The Crow Coming Back to Avenge Itself

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RikSharp

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Scars Unseen said:
There was a fourth film?
unfortunately.
the crow was played by the kid from terminator 2 and the bad guys were tito ortiz and david boreanez.
 

Cormyre

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The original is a great, the sequels, well not so much (especially the pointed at teenies last one), but it does not need a remake, just tell the story of a different "Crow" and make it... *shock* GOOD!

If it does get done, hopefully nothing befalls the new shoot, but then again there isn't the Lee curse in the mix...

"it can't rain all the time"
 

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I'll take it.

The director is reasonably competent, and considering how grossly raped the franchise has been already, it can't possibly get any worse. Neither this flick nor the three shitty ones already made diminish the awesomeness of the original. What's not to like?
 

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psivamp said:
I think this is an awful idea. I don't even like J O'Barr's rehashing of the graphic novel
Wait, someone rehashed the graphic novel? A man wrote a painful, therapeutic, secretly autobiographical revenge fantasy to work the demons out of his head from having the love of his life assaulted and raped, and someone thought "You know what? I could improve this!"
It's like having someone re-write you suicide note. When they get to still be alive.

This fills me with murderous rage.
Why the shitmothering fuck would you anyone do this? Did they not remember what he did to 28 Days Later?

Why are legions of idiots systematically ruining my childhood? I thought Nightmare on Elm street was crossing the line, but this is just sick. There are millions of wonderful new IPs waiting in the wings, never to be made because cash grabs go more smoothly when you rape classics.

All this, and today I found out that someone is making a Tin Tin movie.
*Weeps quietly into bourbon glass*
 

Trogdor1138

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In an ideal world, this would never be a project that get's considered.

The film now essentially holds Brandon Lee's legacy to a lot of people, you can't fuck with that and expect people to not be annoyed.

The comic book is brilliant as well, the 1994 film is still fantastic and always managed to find new audiences to appreciate it. Why is this need- Oh, money, I keep forgetting.

I'm open to the possibility of this being a good movie, but I'm not happy about this. We already had 3 completely terrible and insulting movies come afterwards so it's about due for another attempted rape. It was inevitable this would be tapped sometime unfortunately....

If they want a franchise with great potential that never got met, get something like Highlander, which had an amazing concept that I felt never met it's potential truly and could be a lot more. I'm a fan actually wanting that to happen. Apparently they're too dumb to see good opportunities though and they'd rather piss all over already good films. What is the point if the original is already so engraved into pop culture and regarded as a modern classic?
 

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If people can't make a decent sequel, they sure as hell won't be able to make a good remake.
 

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Squilookle said:
If people can't make a decent sequel, they sure as hell won't be able to make a good remake.
This.

Brandon Lee deserves the respect that a remake of this not be made.

All the sequels were god awful, the franchise just needs to die. Just make a new damn property with some gothic avenger type character. There's no need to use the Crow name, I'd have to assume, if anything, it will make people want to avoid the movie given it's track record after the original.
 

DoctorM

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\Seriously/, go track down "The Crow: Stairway to Heaven" TV series. Mark Dacascos kicks-ass (as always) as Eric Draven. They even had a great Skull Cowboy (sadly a character cut from the original film).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166425/

Edit: Okay, or just go to Hulu which has all 22 episodes. http://www.hulu.com/the-crow-stairway-to-heaven
 

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RikSharp said:
Scars Unseen said:
There was a fourth film?
unfortunately.
the crow was played by the kid from terminator 2 and the bad guys were tito ortiz and david boreanez.
I... I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. That sounds awful just on the page.

The Crow is probably one of my favourite movies, not flawless and quite of its time I think, but I just can't see a way that they can improve on the original. I'll not be holding my breath.
 

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When are they going to realise that without Brandon Lee there will never be a good Crow after the first.

"There ain't no coming back"
 

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ChupathingyX said:
When are they going to realise that without Brandon Lee there will never be a good Crow after the first.

"There ain't no coming back"
This.

The original is still my favourite film ever. The first sequel was alright, if a little unnecessary, but everything after that was a complete abomination. Any attempt at remaking the original is absolutely guaranteed to be terrible.

About the TV series: I could swear I've seen something with that title, starring Mark Dacascos, but it wasn't a bunch of episodes... it was more like a made-for-TV movie. I can't find any record of it existing, though, so perhaps I imagined it.
 

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No.
Just no.

