The End of Sony?

[pyramid head grape]

Sony can easlly fart out a new psn in a mouth or two IMO (talking out my ass) I really don't care about playing game online anyway.

 

[Outcast107]

I know who behind all of this!..ITS STEAM! they have assume DIRECT CONTROL! over PSN!

 

[devotedsniper]

No computer system is safe from hackers, you can have the best security in the world but when a hacker wants in they'll get in, it was only a matter of time before one of the big time compaines such as sony got hacked. Soon or later M$ and nintendo will get hacked to, no point runnning off to one of the competitors in my opinion. Sony will be fine (i sure as hell am supporting them with the new phone i got made by them).

 

[lulztaco]

except that nintendo owns sega...

Wait what? Where did you hear this?

Maybe not literally... but nintendo does seem to have sega nicely in their pocket...

 

[gundamrx101]

Because this didn't happen before to the competitor.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/xbox-live-hacked-accounts-stolen/131

Sony will be fine, good day gentlemen.

 

[nipsen]

You can't make a law out of quality. Aslong as they say they put their best team on the job but simply couldn't uncover things until after the fact they're covered.

..that's what they /say/. Like I tried, vainly, to explain - how does that excuse them from the law? It doesn't.

And you're not thinking about it properly. Consider how large their database is compared to your average online shop. How many trails the hackers will have left stumbling through it. It could take months to fully asses what happened. It's not like there's a 'Tell you exactly what the hackers took' program that they can just execute and get an answer 2 minutes later.

..yes.. it's not like in the movies, you know. Systemic process, linear progression, no secret switches. Half of it is knowing the systems already, and exploiting known ways to exploit bad architecture. Finding ways around systems typically means finding weaknesses and then planning something on beforehand - if it doesn't work, back to the drawing board. It sure would be awesome if hacking something looked like navigating the ether as a technomage, or something. But it doesn't.

The flip-side to that, is designing a database well. This includes knowing which parts are accessible with what privileges and from where. And yes, it would normally take you three seconds to figure out what parts of a database would be affected. Because you would know what parts of the system would be accessible, and how the system was breached, etc.

 

[Aralous]

If BP can destroy an entire regional economy and get away with it then Sony should be just fine.

 

[badgersprite]

Sony isn't going anywhere. They're just not doing as well as they would have been had this never happened and it will probably take a little time for them to recover. This isn't the end of the world, it's just kind of what happens in a market society. Sometimes business do well, sometimes they have a disaster and have to recoup some losses, but a giant of this size is invariably going to bounce back.

 

[Serving UpSmiles]

Um, last time I checked Sony didn't rely on PS3 sales exclusively. They make a lot of products.

No, this isn't the end of Sony or the Playstation brand. If Microsoft was able to keep the xbox 360 going strong even after all the bullshit that happened with the red ring of death (2 of my consoles died because of it), Sony can get through this.

Everyone seems to have forgotten the cluster fuck that was the first generation of 360's.

But didn't that just boost 360 sales in the end?

 

[Custard_Angel]

PS3 is only one product from Sony. It's a big corporation and only a small amount is dedicated to gaming.

If this big class action gains momentum and Sony loses out, its entirely possible that Sony could pull the plug on the entire division.

Goodbye Sony Entertainment.

 

[Chelsea O'shea]

i see people comparing the sony thing with 360's red ring..it isn't the same,the red ring didn't lose peoples CC's and put them at risk of identity theft.

 

[emeraldrafael]

SONY isnt really hurt, and will recover.

SONY ENTERTAINMENT OF AMERICA (or whatever its called) has taken a drastic hit, but I suspect will recover. Sony has more then enough fans, and consideration = speculation =/= certainty. I could speculate or consider that 2+2=5, but thats obviously not certain.

So yeah, they'll be fine. They'll strengthen security, they'll release a better system, and all will be well, and anyone who hasnt bothered to do anything preventitive at this point fully deserves whatever woes fall upon them.

 

[Vanbael]

On the Battleship Sony:
Sailor: CAPTAIN! We just got hit!
Captain: What hit us?
Sailor: A bullet! It was a big one!
Captain: How big sailor?
Sailor: A 9mm sir!

This is what I see from this. Sony is right now taking out the welder and is plugging that leak. Seriously guys, do you know what Sony does completely? Let me tell you what Sony sells off the top of my head:
PS3
TV
Radio
Headphones
Sound Systems
Stereos
Batteries
Computers
Software
Films
Music

Sony kind of has their shit sorted out. Now if you excuse me, I have to hit the head.

 

[Echo136]

Dont be such a fatalist. This is hardly the end of Sony.

 

[DoctorPhil]

There already was a thread about this. This was my theory, theoretically speaking of course.

If Sony's games department disappears (wich I really really doubt will happen). I would predict that the majority of western gamers and third party developers will move to the XBox, while the Japanese third parties and gamers will switch to Nintendo. Microsoft would seize the western style game market and Nintendo would get eastern style games. For example, for western FPS, you'd buy a microsoft console, for JRPGs you'd buy the Nintendo one. There'd be little competition since western and eastern style games are kinda different markets. There'd basicaly be two monopolies. This is all in theory though, as Sony's not giving up.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Why are people even considering the possibility that Sony will fail because of this? Perhaps their gaming division, but not Sony as a whole.

Let's consider this scenario:

The same shit that happened to Sony happens to Xbox Live. Will Microsoft fail? No. Fuck no. Fuck no with a capital "FUCK".

Quit postulating about Sony as a company going under because of this. That just ain't happening.

 

[Leoofmoon]

[HEADING=1]APPLE[/HEADING]

oh god, thats a scary thought.

