge present in each which are major crippling flaws. It's all cheap thrill. Sure you can go knock down a building, or go around with unlimited ammo and invulnerability to near everything and cause some chaos but both have the same amount of substance as piling a bunch of bodies together on some explosive barrels on GMod and then watching them go flying. There isn't much satisfaction to be had when everything is spoon fed to the player. And this is coming from someone who played the original Saints Row after launch and loved it. The demand by people to make that game just more and more over the top absolutely ruined it in my mind.
Anyways, I'll cut off my rambling now. Short version, I can agree with those criticisms on story and such more, though find going at its slower pacing originally to be fairly shallow, and am sorry for the ADD comment there, but personally find Saints Row to be one of the worst sandboxes out there.
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Um yeah... pretty much. I can take Platinum, From Software, and Atlus (I'm probably forgetting other worthy non-f*** ups) pretty seriously nowadays. Those devs have no time for such petty jokes.KazeAizen said:
But other then that the gaming community and industry is one big joke atm.
Not sure if I should be smiling or crying in the corner about it though.
Farming simulator.
Seriously who plays a game to farm?
i have a friend who is a farmer who has rocked up over 200 hours on it and its pretty much all he does when he's not farming
Seriously who plays a game to farm?
i have a friend who is a farmer who has rocked up over 200 hours on it and its pretty much all he does when he's not farming
Gamers who whine about how the only games out there that are being made are either first person shooters or third person shooters, but seem to base their game buying on what has the most shelf space at GameStop. Gaming is, essentially, in a new golden age right now for diversity and quality. Steam alone has greenlit over 300 games in the last few months, and indies are even big news on the consoles these days. It's not the fault of anyone but yourself if you can't find something cool to play. Expand your horizons a little, support what you like and don't support what you don't like (and don't blame anyone else for liking something that you don't).
And, as an honorable mention, Nintendo. No, not Nintendo the gaming company that provides solid (yet I would say largely unsurprising) content on a semi regular basis. I mean Nintendo the company that still runs itself and views the gaming world at large as if they were still a playing card company in the 1800s. They do seem to be getting better but it still seems to only be a couple months at most before there's another "Oh, you Nintendo" face palm moment.
And, as an honorable mention, Nintendo. No, not Nintendo the gaming company that provides solid (yet I would say largely unsurprising) content on a semi regular basis. I mean Nintendo the company that still runs itself and views the gaming world at large as if they were still a playing card company in the 1800s. They do seem to be getting better but it still seems to only be a couple months at most before there's another "Oh, you Nintendo" face palm moment.
Kingdom Hearts 3 almost joined Half Life 3 in that realm. What was worse though was other KH were actually being made. Then something happened and apparently Square Enix decided its going to get its shit together and start pushing out stuff we've been wanting/waiting on.thaluikhain said:
I agree with this one. The xbox one's shortened name, xbone. Really?Yopaz said:
I have to say I understand the logic behind that one. Let's turn real life into a game.BunnyKillBot said:
I wouldn't say bleak, I'm still enthusiastic about upcoming titles. Titles that aren't obvious generic shrivel, something I can enjoy without thinking about the garbage the industry/community pull. Sometimes ignorance is bliss when it comes to this hobby. I'm not trying to be a debbie downer I was just joking, I'm just disappointed in all the negative and would rather focus on whats positive is all.KazeAizen said:
"The positive" being something this thread clearly isn't focused on.
Eh. Its my own fault. I had a weird mindset when I made this. I was mostly thinking in terms of things that are almost considered universal jokes. Like IGN, EA Sports, The Spike VGAs. Clearly I mis worded it and just had a bunch of negativity brought in instead of something we could all laugh at. Consider this thread dead.Xcell935 said:I wouldn't say bleak, I'm still enthusiastic about upcoming titles. Titles that aren't obvious generic shrivel, something I can enjoy without thinking about the garbage the industry/community pull. Sometimes ignorance is bliss when it comes to this hobby. I'm not trying to be a debbie downer I was just joking, I'm just disappointed in all the negative and would rather focus on whats positive is all.KazeAizen said:
"The positive" being something this thread clearly isn't focused on.
A dead thread?! Not on my watch!!!!!!! Relevant video, activate!KazeAizen said:Eh. Its my own fault. I had a weird mindset when I made this. I was mostly thinking in terms of things that are almost considered universal jokes. Like IGN, EA Sports, The Spike VGAs. Clearly I mis worded it and just had a bunch of negativity brought in instead of something we could all laugh at. Consider this thread dead.Xcell935 said:I wouldn't say bleak, I'm still enthusiastic about upcoming titles. Titles that aren't obvious generic shrivel, something I can enjoy without thinking about the garbage the industry/community pull. Sometimes ignorance is bliss when it comes to this hobby. I'm not trying to be a debbie downer I was just joking, I'm just disappointed in all the negative and would rather focus on whats positive is all.KazeAizen said:
"The positive" being something this thread clearly isn't focused on.
Your forgetting the Nintendo 2ds that came out after the Nintendo 3ds, which came out after the Nintendo DS! This is one hell of a way to confuse parents when they are Christmas shopping for their kids!Yopaz said:
Some other personal jokes:
- Preordering anything, especially DLC.
- Personally I think yearly sequels are a joke (madden, any sports game, cod, battlefield/moh, Acreed, new super mario, etc), why do people want to play similar games every year.
