The Collectable Doodad Commandments
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You and I playing would be hilarious. Epic battle of the lootersOnyx Oblivion said:
OT: I agree with Onyx. The camera wasn't an issue, butthe rest was rather hateful. OH!
DO NOT HIDE THE DOODADS BEHIND FIFTEEN CAREFULLY PLACED HURT-MINES!
This is a real game..?
The plot/theme still fits with most games that have collectibles, though.
The plot/theme still fits with most games that have collectibles, though.
I never have, and never will, use an FAQ. Once you do that, you're pretty much bound to eliminate any sense of exploration the game might have given you, and to me, that's a large portion of the fun, even if it means I miss the secret crap. I'll probably go back and re-do that level anyway.Optimystic said:
You could just use it for that one fork in the road and then go back to playing without assistance.coldfrog said:
Besides, if you feel that strongly about it, why does not knowing the way to go bother you? Shouldn't it be fun then?
I don't mind collectibles when they're bound to something worthwhile in game. So long as you only get an achievement for finding them all, or some bonus artwork etc then I'm good. It's when the game places an emphasis on finding them in order to gain some kind of experience point or get new loot.
Examples: Flag collecting in Assassins Creed was no problem, as I didn't miss anything by not doing it. Psychonauts, on the other hand, could fuck right off when that introduced 3/4 different things to search for, some of which require level-replaying upon receiving abilities later in the game. The only part of Prince of Persia 2008 that I didn't like was the need to replay a level collecting light-orbs so that you could unlock the next section. That was at least made ok because the game was fun to play and so damn beautiful. Plus the level changes look entirely when you complete it so replaying it to get the orbs isn't too stressing.
Examples: Flag collecting in Assassins Creed was no problem, as I didn't miss anything by not doing it. Psychonauts, on the other hand, could fuck right off when that introduced 3/4 different things to search for, some of which require level-replaying upon receiving abilities later in the game. The only part of Prince of Persia 2008 that I didn't like was the need to replay a level collecting light-orbs so that you could unlock the next section. That was at least made ok because the game was fun to play and so damn beautiful. Plus the level changes look entirely when you complete it so replaying it to get the orbs isn't too stressing.
Frankly, yes, they are. I never came across a truly "split path" that screwed me out of a game-winning amount of cash. Just a few more pennies to drop on the pile. The only two instances that I was left without ample opportunity to collect the pittance of glowy bits that were around were in one boss battle that popped directly to a cutscene, and a "racing" portion of the game.DayDark said:
If y'all have got such a hard-on for progress that you can't snoop around for five minutes, then maybe you shouldn't be complaining that the little dots are too hard to find, maybe you should pounding through all your games like it's prom night and the rufies are about to wear off.
That's great! And I look forward to you telling me what I should make strips about.moshineko said:
We are going to have to work on that 'things you don't care about = things no one cares about' attitude though.
Yeah, I'm playing through this game now and every time I see those little orange orbs, everything gets dropped immediately until they are collected. Cutscenes end and while Trip runs off one way, toward the objective, Monkey sprints in the exact opposite direction to do a huge lap around the entire area for the little buggers. The "whilst chased by a face-eating monster" ones are the worst smacks in face.
I've never been much of a collectible person.
For proof, I offer my latest game: Assassin's Creed II. I only got 35 out of 100 feathers... got everything else, though. (Not chests, those don't count.)
Otherwise, Enslaved looks like a cool game, worth a rent for sure!
For proof, I offer my latest game: Assassin's Creed II. I only got 35 out of 100 feathers... got everything else, though. (Not chests, those don't count.)
Otherwise, Enslaved looks like a cool game, worth a rent for sure!
Awwwww. Punkins awtist gots his feelins huwt? Well, that's fine, mommy fanwank make it awwww better. Gosh, makes me miss art classes. If you put your work in a media that allows for instant feedback, endeavor to grow a thicker skin, and for christ's sake, don't feed the trolls. Gah.Grey Carter said:
To be perfectly honest, you're missing a giant opportunity to make more Firefly yaoi jokes, what with the presence of a giant sweaty man there. With a pole. A giant pole.
And you went with the glowy things.
It was a statememt of fact. The fact of the matter is, you're going to ***** about the next strip too. And the one after that. And the one after that. And I am looking forward to it, because your page views = money for me. I don't feed trolls. They feed me.moshineko said:
Oh the game is certainly rent-worthy. Hell I bought it based on the strenght of the demo and I'm not dissapointed. Unless you're all OCD or a gameplay purist you'll enjoy it.aldowyn said:
though shall not have to collect every single doodad to advance to the next level?
and yes those that just happen to be precariously placed on top of a pit of acid with acid scorpians circling it and being so far away that you have to have freaking binoculars on your person to see it.
or where it is underneath the lava pit and the only way to access it is by finding a switch half way through the level that tells you "this switch just did something" and you have to know to backtrack all the way to the lava pit to find the lava drained.
the lava one happens more then you would think.
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and yes those that just happen to be precariously placed on top of a pit of acid with acid scorpians circling it and being so far away that you have to have freaking binoculars on your person to see it.
or where it is underneath the lava pit and the only way to access it is by finding a switch half way through the level that tells you "this switch just did something" and you have to know to backtrack all the way to the lava pit to find the lava drained.
the lava one happens more then you would think.
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Hehe, I have to say this; the comic is your best I've read so far, but this is probably the funniest thing I've seen you write.Grey Carter said:
OT: I love me some collectables, but damned if I can think of something else to add to that list. That Monkey Island bundle looks mighty tempting though...
"Thou shalt not make players recollect doodads each time you return to a level, à la Banjo Kazooie"?
That one doesn't actually happen very often though, so I don't think it's all that relevant.
The feeling is Shared.....Especially in KINGDOM HEARTS!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAGH What do you mean I can't GO back!?!? I missed a Treasure Chest!!CitySquirrel said:
Hahaha. Nope. Nice try. Been to art school, no matter how you try, your art means more to you than money. Enjoy your Egyptian river, I will imagine the cool side of my pillow to be your dead, broken, artist's heart.Grey Carter said:
Gratz, by the by, for trying to bypass the facts of the argument. Fact is, there isn't any need to traipse around grabbing every bit of energon or fairydust, or whatever the hell it was in the game. It was tossed around like used tissues on a /b/tard's floor, with plenty enough for each of the actual useful upgrades.
What Enslaved did have in limited, valuable supply, was a decent story and an attempt at character growth. Which I've yet to find in the fanboys' precious Firefly, or any of the Final Fantasy games.
And as for the mad ducats you're no doubt making from the blockbuster success of your groundbreakingly original webcomic, I'm happy to fork over the five cents my pageview nets you, in order to watch your upper lip quiver as you hold back the tears.