The Bystander Effect...
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Because vigilantism is so much better than getting a cop. I WOULD WALK AWAY, duck behind a corner, call the cops, and tell them where I was and what was happening. Encouraging people to do anything else is dangerous. What if he had a gun?
To all the people saying that "it just looks like a bratty kid," I can see where you are coming from. But simply informing the cops wouldn't hurt. One false alarm won't cause the end of the world, but one successful kidnapping could end that child's world.
To all the people saying that "it just looks like a bratty kid," I can see where you are coming from. But simply informing the cops wouldn't hurt. One false alarm won't cause the end of the world, but one successful kidnapping could end that child's world.
That is disturbing. Unfortunately, it's just our nature. I know it's easy to confuse her for a disobedient child, but I might've not done something too in case he was just her dad, as I probably would've said something offensive or tried to tackle the guy or something unnessecary.
It's sad, but it's a sad truth.
It's sad, but it's a sad truth.
Honestly, I'm not surprised by this. Most people either think its a kid being too whiny or they just outright don't care.
When people hear a kid screaming in public, no matter what they're saying, they just ignore it.
Though, honestly, by the way the guy playing the "abductor" was acting and the girl yelling, I would have passed by too, simply thinking it was a bratty kid whining about something or other.
When people hear a kid screaming in public, no matter what they're saying, they just ignore it.
Though, honestly, by the way the guy playing the "abductor" was acting and the girl yelling, I would have passed by too, simply thinking it was a bratty kid whining about something or other.
This really isn't that surprising. If I saw that, I would assume it was just another parent with a screaming child, don't all kids act that way? I wouldn't glance twice.
im far too desensitized to public misconduct to interfere with most domestic disturbances. ive seen unruly children claiming similar things of their actual parents, so for people like me, screaming 'your not my dad' is something bratty kids say all the time when they dont get their way, and standing alone in the middle of town isnt exactly something most kids are allowed to do.
the cry wolf effect is more accurate. lo and behold, it wasnt an actual kidnapping, so all those peoples instincts were right. now if he ran up and grabbed her without notice, her kicking and screaming the whole way, then the only excuse for not doing anything is the bystander effect. in that video though, quite understandable to do nothing.
the cry wolf effect is more accurate. lo and behold, it wasnt an actual kidnapping, so all those peoples instincts were right. now if he ran up and grabbed her without notice, her kicking and screaming the whole way, then the only excuse for not doing anything is the bystander effect. in that video though, quite understandable to do nothing.
Really, anyone who takes an introductory psychology class will likely learn about the "bystander effect". It's just the way most people are.
That's really the best response you could make. It just doesn't look like much.SuperMse said:
No. I saw somoene get shot and everyone just stood around staring like he was gonna get back up. Its like Tommy Lee Jones said in Men in Black 1.
<quote=Agent K>A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it.
And yes, I did do something about the person shot. I worked a tourneken (I know I spelled that wrong) and got people in gear. You get used to it after seeing your friends get knocked down and out and hurt when playing Hockey.
<quote=Agent K>A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it.
And yes, I did do something about the person shot. I worked a tourneken (I know I spelled that wrong) and got people in gear. You get used to it after seeing your friends get knocked down and out and hurt when playing Hockey.
I wouldn't attack him I would just drop a comment and try to draw others attention to him. Same way I deal with crying kids at restaurants. If he started forcing her into a car I'd call 911, but everyone knows how kids are today I would have to have a fake call because of some brat.
After reading your comment, I just realized something else- what if he were innocent, but you didn't think so? Would you beat up on the girl's father or legitimate caretaker? Separate her from him? Getting an authority figure involved is really the best idea. If you're really worried about them getting away, I can assure you that in an area like the one in the video, there would be plenty of cops around. Beside, they can find anywhere in a city pretty quickly if you just tell them where it is and say "potential child abduction."burningdragoon said:
Yeah, that's another good point. Most people probably won't think of that either. (For example, I didn't either >.>)SuperMse said:
to be honest, i think a better example of the bystander effect is the murder of kitty genovese... belief that someone else will help so you don't have to
Ahh yes, deffusion of responsibility.
There was an experiment done where in scientists put a subject alone in a room to participate in a "memory test", the test of course was bogus. The real expirement started when the scientists started filling the room with smoke. As you can imagine pretty much all of the subjects in the experiment left the room rather quickly.
Then they performed the same experiment with one differance. This time they put multiple subjects in the same room to perform same "memory test". This time the subjects were slow to move if they did so at all.
One of the theories proposed was that when people group together the responsibility deffuses among them, and each places resonsibility on the others. Kind of like "Well, thery're not doing anything why sould I?", "If they're not worried then why should I be?", or "I don't have to do anything; someone else will."
There was an experiment done where in scientists put a subject alone in a room to participate in a "memory test", the test of course was bogus. The real expirement started when the scientists started filling the room with smoke. As you can imagine pretty much all of the subjects in the experiment left the room rather quickly.
Then they performed the same experiment with one differance. This time they put multiple subjects in the same room to perform same "memory test". This time the subjects were slow to move if they did so at all.
One of the theories proposed was that when people group together the responsibility deffuses among them, and each places resonsibility on the others. Kind of like "Well, thery're not doing anything why sould I?", "If they're not worried then why should I be?", or "I don't have to do anything; someone else will."
This is nothing new. In highschool, I was taught that if you're being raped, you should shout fire because more people will respond to a fire than a rape, mostly calling 911, but at least they'll do something. Don't just shout, but shout fire, for some reason people react more and you don't get that diffusion of responsibility, or, bystander effect.
She didn't sound like she was geniunely afraid. It was plainly obvious that she was acting (or acting badly, rather)
I would, but only after first pausing to think "is this a kidnapping or is that the kid's dad?" Because I tackled a "kidnapper" before, and it turned out the kid was just a rebellious punk and a liar. He screamed that he was being kidnapped, so I punched the guy in the face. When I found out what was really going on and dealt with mall security, I bought the guy lunch to apologise. He was real nice about it. Apparently he was going through a divorce and the brat favored the mom. But man do I feel paranoid now when I hear a kid screaming in public.