- The fact that these companies can't make a profit even when they sell 6 million copies
- Fanboys and how defensive/angry everyone gets on forums (this applies to all fanboys)
- That fact that after a couple months every Perfect/Near Perfect/Ground Breaking/Amazing/10 rated pretty much across the board, game starts to get despised. It is amazing how everyone is so defensive of a games quality and will say it is the best game ever and fight the 2 reviews to the death that dare give it a 7 only for a few months to pass and everyone realizes that the game wasn't as great as everyone first thought (GTA4 definitely springs to mind, but a ton of games have this happen, Bioshock Infinite, Skyward Sword (a game I have always personally thought was mediocre), etc).
- People that will fight reviews to death and tell the reviewer they are wrong for having an opinion and bringing up reviews from 3 years ago.
Already calling a game series with only, like, two or three released games under their belt a "franchise"...
To me, personally, I find that to be both hilarious and a bit of a misunderstanding, because when I think of "game franchise", I think of a series of up to 10 games (5 if they're just that good not to continue further and/or has more upcoming titles in the future) under the same IP...
Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think those kinds of games are bad, per se... They're just not at the point of being called a "franchise" yet... (Let me know when I can count all of the games in this particular IP series with more than just one hand and then we'll talk...)
To me, personally, I find that to be both hilarious and a bit of a misunderstanding, because when I think of "game franchise", I think of a series of up to 10 games (5 if they're just that good not to continue further and/or has more upcoming titles in the future) under the same IP...
Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think those kinds of games are bad, per se... They're just not at the point of being called a "franchise" yet... (Let me know when I can count all of the games in this particular IP series with more than just one hand and then we'll talk...)
Honestly I would have to agree with Phasmal here, one of the biggest jokes in gaming is every single one of us.I mean here we are arguing about what the "Biggest Joke in Gaming" is. I can not say very many of us actually care enough to do much about the problems everyone is talking about other than sit on our asses complaining.Phasmal said:
League of Legend's current Lore Team, Kitae managed to piss off fans of the League of Legends Lore with terrible champions who are boring and uninspired and been smashing things with the Retcon hammer of doom.
Ok... So you acknowledge that there is no player choice. Only predetermined paths the devs put in place. If there was player choice you could make any choice you wanted in a game.Evilpigeon said:
Other than text only games, like Pokémon, what game has characters call you by your custom name? Shepard, Hawk, the Nerevarine, the Dragonborn, the Lone Wanderer, Courier, the Grey Warden, ect.
But there are only responses for things the devs said you could do.
Vast majority is still the illusion of choice. I couldn't shoot some fool in the face on the Citadel in ME, get arrested for murder and doom the galaxy. I couldn't do anything but pick one of a handful of predetermined ending in Deus Ex: HR. I couldn't be a good guy in Far Cry 3 without sounding like a whiny emo pacifist in the post game dialog. Dialog choices in games simply don't matter. DA, ME, Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 3, Fallout NV, Dragon's Dogma, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning, ect, ect. If the person was quest essential you could say anything you wanted, but the character was destined to help you. You couldn't say anything to absolutely turn them against you, and if you could you knew there was an alternate person to talk to. Games don't give the player the option to piss someone quest essential off and fuck themselves. Morrowind got close by letting you kill quest essential NPCs and ruining your main quest, but they promptly "fixed" that in Oblivion and Skyrim.
Examples?Piorn said:
Sorry, but I like pixel art, and the idea that 'indie developers are lazy' irritates me no end. Not that that's what you're saying.
Do you really think stuff like Resonance and Volgarr the Viking look like shit?
I'd agree with this. I still wryly chuckle every time gamers urge others to vote with their wallets on an issue, but then the game is still ridiculously successful and you get thread after thread of people complaining about it.Phasmal said:
To go even further, just the general fact that so many people feel the need to criticise what other people enjoy playing. In an ideal world, it would be accepted that we're all gamers and we all like to have fun playing games, any games. But no, we constantly get people deriding other people's choices of game, and saying how they must be so much better for not enjoying it. I always feel that this says more about the person being critical than the person that is actually enjoying themselves.
This translates into reviews as well. I really cannot understand why people get so up in arms about review scores they don't agree with. So somebody thought a game deserved a 9 instead of a 10, how does this actually affect anyone? Why do people feel the need to spew hate because others don't share their opinions. I just don't get why people care.
The joke of course being that these people will often agree that enjoyment is subjective, but still argue that others are wrong for not liking the same things they do.
That actually turned a bit more bitter than I intended. So I'll add that every time I hear WiiU an ambulance noise plays in my head and I smile. I think that's a pretty funny joke.
You seem to have the ability to approach a problem in multiple ways and come out with multiple solutions - i.e. choices - confused with perfect choice, which would be the game reacting to everything you could possibly think of doing.Sarge034 said:
my whole point was about using text dialogue to allow for a far greater variety of choice what do voice acted games have to do with that?
The devs decide the rules for whatever game I'm playing, I don't see how this is different. The whole point of my post is that with the correct tools i.e. text dialogue and the right graphical style you can build in a very high level of choice. We're back to high variety of choices versus perfect choice.
Every game you listed there is irrelevant to what I'm talking about apart from Morrowind. Seriously you keep brinign up voice acted games, it's like you didn't read a word of what I was writing.
Look up the games I talked about, Fallout 2 and Arcanum. Come back and tell me it's all illusion of choice, obviously some of it is, that's the nature of things but it's quite possible to have a lasting impact of chunks of the world or for the world to have one on you.
Both games give you the ability to significantly change the world you're playing in and the world's reaction to you in a non-trivial way. Most quests have several possible solutions and they account for players actions within the rules to the point where they account for you playing as character whose intelligence is to low to properly communicate with everyone else.