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SajuukKhar

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Eddie the head said:
Think they are saving that for DLC or just not going to touch it?
There are some theories made by the lore masters of the Bethesda forums that Jyggy was reabsorbed into the Champion of Cyrodil after he became Sheogorath despite supposedly "freeing" jyggy in the Shivering Isles MQ.

I don't remember the exact reasoning but it made sense when i read it.
 

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The way Skyrim played out, made me think the Dragonborn would become the next emp and reunite the empire. Seeing as the strongest line of rulers have been Dragonborn and depending on your actions in the DB storyline, the emperor may be dead. With the backing of the greybeards and the imperials in Skyrim you could easily march to the White tower and be crowned the next Emperor. As mush as I would like to see this and the Empire/Thalmor war, I don't think we will see it and only be able to read about it in books found in future games.

The next Elder Scrolls should go back to an Arena like area, where you have more than one country to explore.
 

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PLightstar said:
The way Skyrim played out, made me think the Dragonborn would become the next emp and reunite the empire. Seeing as the strongest line of rulers have been Dragonborn and depending on your actions in the DB storyline, the emperor may be dead. With the backing of the greybeards and the imperials in Skyrim you could easily march to the White tower and be crowned the next Emperor. As mush as I would like to see this and the Empire/Thalmor war, I don't think we will see it and only be able to read about it in books found in future games.
The Greybeards have literally 0 political pull, and The Imperials will just elect either titus Mede II's son or a member of the high counsel.
 

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They do in Skyrim, so you would have the Nords on your side, then if you lead the Empire to victory in the civil war, you would have those forces under your belt aswell. The Dragonblood in your veins would just be another claim to the throne. Along with the fact Odahviing would be on your side, with him and your shouts no-one could stand in your way. (got a bit evil dictator in my rant then)
 

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An Akaviri invasion sounds most likely, which would provide a good reason for the Psijics to come out of seclusion. That would give an excuse to totally revamp the magic system again, so it's far more likely to happen as TESVI than as an expansion. There isn't really any particular province this has to take place in, as it would affect most of them equally. Perhaps the ruins of Morrowind would be a good landing zone for the invaders, as there's not likely to be much military force available, but I'd guess one of the provinces we haven't seen much of is more likely. High Rock or Hammerfell would work well with minimal new data for the Skyrim engine, but they aren't likely to present much of a visual change from Skyrim, so in the end I'd vote for the Summerset Isles or Elsweyr unless they get covered in a Skyrim expansion first.
 

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TizzytheTormentor said:
They could have a canon ending (fallout 1+2 had canon endings and New Vegas may have one unless it s never mentioned again) Also, didn't all possible daggerfall endings happen? They could make all endings canon with clever writing. Also the current Sheogorath is the player charcter from oblivion and from dialoge, he completed the main quest (obviously) complete the dark brotherhood and thieves guild and presumably the other guilds and factions. Never mentioned much of the nerevarine's adventures outside the main questline, which house did he help? It's up to you.
-Fallout is a series that has been built on invalidating player choice in the sequel, ES is not.
-Yes all of Daggerfall's endings did happen, one of which being you were killed by Numidium and forgotten, your point?
-Actually the current Sheogorath is ASSUMED to be the player character from Oblivion. Had your character not done the Dark Brotherhood quest-line then Sheogorath is not you.
-They made the Neravarine vanish, and nuked Morrowind, to make any house you could have chosen irrelevant.
All of which do nothing to justify the Dragonborn becoming the leader of the Empire, unlike the other things mentioned, which are incredibly small and trivial, being the ruler of the empire would be a monumental deal.
 

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It can be about whatever it wants, I just want it to be HUGE. I'm looking forward to the day I get to walk all the way across Tamriel in one game. I'm looking for something the size of the TES2 except for not randomized. I'll wait ten years for it if need be. Let's do this.
Well they said they wanted to create a MMO next, and that would likely be all of Tamriel.
Oh cool. We need a WoW killer. WoW just really isn't all that friendly to new players. I tried jumping in about a year ago, and everyone I played with was just running from fetch quest to fetch quest without giving any of it any thought or stopping to let me read or even explaining to me WHY we're doing this... Just mindlessly grinding. It was obnoxious to play a game for ten hours and have no context of why we're doing what we're doing. The only people I know who love WoW and still play today have been playing for five years or more. It's just so damn hard to join the cool kids club. An Elder Scrolls MMO would be perfect.
 

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I'd like the next game to be set in Valenwood. Plenty of oppurtunities for gorgeous scenery and interesting creatures, + we don't know much about the place so they could go pretty wild story wise.
 

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I would like to see the next game either in Valenwood & Elsweyr or Black Marsh & lower Morrwind.

As for DLC of Skyrim; I'm not really sure what direction it should take...
 

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-Fallout is a series that has been built on invalidating player choice in the sequel, ES is not.
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Thats a bunch of crap, your choices are invalidated by things like the warp in the west, nerevar disappearing, and becoming Sheogorath.
Note: No matter what, you are sheogorath, they canonized alot.
 

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Akavir. Nuff said.

In-game book also points to Tosh-Raka talking about invading Tamriel.
I want to see the Akaviri themselves if they hadn't been eaten by vampire-snakes :( hopefully there are still a few left.
 

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someonehairy-ish said:
I'd like the next game to be set in Valenwood. Plenty of oppurtunities for gorgeous scenery and interesting creatures, + we don't know much about the place so they could go pretty wild story wise.
Hell yeah! Monkey people ftw!
 