How would that be scary? Knowing Apple they would make it the ultimate system! 1080p, Full iTunes support, Surround capable, Blu-ray.[sub]Thinking of this is making me excited[sub] and slightly aroused...[/sub][/sub] And no Shitty motion controls. They know better.

We all know the PC is the best. ever. No console can match the computer.

I beg to differ

And why would that be?

Just becase a PC has some good games its mainly a indi market, but games on Consoles do run smoother without needing a update, defrag or other matince for the player to do. PC games are great but yet the only thing that iv seen(for right now im geting a new laptop monday) was Crysis but that was more of a trile by fire if the PC didnt melt its insides

No, the market has never been better. Consoles rely on the AAA market, but the PC varies greatly. Steam itself only multiplied the success and variety tenfold.

Yeah but thats the thing the games you hear of are AAA titles on Pc too the others are indey games or some B game a company sliped out secretly

Yet AAA games are dying. It wont be long before its completely unsustainable.

The main reason AA games are dieing is because gameing companys like Actovion is keeping its in the safe boundreys of puting alot of money into the same game they made 10 times with updated grafics and bla bla bla atlest bunjie told there story stoped and is now starting something new and epic is doing the same with people can fly with the game bullet storm and there own game Gears is finley finishing up with the 3rd game.

 

[tjs09]

@OP: Grab a piece of carboard, scrawl THE END IS NIGH across it and head to the streets!

[HEADING=1]APPLE[/HEADING]

oh god, thats a scary thought.

How would that be scary? Knowing Apple they would make it the ultimate system! 1080p, Full iTunes support, Surround capable, Blu-ray.[sub]Thinking of this is making me excited[sub] and slightly aroused...[/sub][/sub] And no Shitty motion controls. They know better.

I.... but!....

THE RAGE.... IT'S ASSUMING CONTROL!

Two Things:
1. I am sooo late XD
2. I just bought a PS3 O.O

OT: Sony will recover, if they don't you know who gets back in the game?

Sega

I like the way you think. I don't really agree, but I really like it.

Sega and Apple can get together and make a SUPERCONSOLE!

Just imagine playing all your favorite Sega franchises [sub]Panser Dragoon! Shenmue! Sonic! JET SET RADIO![/sub] on the greatest machine ever built!

PS- This is my face right now: X_X. I have fainted in excitement.

[sub]I know this is a pipe dream and has almost no chance in hell of happening, but still..[/sub]

Nah, I dislike Apple. Their products are usually vastly over-priced, and not really as powerful as they could be. Compared to a custom-built machine.

Maybe, but peep this, daddy-o! When we cop one of those hypothetical lean, mean, gaming machines we'll be hip! cool! original! We can grow ironic beards! Take that shit to Starbucks and everyone'll know we're too cool for preschool!
We can even use all the phrases from the Mac Owner's Handbook:

"My console won't get a virus"
"Do you have a vegan-only menu?"
"Do you have any jeans skinnier than this?"
"My head appears to have inflated to monstrous proportions, call an ambulance!"

I Can't Wait!

 

[ThongBonerstorm]

I know you'll always be able to buy a Sony TV, or microwave, or robot hooker, the general question was is this the end of Sony (making the Playstation and being a Juggernaut)? The PSN is a clusterfuck, if it comes back, will anyone trust it?

and a 24Billion loss is quite a bit for ONE facet of a company, would it be totally out of left field to shut it down rather than poor more work and cash into fixing it?

 

[tjs09]

@OP: Grab a piece of carboard, scrawl THE END IS NIGH across it and head to the streets!

[HEADING=1]APPLE[/HEADING]

oh god, thats a scary thought.

How would that be scary? Knowing Apple they would make it the ultimate system! 1080p, Full iTunes support, Surround capable, Blu-ray.[sub]Thinking of this is making me excited[sub] and slightly aroused...[/sub][/sub] And no Shitty motion controls. They know better.

I.... but!....

THE RAGE.... IT'S ASSUMING CONTROL!

Two Things:
1. I am sooo late XD
2. I just bought a PS3 O.O

OT: Sony will recover, if they don't you know who gets back in the game?

Sega

I like the way you think. I don't really agree, but I really like it.

Sega and Apple can get together and make a SUPERCONSOLE!

Just imagine playing all your favorite Sega franchises [sub]Panser Dragoon! Shenmue! Sonic! JET SET RADIO![/sub] on the greatest machine ever built!

PS- This is my face right now: X_X. I have fainted in excitement.

[sub]I know this is a pipe dream and has almost no chance in hell of happening, but still..[/sub]

Nah, I dislike Apple. Their products are usually vastly over-priced, and not really as powerful as they could be. Compared to a custom-built machine.

Maybe, but peep this, daddy-o! When we cop one of those hypothetical lean, mean, gaming machines we'll be hip! cool! original! We can grow ironic beards! Take that shit to Starbucks and everyone'll know we're too cool for preschool!
We can even use all the phrases from the Mac Owner's Handbook:

"My console won't get a virus"
"Do you have a vegan-only menu?"
"Do you have any jeans skinnier than this?"
"My head appears to have inflated to monstrous proportions, call an ambulance!"

I Can't Wait!

I laughed, well played.

I wonder whether an Apple console would be successful? I could imagine a flop.

I've been trying to find a clever way if changing 'ego' to 'iGo', but it's remained consistently lame.

I don't know, they'd definitely have the edge in the features category, but third-party support is the most important aspect of a new console, and I doubt many studios would drop everything too produce AAA titles on a console they have no prior experience with.

Then again, this whole thing depends on Sony failing.

Also, I just thought of iiGo, would that work?