Until they find a way to resurrect Brandon Lee, I wouldn't like it even with the likes of Tarantino or Nolan behind it...and THEY would have the common fucking sense to leave a classic ALONE.
What's this about Quintin Tarantino having common sense about leaving classic movies and otherwise alone?
 

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RikSharp said:
Scars Unseen said:
There was a fourth film?
unfortunately.
the crow was played by the kid from terminator 2 and the bad guys were tito ortiz and david boreanez.
don't forget the goddawful travesty that Dennis Hopper contributed to what was already BEYOND garbage. and i'm not being a Brandon Lee/"only the original was worth making" asshole... THAT FILM WAS GARBAGE.
 

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level250geek said:
Is this a remake, or is it another interpretation of the source material, like Tim Burton's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was based on the Roald Dahl book directly and was not a remake of the 1970s movie Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, which just happened to be inspired by the same book?

If it's a remake, I call foul. If it's a new look at the original graphic novel (which was quite different from the movie), then I'm interested.

Either way, I liked 28 Weeks Later, so at least they picked a good director.
Yeah the only way this is even plausible as not a terrible idea is if they make this a new take on the source material, by sticking closer to the original or whatever. But the movie really doesn't need a "remake", its not so old that it looks dated and cheap compared to what they would do now or anything. There's really no way to just make the same movie again and have it be any better, especially with Brandon Lee being so closely associated with the role.

If they put some real effort and thought into it, and had integrity about the whole thing I could actually see a cool movie being made. The plot is simple enough but there's tons of room for awesome imagery and style.

But given the recent trend of pointless remakes that are not any better than the original its hard to have any hope for it. For the most part Hollywood is completely out of ideas and realizes it can still get money out of people by just showing them old movies and telling them they are new.
 

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The original crow is so deeply something I (and I'm pretty sure a lot of people) associate with [a href==http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheNineties]'the 90's'[/a] that seeing it updated would be really weird and seem really off.

level250geek said:
If it's a remake, I call foul. If it's a new look at the original graphic novel (which was quite different from the movie), then I'm interested.
Took the words out of my mouth... or letters from my... fingertips? whatever.
 

DoctorM

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Crow 4 was truly the worst sequel ever.
Crow 3 was the biggest disappointment though. Eric Mabius, Fred Ward and Kirsten Dunst. It actually stood a chance of being good, but wasn't.

Crow 2 should have been better until Miramax messed with it:
While the filmmakers and studio originally intended to create a substantially different movie to the first one - out of respect for Brandon Lee - Miramax ordered the movie to be re-edited so as to resemble the earlier one as much as possible. Tim Pope refused and he along with Goyer disowned the movie as it did not represent their vision. The fight scene between Ashe and Kali was re-shot and the film was also edited to make make it faster paced.
Bug Miramax or whoever owns it now to release a true Director's cut. In the mean time, check teh inturnets and see if you can find "The Crow: City of Angles - Second Coming" a fan reconstruction.
 

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-Zen- said:
Oh goddamnit.

The Crow was far from flawless, but it was still a damned great movie and a respectable swan song for the legendary Brandon Lee.

Leave it alone, you pricks.

The franchise has been brutally raped enough as it is. It doesn't need any more of your shit.

You want to remake a classic movie franchise that went to shit after the first entry? Continue production on that Highlander remake. Just leave The Crow the fuck alone.
Could be worse. They could remake Total Recall.

Wait....
 

DTWolfwood

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Y isn't he making some other zombie flick?! 28dayslater's rabid humans are the ones i can see causing an actual zombie apocalypse. its the most believable zombie flick to date :p

Screw the Crow, its not relevant anymore. Unless some1 gets killed in its filming... morbid as it may sound. Thats all i remember about the Crow :p
 

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MikeyW said:
-Zen- said:
Oh goddamnit.

The Crow was far from flawless, but it was still a damned great movie and a respectable swan song for the legendary Brandon Lee.

Leave it alone, you pricks.

The franchise has been brutally raped enough as it is. It doesn't need any more of your shit.

You want to remake a classic movie franchise that went to shit after the first entry? Continue production on that Highlander remake. Just leave The Crow the fuck alone.
Could be worse. They could remake Total Recall.

Wait....
This is far worse than that. Total Recall was a stupid, cheesy, badass Schwarzenegger popcorn flick. The Crow was a legitimately great film and perhaps a milestone of American cinema.

It's like comparing One Piece to Akira.