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WodashGSJ said:
An Akaviri invasion sounds most likely, which would provide a good reason for the Psijics to come out of seclusion. That would give an excuse to totally revamp the magic system again, so it's far more likely to happen as TESVI than as an expansion. There isn't really any particular province this has to take place in, as it would affect most of them equally. Perhaps the ruins of Morrowind would be a good landing zone for the invaders, as there's not likely to be much military force available, but I'd guess one of the provinces we haven't seen much of is more likely. High Rock or Hammerfell would work well with minimal new data for the Skyrim engine, but they aren't likely to present much of a visual change from Skyrim, so in the end I'd vote for the Summerset Isles or Elsweyr unless they get covered in a Skyrim expansion first.
I completely forgot about the Psijic Monks. That would be a great idea. Combined with the Akaviri, it could invite a whole reversal on Skyrim's unease and prejudice towards magic - making plain warriors laughed at and mages celebrated as superior. The Akaviri have their star/light magic, which I was always interested in when exploring their ruins in Oblivion. We could get a whole new magic coming in, similar to Thu'um.

How about some sort of new Alessian character, to unite Tamriel?

TizzytheTormentor said:
Also the current Sheogorath is the player charcter from oblivion and from dialoge, he completed the main quest (obviously) complete the dark brotherhood and thieves guild and presumably the other guilds and factions. Never mentioned much of the nerevarine's adventures outside the main questline, which house did he help? It's up to you.
I really don't like that whole theory that everyone goes on about. I don't want to believe that my female Oblivion character whom I role-played as a good, pious and religious character ended up as a mad daedric prince.

I'll point out that Jyggalag himself didn't know what it meant with you taking on the title of Sheogorath. He didn't know whether to call you mortal, or whether you'd somehow become a god from this. It's my belief that your character doesn't become a Daedra simply for releasing a Daedric Prince, but rather the title of Sheogorath is now more of a king than a Daedra. As such, when your character dies, someone is newly elected as the next Sheogorath, and because they're likely mad, may delude themselves into thinking they did all your deeds from Oblivion. Not only that, but the Sheogorath we encounter is a remnant from Pelagius' mind - so perhaps, it was a memory imprint from several years previously, before we entered Shivering Isles.
 

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I hear Elsweyr, Valenwood, and the Summerset Isles being bandied around a lot. I think any of these are viable, although not so much the Summerset Isles with the Thalmor as they are now. Now, what might be interesting, and possible, for the next game... would be if they did all three of them at once. Three states? Three distinct environments? Lots of different cultures? HUGE World? Possible. Maybe they'll only do two. Probably, they won't do that. But it would allow a new direction, and I think it'd be pretty interesting. It doesn't have to be those necessarily, but a lot of interest has been expressed, so hey, why not?
 

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Hammerfell would be a very interesting and exotic contrast with Skyrim. After all that frost, The Elder Scrolls could definitely do with a bit of a thaw out.

It would probably mean a ton of new creatures too, especially for the desert regions.
 

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ardias014 said:
Thats a bunch of crap, your choices are invalidated by things like the warp in the west, nerevar disappearing, and becoming Sheogorath.
Note: No matter what, you are sheogorath, they canonized alot.
Actually the warp in the west made every possible ending true, so your ending didn't get invalidated, it was validated if anything.

Furthermore Nerevar disappearing doesn't invalidate what he did, only what he could have done.

And finally the champion of Cyrodil is only sheogorath if you want him to be.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
ardias014 said:
Thats a bunch of crap, your choices are invalidated by things like the warp in the west, nerevar disappearing, and becoming Sheogorath.
Note: No matter what, you are sheogorath, they canonized alot.
Actually the warp in the west made every possible ending true, so your ending didn't get invalidated, it was validated if anything.

Furthermore Nerevar disappearing doesn't invalidate what he did, only what he could have done.

And finally the champion of Cyrodil is only sheogorath if you want him to be.
If you validate every ending it invalidates the choice you made.

Killing the Nerevar and blowing up morrowind is a pretty definitive: Your choice doesn't matter.

In the Sheogorath quest in Skyrim if you pay attention he pretty much says hes the champion of cyrodil.
 

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ardias014 said:
If you validate every ending it invalidates the choice you made.

Killing the Nerevar and blowing up morrowind is a pretty definitive: Your choice doesn't matter.

In the Sheogorath quest in Skyrim if you pay attention he pretty much says hes the champion of cyrodil.
Wrong on every level. Validation =/= invalidation, making all endings valid does not make all ending invalid.

Nerevar didn't die......

Actually sheogorath in Skyrim makes mention of commonly known things, and things related to the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves guild. Nowhere does he specifically say I am the CoC and had your character NOT done the DB or Thieves guild quests then YOUR character is not the current sheogorath.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
ardias014 said:
If you validate every ending it invalidates the choice you made.

Killing the Nerevar and blowing up morrowind is a pretty definitive: Your choice doesn't matter.

In the Sheogorath quest in Skyrim if you pay attention he pretty much says hes the champion of cyrodil.
Wrong on every level. Validation =/= invalidation, making all endings valid does not make all ending invalid.

Nerevar didn't die......

Actually sheogorath in Skyrim makes mention of commonly known things, and things related to the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves guild. Nowhere does he specifically say I am the CoC and had your character NOT done the DB or Thieves guild quests then YOUR character is not the current sheogorath.
Sorry Nerevar went missing under shady circumstances on an expedition to akivir, which means he probably won't show up in the series again.
Validation of everything means invalidation because the choice you made doesn't mean anything because everything happened. The only games that truly validate choice are ones that actually import things from previous games like Mass Effect 2 and to some extent 3. In the ES series you can do all sorts of crap that doesn't translate into the newer games.
Also Sheo mentions that Martin Septim is his favorite emporer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z48mckXg5NA&feature=related about 1:15